so green energy/going green in general. for or against?

I have made a lot of threads today huh? Like 3 of them.

Anyways are you for or against finding a green energy solution and just going green in general? Why do you hold this position?

Personally I hope we go green sooner rather than later because it will mean we will be pushing forward with technology. Also because I don't like the fact that we are hurting the environment currently with the way things are.

so are you for or against the green movement?

Fact: 99% of our power comes from sources that will run out.

I'd say we better be looking for something else.

Completely for. Even if Global Climate Change isn't being driven by us, the benefits FAR outweigh the cons. Plus, we inevitably have to transition anyways, best to start now while we still have fossil fuels to use.

Fact: 99% of our power comes from sources that will run out.

I'd say we better be looking for something else.

789shadow

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Fact: 99% of our power comes from sources that will run out.

I'd say we better be looking for something else.

Serraph105

I wasn't trying to be accurate, just trying to make a point. :P

I do, as even if you deny global warming/climate change you can't deny putting tons of dirty/toxic gas into the air is not good for the environment.

I don't want the worlds air supply to become as dirty and fowl as LA's.

I suppose going green is a good thing, but until the rest of world decides to jump on the band wagon, our small contribution isn't going to make that much of a difference.

Fact: 99% of our power comes from sources that will run out.

I'd say we better be looking for something else.

I suppose going green is a good thing, but until the rest of world decides to jump on the band wagon, our small contribution isn't going to make that much of a difference.

joseph_mach

Unfortunately most people have that same mindset.

Fact: 99% of our power comes from sources that will run out.

I'd say we better be looking for something else.

I have seen what man has wrought on this planet between smog and other stuff that has polluted the planet. While moving away from fossil fuels and such, we need to move forward in the field of energy from other sources besides coal and natural gas (cleaner than coal). We do need more nuclear power plants on that end, even though there is a waste byproduct, the radiation aspect was always with the base materials. We need to find other ways to power our vehicles too. Devlopment of alternative fuels is a must or better yet, true electrical vehicles.

Part of the going green is the need for developers to stop with the suburban sprawl type of communities that have been der rigueur for the past 60 years. I admire the way Europeans still build communites that feature living over places of business or within walking distance so a car is not needed. The few places here in the States that do this, the housing is not affordable for those who would wish to live in such places (in Edmonton, a friend called such an area Yuppie Heaven or something to that effect).

More companies need to make their products more energy efficient so demand on electicity drops. There is so much that can be done, yet no one wants to do more.

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I suppose going green is a good thing, but until the rest of world decides to jump on the band wagon, our small contribution isn't going to make that much of a difference.

MystikFollower

Unfortunately most people have that same mindset.

Sad, but it's true. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but really, not everyone in the States is going to go green, so that limits our contribution. Now, add the other billions of people on the Earth not doing anything to help go green, and you can see why most people tend to think that way. Maybe someday the planet as a whole will come together and really do something to help save our resources. But until then, what we're doing now isn't going to turn things around.

How are we hurting the environment?

I've actually solved all of our power needs so we don't need to worry anymore. I built a large underground system with hamsters and running wheels. It should be powering the country once I find enough hamsters.ferrari2001

[QUOTE="joseph_mach"]

I suppose going green is a good thing, but until the rest of world decides to jump on the band wagon, our small contribution isn't going to make that much of a difference.

MystikFollower

Unfortunately most people have that same mindset.

How are we hurting the enviornment?

LOXO7

Well since "going green" is obviously another socialist conspiracy....

[spoiler] I'm for. [/spoiler]

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How are we hurting the enviornment?

nocoolnamejim

That works also. :P

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"] I've actually solved all of our power needs so we don't need to worry anymore. I built a large underground system with hamsters and running wheels. It should be powering the country once I find enough hamsters.Wilfred_Owen

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How are we hurting the enviornment?

nocoolnamejim

How are we hurting the enviornment?

LOXO7

well they say a picture is worth a thousand words

known as the great pacific garbage patch

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How are we hurting the enviornment?

LOXO7

I would "go green" if they would actually find a nice way of "living green" instead of the major pains that you will have using the "green energy" no one wants to use a solar energy car because no one would like going extremely slow and then having to recharge the car's battery (which last like 8 hours) and no one wants to use a "solar water heater" because they are extremely unnefective on cold days...the days where you need a nice hot shower...lightleggy

Actually, solar water heaters are very efficient, even on the coldest of days. People have been building or using them for 30+ years. I wish I had a solar water heater, but living in an apartment, I can't change to one.

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[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"] One of these days I'm going to remember to actually download and add to my photobucket account that Joker "Not Sure If Serious" picture that gets so much air time on these forums. :)nocoolnamejim

I think the "Green Movement" is idiotic.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="LOXO7"] No really. I'm not sure if people that spend time talking on Internet forums know what the environment is. They are so connected and attached to... stuff.

LOXO7

here is a couple more just for the heck of it

As far as I'm concerned, "green" energy would be best used as a supplementary/secondary source of energy to nuclear power.

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]Well environment is the wrong word haha, but I wasn't thinking about that before. In a different way. No that's not what I'm saying. We are part of our environment. I don't think we are at the point where we are hurting ourselves. Hmm Are others hurting for our success? Yes. But that's the name of the game isn't it?

nocoolnamejim

:| I thought you were going to tell me something different. Imagine. I'm all for using less energy as possible and still have a fun time at living. But imagine! I think we underestimate natures capabilities to adapt. And from what I see your words make me assume that humans are the all powerful beings in the world. Nature is relentless. Wildlife is relentless. I mean we should look out for ourselves in the future because Earth is just so big. But it seems that you are saying we have no more room to expand, which is of course false.

Against, just because environmentalists are damn annoying.

I have a green edition hard drive. :D

Against, just because environmentalists are damn annoying.

Radiatedrich91

Well at least you have a valid reason.. :roll:

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Against, just because environmentalists are damn annoying.

MystikFollower

Well at least you have a valid reason.. :roll:

I know right.

This is my enviornment.

Against, just because environmentalists are damn annoying.

Radiatedrich91

it's like the hippy movement, except its about actual work and expanding technology rather than sitting around and getting high. Granted those same hippies pushed growing you're own food naturally, but still.

For, but I am against it being FORCED on us.

For, but I am against it being FORCED on us.

airshocker

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Against, just because environmentalists are damn annoying.

Serraph105

it's like the hippy movement, except its about actual work and expanding technology rather than sitting around and getting high. Granted those same hippies pushed growing you're own food naturally, but still.

Hippies suck too.

BTW I highly doubt Al Gore's top priority is doing actual work and expanding technology for the betterment of mankind.

Yes. We need to cover the state of California with windmills, tomorrow.

against green politics and for renewable energy.surrealnumber5

^ This is probably the most intelligent post on here so far.

Green energy, becoming more sustainable and moving away from a one-use society is fine, but greenpeace is annoying.