So I found an egg.... Help is appreciated.

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#1 dk00111
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I spotted a bird making a nest in the corner of our gutter the other day, and it laid eggs sometime after. Well today it started raining really hard, and although it got through the first hour or so, I noticed about half an hour ago that it had jumped on to the edge of the gutter, no longer on its nest. I looked around to see if its eggs had fell down throught the drainage of the gutter, and surely enough I found an egg. I brought it inside and saw that it was cracked, but from looking through the crack, I could see movement inside. Right now I just have it laying on some tissues under a lamp. Any ideas on what I should do to keep it alive?

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Only way it would survive is with its mother. Try to put it back in the nest I guess, although the mother likely wouldn't accept it anymore. In that case, eggs benedict!

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Start walking while holding the egg, with luck a Pokemon will be born! :D

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Quoted from Yahoo answers on a similar situation:

Is the egg still warm? Is the bird still alive?

How deep is the crack?

If there is a chance that the chick is still alive, seal the crack up with clear nailpolish, and put it in an incubator.

If there is no incubator, put it in a brown lunch bag with some paper shreds on the bottom, put it under a lamp and turn it every few hours.

Was it hatching?

If it looks like it is pipping, then leave that area alone but seal the rest off.

Don't pull the chick out of the shell, nature is very picky. If the yolksack is exposed it is a goner.

I am not trying to be funny with the nailpolish.

The guy after me has a good suggestion. I personally would seal it up (except where you can see a little beak-pip-puncture crack) and put it back in the nest.

If you decide to keep it and it hatches, use kaytee exact handfeeding formula, as directed.
It is a judgement call.

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You know what to do. . .

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#6 dk00111
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Yeah the cracks are pretty deep and big... I don't think it's gonna make it.

Here are some pictures, sorry they're blurry my phone is my only cameral at the moment.2

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Looks like a goner though I won't say that for certain. You could try visiting your local vet and talk to them, bring the egg with you. Maybe they can help it.
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#8 MystikFollower
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Yeah the cracks are pretty deep and big... I don't think it's gonna make it.

Here are some pictures, sorry they're blurry my phone is my only cameral at the moment.2

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dk00111

Oh yeah, that looks pretty grim to be honest... I'd say definitely take it to a vet and see if they can keep it in an incubator until it's born. I don't think nail polish will work on that big of cracks.

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You better crack it open all the way to make sure something is still in there. For all you know it could be an empty egg.
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You better crack it open all the way to make sure something is still in there. For all you know it could be an empty egg.Dylan_11

He said he saw movement through the space in the crack, so the birdy is still alive for now.

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#11 mattbbpl
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It needs the kind of love and attention that only a mother can provide.

Or better yet, a 60 watt bulb.

Seriously though, it doesn't look good for the young hatchling. Sorry :(
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even if it was to hatch the bird has to be fed around the clock day and night. you will never be able to do it. sorry

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Be very careful, it could be the last of its kind. call a ranger in your area and call a zoo. the ranger, along with his battalion or division,will stand guard over the egg and kill anyone that crosses his imaginary line while the zoologist pokes and prods it. the fate of the world may be in your hands! D: ~

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Go to your kitchen Grab a pan Start your stove Put pan, with egg yoke inside on the stove ENJOY
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#15 dk00111
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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]You better crack it open all the way to make sure something is still in there. For all you know it could be an empty egg.MystikFollower

He said he saw movement through the space in the crack, so the birdy is still alive for now.

Yeah, it's still moving... If anything the movement has actually increased since I first found it.[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]Go to your kitchen Grab a pan Start your stove Put pan, with egg yoke inside on the stove ENJOY

There's no yolk the chick has developed (whether partially or fully though, I don't know). :P
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]Go to your kitchen Grab a pan Start your stove Put pan, with egg yoke inside on the stove ENJOYdk00111
There's no yolk the chick has developed (whether partially or fully though, I don't know). :P

So... 8)

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[QUOTE="dk00111"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]Go to your kitchen Grab a pan Start your stove Put pan, with egg yoke inside on the stove ENJOYimaps3fanboy

There's no yolk the chick has developed (whether partially or fully though, I don't know). :P

So... 8)

:lol: LMFAO
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[QUOTE="dk00111"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]Go to your kitchen Grab a pan Start your stove Put pan, with egg yoke inside on the stove ENJOYimaps3fanboy

There's no yolk the chick has developed (whether partially or fully though, I don't know). :P

So... 8)

Whether the yolk is there or not makes a difference. Fertilized or un-fertilized. The difference is scrambled eggs or balut. Which would you rather eat?

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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

[QUOTE="dk00111"] There's no yolk the chick has developed (whether partially or fully though, I don't know). :Psogni_belli

So... 8)

Whether the yolk is there or not makes a difference. Fertilized or un-fertilized. The difference is scrambled eggs or balut. Which would you rather eat?

Which ever is more manly
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Eggs florentine. :P

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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

[QUOTE="dk00111"] There's no yolk the chick has developed (whether partially or fully though, I don't know). :Pauron_16

So... 8)

:lol: LMFAO

So a stove would obviously be a bad choice... That's why I'm grilling it on a toothpick. Any suggestions for seasoning? On a more serious note, I think I saw the head through the crack, and it's not fully developed. The beak is still soft. :(
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Those cracks are pretty bad. I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't make it. :(
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[QUOTE="auron_16"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

So... 8)

dk00111

:lol: LMFAO

So a stove would obviously be a bad choice... That's why I'm grilling it on a toothpick. Any suggestions for seasoning? On a more serious note, I think I saw the head through the crack, and it's not fully developed. The beak is still soft. :(

K. go ahead and rip the beak off.. ground it up.. use it as seasoning...win

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Yeah, the chick is nowhere near developed. The egg shell is starting to fall apart thanks to its nonstop movement, so I can see it alot better. The beak looks like a black dot, the skin is clear so I can see the brain. It looks more like a half worm-half bird mutant than anything else...
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Yeah, the chick is nowhere near developed. The egg shell is starting to fall apart thanks to its nonstop movement, so I can see it alot better. The beak looks like a black dot, the skin is clear so I can see the brain. It looks more like a half worm-half bird mutant than anything else... dk00111
Sounds both gross and intriguing. :o Take pics and post them!
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[QUOTE="dk00111"]Yeah, the chick is nowhere near developed. The egg shell is starting to fall apart thanks to its nonstop movement, so I can see it alot better. The beak looks like a black dot, the skin is clear so I can see the brain. It looks more like a half worm-half bird mutant than anything else... megagene

Sounds both gross and intriguing. :o

Take pics and post them!



Upon realizing that the bird has no chance of living, I decided to take the shell apart. To my surprise, I didn't find a bird in it, but instead a good 3 or 4 worms. Pretty much I've been wasting my time taking care of the egg and keeping it warm in order to raise worms. :| Now I threw out the egg before I read your comment, so I didn't take any pictures. But the worms looked almost identical to this, just alot smaller.
http://z.about.com/w/experts/Entomology-Study-Bugs-665/2008/05/worm_2.jpg

When the crack was relatively small, I could only see the head of one worm and the bodies of the two other ones. I thought the dark tip was the beak, and the other two worms were the wings.

Yeah I feel pretty stupid. XD

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i found an egg once at my grandmom's house years ago. i wanted to take care of it but my brother thought it would be a good idea to warm it but sitting on it. the egg cracked everywhere :cry:

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[QUOTE="megagene"][QUOTE="dk00111"]Yeah, the chick is nowhere near developed. The egg shell is starting to fall apart thanks to its nonstop movement, so I can see it alot better. The beak looks like a black dot, the skin is clear so I can see the brain. It looks more like a half worm-half bird mutant than anything else... dk00111


Sounds both gross and intriguing. :o

Take pics and post them!



Upon realizing that the bird has no chance of living, I decided to take the shell apart. To my surprise, I didn't find a bird in it, but instead a good 3 or 4 worms. Pretty much I've been wasting my time taking care of the egg and keeping it warm in order to raise worms. :| Now I threw out the egg before I read your comment, so I didn't take any pictures. But the worms looked almost identical to this, just alot smaller.
http://z.about.com/w/experts/Entomology-Study-Bugs-665/2008/05/worm_2.jpg

When the crack was relatively small, I could only see the head of one worm and the bodies of the two other ones. I thought the dark tip was the beak, and the other two worms were the wings.

Yeah I feel pretty stupid. XD

you...umm... should've eaten em

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[QUOTE="megagene"][QUOTE="dk00111"]Yeah, the chick is nowhere near developed. The egg shell is starting to fall apart thanks to its nonstop movement, so I can see it alot better. The beak looks like a black dot, the skin is clear so I can see the brain. It looks more like a half worm-half bird mutant than anything else... dk00111


Sounds both gross and intriguing. :o

Take pics and post them!



Upon realizing that the bird has no chance of living, I decided to take the shell apart. To my surprise, I didn't find a bird in it, but instead a good 3 or 4 worms. Pretty much I've been wasting my time taking care of the egg and keeping it warm in order to raise worms. :| Now I threw out the egg before I read your comment, so I didn't take any pictures. But the worms looked almost identical to this, just alot smaller.
http://z.about.com/w/experts/Entomology-Study-Bugs-665/2008/05/worm_2.jpg

When the crack was relatively small, I could only see the head of one worm and the bodies of the two other ones. I thought the dark tip was the beak, and the other two worms were the wings.

Yeah I feel pretty stupid. XD

Now we know why the mother threw it away.

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[QUOTE="dk00111"]

[QUOTE="megagene"]
Sounds both gross and intriguing. :o

Take pics and post them! Dylan_11



Upon realizing that the bird has no chance of living, I decided to take the shell apart. To my surprise, I didn't find a bird in it, but instead a good 3 or 4 worms. Pretty much I've been wasting my time taking care of the egg and keeping it warm in order to raise worms. :| Now I threw out the egg before I read your comment, so I didn't take any pictures. But the worms looked almost identical to this, just alot smaller.
http://z.about.com/w/experts/Entomology-Study-Bugs-665/2008/05/worm_2.jpg

When the crack was relatively small, I could only see the head of one worm and the bodies of the two other ones. I thought the dark tip was the beak, and the other two worms were the wings.

Yeah I feel pretty stupid. XD

Now we know why the mother threw it away.

If it knew there were worms inside, she would have probably ate them :P

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Start walking while holding the egg, with luck a Pokemon will be born! :D

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hahahaha never know it might

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I spotted a bird making a nest in the corner of our gutter the other day, and it laid eggs sometime after. Well today it started raining really hard, and although it got through the first hour or so, I noticed about half an hour ago that it had jumped on to the edge of the gutter, no longer on its nest. I looked around to see if its eggs had fell down throught the drainage of the gutter, and surely enough I found an egg. I brought it inside and saw that it was cracked, but from looking through the crack, I could see movement inside. Right now I just have it laying on some tissues under a lamp. Any ideas on what I should do to keep it alive?

dk00111

If it's cracked, then chances are that the bird is screwed. Unless that egg was going to hatch within the next couple of hours anyway, that crack is a death sentence.

My advice is to feed it to a stray cat, or something. That's better than letting it go to waste.

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[QUOTE="dk00111"]

I spotted a bird making a nest in the corner of our gutter the other day, and it laid eggs sometime after. Well today it started raining really hard, and although it got through the first hour or so, I noticed about half an hour ago that it had jumped on to the edge of the gutter, no longer on its nest. I looked around to see if its eggs had fell down throught the drainage of the gutter, and surely enough I found an egg. I brought it inside and saw that it was cracked, but from looking through the crack, I could see movement inside. Right now I just have it laying on some tissues under a lamp. Any ideas on what I should do to keep it alive?

MrGeezer

If it's cracked, then chances are that the bird is screwed. Unless that egg was going to hatch within the next couple of hours anyway, that crack is a death sentence.

My advice is to feed it to a stray cat, or something. That's better than letting it go to waste.

You should read the whole thread through. There were "developments" lol.
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Took you long enough! Easter was some time ago my friend.:P

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Well you could give the chick a proper burial.

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#37 MrGeezer
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Try to put it back in the nest I guess, although the mother likely wouldn't accept it anymore.

F1_2004

I've often heard that if you touch either an egg or a baby bird, that the mother won't accept it any more since it has the stink of humans.

And to be honest, I am VERY skeptical about that. I don't buy it. I think it's an urban myth. If there was any kind of basis in that (at least for most birds), then it's doubtful that the cuckoo bird could exist. Cuckoo birds have their whole survival strategy around finding the nest of another species of bird, kicking an egg out of the nest, and then laying an egg in its place. The cuckoo egg looks noithing like the other eggs, but the mother of the other eggs still hatches it. The baby looks nothing like the other babies, and proceeds to murder the other babies until the invader is the only baby in the nest. And then, even when the baby is twice the freaking size of the mother, the mother still barfs into its mouth as if she doesn't realize that she's raising a monster.

And the thing is, that wouldn't happen if the mother bird had any idea. We're talking about a bird being tricked into raising a completely different species of bird, and this all could have been stopped if the mother was able to recognize that the cuckoo egg/baby wasn't her own egg/baby.

When people say "don't touch it, or the mom will abandon it", I think that people are VASTLY overestimating the ability of birds to even know what their own ****ing eggs look/smell like.

But then look at it from a different perspective. I've known people who raised certain birds (ducks/chickens/geese/parakeets). Often these people HAVE touch either the eggs or the babies, and I have never ONCE seen a case of the mother abandoning the egg/baby. Even in cases where the mother can clearly SEE a person touching the egg/baby, the bird still accepted the egg/baby after the human left it alone. Hell, I once saw a duck and a goose share THE SAME NEST. Somehow, the goose and the duck laid eggs in the nest, and BOTH of them started incubating ALL of the eggs. Here's how it worked. The goose would sit, and the duck would stand around upset because there's a ****ing goose sitting on its nest. Eventually though, the goose would have to leave in order to eat. At which point the duck would sit and incubate goose eggs. At which point the goose would later come back, see a duck sitting on its eggs, and get EXTREMELY pissed off. But the bottom line is that these were two completely different species and they couldn't even decide who the NEST belonged to, let alone an egg. They look into they nest, and all that either of them sees is "lots of eggs, and I guess they must be mine". If you happen to have a nesting chicken and a nesting duck, and then completely switch out one egg, here's what I expect...that if the swapped duck egg hatches, that it's going to get raised as a chicken, and vice versa.

Of course, I'm not saying that that applies to ALL birds, but I think it applies to LOTS. And when it comes to the birds that are pretty good at recognizing who their babies are, I suspect that they are good enough at recognizing who their babies are that they won't simply kill their own baby simply because you touched it. When it comes to the "don't touch an egg/baby or else the mom will abandon it", I strongly suspect that this is like the whole "the average person swallows ten spiders during their lifetimes, in their sleep". It sounds like something that someone just happened to convincingly say, and then suddenly everyone started believing it. And I also suspect that if you ever see a fallen egg or baby, and know which nest it came from, that the best thing you can do is to put it back into the nest. I seriously doubt that most birds actually give a ****.

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#38 MrGeezer
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You should read the whole thread through. There were "developments" lol. dk00111

Yeah, I saw.

And this also sort of supports my post. I don't know what the "worms" were, but if THAT is what was in the egg, then I strongly suspect that the egg was cracked LONG before it got washed into the gutter. And that the mom STILL ended up sitting on a cracked egg that was full of "worms", because the mom was too stupid to know that the egg was garbage.

And if a bird can sit on an egg that's in THAT bad of a shape, then I strongly doubt that most birds will throw away their own eggs just because you picked it up and put it back into the nest.

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#39 dk00111
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Yeah, that could be the case, since it would take while for worms to get into the egg. The mother probably stepped on it or something. Now, ever since this morning I haven't seen the mother come back to its nest. Out of curiosity, I went to see what's left of the nest. To my surprise, I found two eggs laying there. Is there any chance they can hatch if they haven't been kept warm for a good 8 hours?
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#40 dk00111
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Actually I went back outside and saw the mom standing on top of our garage, but it's not in the nest.