........and i am dead serious, i think the film has a point, i think we should start a revolution and live life without the controls of the government or the authorities, whos with me?
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........and i am dead serious, i think the film has a point, i think we should start a revolution and live life without the controls of the government or the authorities, whos with me?
Ever hear of picture-in-picture?you just saw apocalypse now and one minute later you saw fight club...
trololol
_R34LiTY_
[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]Ever hear of picture-in-picture? There is no possible way that you can fully understand the concepts of two movies(to the best of your ability) by watching them in PIPyou just saw apocalypse now and one minute later you saw fight club...
trololol
dodgerblue13
[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]Ever hear of picture-in-picture?you just saw apocalypse now and one minute later you saw fight club...
trololol
dodgerblue13
I guess it could work. One eye set on one movie while the other on the other. Then again, wouldn't that leave you like this
[QUOTE="dodgerblue13"][QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]Ever hear of picture-in-picture? There is no possible way that you can fully understand the concepts of two movies(to the best of your ability) by watching them in PIP Ever hear of sarcasm?you just saw apocalypse now and one minute later you saw fight club...
trololol
-Big_Red-
the government wants you to think that you can set out a revolution..there is no escape from their control.. :?
........and i am dead serious, i think the film has a point, i think we should start a revolution and live life without the controls of the government or the authorities, whos with me?
HailedJohnDman
So, the fact that the person that comes to the conclusions that you've mentioned during the movie later turns out to be psychotic has no effect on your opinion?
And Fight Club is actually one of the more sane books he's written...I do not align my opinions with Chuck Palahniuk, he is one crazy dude.
subyman
LMAO
I always love it when someone sees Fight Club and has their mind so totally blown and flips s***.
Don't come crying back to the government when you need something. Fending for yourself is s***. Its why we evolved past the point of hunting-and-gathering and built civilizations.
........and i am dead serious, i think the film has a point, i think we should start a revolution and live life without the controls of the government or the authorities, whos with me?
HailedJohnDman
I think you missed the point.
Tyler Durden and his followers were ****ing losers and were absolutely poirtrayed as such. It's absolutely no mistake that Edward Norton's character state at one point, ""I'm a 28 year old boy". That's what these people were. Children masquerading as adults. They were drawn into fight club because it offered an alternative to their alternate drone-like existences. But Fight Club was no better. They all became drones united in conformity which was dressed up under the guise of anti-conformity. They started out as slaves to the workforce, and ended up as slaves to the ideologies of the fight club.
I don't say this often, but you ABSOLUTELY seemed to have missed the point. Fight Club was a BAD thing. The viewer is not supposed to agree with their methods or their ideologies. Tyler Durden was the goddamned VILLAIN.
Watching that movie makes me wonder why I'm attracted to Helena Bonham Carter.
She's so unattractive... yet sexy in every possible way.
Watching that movie makes me wonder why I'm attracted to Helena Bonham Carter.
She's so unattractive... yet sexy in every possible way.
no_more_fayth
I completely agree with you. There was just something about her trashiness..... That just... Wow.... Made her very attractive.
Am I the only person who watched that movie and thought, "Hey, that movie wasn't too bad", Instead of "WOW! That movie has just changed my entire way of thinking." lol
Am I the only person who watched that movie and thought, "Hey, that movie wasn't too bad", Instead of "WOW! That movie has just changed my entire way of thinking." lol
david_critic
Not at all, Fight Club was an entertaining film, but the way people describe it you would think it's the best thing that ever happened to cinema.
[QUOTE="david_critic"]
Am I the only person who watched that movie and thought, "Hey, that movie wasn't too bad", Instead of "WOW! That movie has just changed my entire way of thinking." lol
Not at all, Fight Club was an entertaining film, but the way people describe it you would think it's the best thing that ever happened to cinema.
Exactly. I've never had a movie change the way I feel or who I am, I don't view movies in that way, I watch a movie to have fun. For example, that movie "There Will Be Blood", everywhere I looked all I kept finding was critics and people saying how mindblowing it was. I couldn't wrap my head around it.The very notion that every man has some primitive, raging caveman inside him that wants to beat people up and get beaten up for no reason made me laugh. Good movie, but christ was it'spoint lol-worthy.
Verge_6
I don't think that was its point at all. Watch the movie again and you'll notice that a hell of a lot of men in the movie were repulsed by the actions of the Fight Club members.
Furthermore, you'll notice that one thing that Tyler Durdern consistently talks about is "hitting bottom". So it's no surprise that the love interest is Marla Singer...a chain-smoking pill-popping laundry-stealing sometimes-suicidal woman who walks into traffic and also gets a thrill out of attending support groups. It's absolutely not a "man thing". Marla Singer seems to sort of be trying to "hit bottom" as well.
And finally, don't forget Tyler Durden's speech about how their "Great War" was with their lives. Notice him railing against consumerism and the establishment. Consider this anecdote...
"So my dad tells me, 'Go to college'. I went to college. Then I asked my dad, 'What now?' So he says, get a job.' Then I got a job and I asked my dad, 'What now?' He says, 'I don't know, start a family.'"
Do you see what's going on there? He's going through life doing things just because he's SUPPOSED TO. And that obviously provides him with no fulfillment, because he's just doing things because he's SUPPOSED TO. He expects that his life is going to be all sunshine and roses if he merely follows a formula. Then he finds out that's wrong. And instead of acting like an adult, he rebels against conformity. He started out conforming for the sake of conformity, and ended up rebelling for the sake of rebellion. And the reason WHY is simple...these are spoiled brats. Fight Club is filled with men who are bitter because they had entitlement issues. They expected happiness and meaning to simply fall into their laps if they followed the accepted norms of society. That didn't happen, so they throw a whiny tantrum and start beating each other up and treating themselves like ****.
Fight Club (the movie, not the club) absolutely has its flaws. But the movie was NEVER portraying this as a "male thing". I've definitely heard that interpretation and I simply don't agree with it. It's more about the problems of looking for the quick fix. The men in Fight Club were bitter because their quick fix didn't provide answers. So then in their vulnerability they joined a cult which promised them a quick fix. That's not a "male thing". The members of Fight Club are simply spoiled brats with a high sense of entitlement. And then when the solutions to their problems don't magically fall from the sky, those people basically throw a tantrum like little children. The movie is NOT portraying men like that. Edward Norton's character explicitly states that "most people, normal people, will do just about anything to avoid a fight."
[QUOTE="Verge_6"]
The very notion that every man has some primitive, raging caveman inside him that wants to beat people up and get beaten up for no reason made me laugh. Good movie, but christ was it'spoint lol-worthy.
MrGeezer
I don't think that was its point at all. Watch the movie again and you'll notice that a hell of a lot of men in the movie were repulsed by the actions of the Fight Club members.
Furthermore, you'll notice that one thing that Tyler Durdern consistently talks about is "hitting bottom". So it's no surprise that the love interest is Marla Singer...a chain-smoking pill-popping laundry-stealing sometimes-suicidal woman who walks into traffic and also gets a thrill out of attending support groups. It's absolutely not a "man thing". Marla Singer seems to sort of be trying to "hit bottom" as well.
And finally, don't forget Tyler Durden's speech about how their "Great War" was with their lives. Notice him railing against consumerism and the establishment. Consider this anecdote...
"So my dad tells me, 'Go to college'. I went to college. Then I asked my dad, 'What now?' So he says, get a job.' Then I got a job and I asked my dad, 'What now?' He says, 'I don't know, start a family.'"
Do you see what's going on there? He's going through life doing things just because he's SUPPOSED TO. And that obviously provides him with no fulfillment, because he's just doing things because he's SUPPOSED TO. He expects that his life is going to be all sunshine and roses if he merely follows a formula. Then he finds out that's wrong. And instead of acting like an adult, he rebels against conformity. He started out conforming for the sake of conformity, and ended up rebelling for the sake of rebellion. And the reason WHY is simple...these are spoiled brats. Fight Club is filled with men who are bitter because they had entitlement issues. They expected happiness and meaning to simply fall into their laps if they followed the accepted norms of society. That didn't happen, so they throw a whiny tantrum and start beating each other up and treating themselves like ****.
Fight Club (the movie, not the club) absolutely has its flaws. But the movie was NEVER portraying this as a "male thing". I've definitely heard that interpretation and I simply don't agree with it. It's more about the problems of looking for the quick fix. The men in Fight Club were bitter because their quick fix didn't provide answers. So then in their vulnerability they joined a cult which promised them a quick fix. That's not a "male thing". The members of Fight Club are simply spoiled brats with a high sense of entitlement. And then when the solutions to their problems don't magically fall from the sky, those people basically throw a tantrum like little children. The movie is NOT portraying men like that. Edward Norton's character explicitly states that "most people, normal people, will do just about anything to avoid a fight."
my thoughts in tooooooooooooooooooooooo many words[QUOTE="Verge_6"]
The very notion that every man has some primitive, raging caveman inside him that wants to beat people up and get beaten up for no reason made me laugh. Good movie, but christ was it'spoint lol-worthy.
MrGeezer
I don't think that was its point at all. Watch the movie again and you'll notice that a hell of a lot of men in the movie were repulsed by the actions of the Fight Club members.
Furthermore, you'll notice that one thing that Tyler Durdern consistently talks about is "hitting bottom". So it's no surprise that the love interest is Marla Singer...a chain-smoking pill-popping laundry-stealing sometimes-suicidal woman who walks into traffic and also gets a thrill out of attending support groups. It's absolutely not a "man thing". Marla Singer seems to sort of be trying to "hit bottom" as well.
And finally, don't forget Tyler Durden's speech about how their "Great War" was with their lives. Notice him railing against consumerism and the establishment. Consider this anecdote...
"So my dad tells me, 'Go to college'. I went to college. Then I asked my dad, 'What now?' So he says, get a job.' Then I got a job and I asked my dad, 'What now?' He says, 'I don't know, start a family.'"
Do you see what's going on there? He's going through life doing things just because he's SUPPOSED TO. And that obviously provides him with no fulfillment, because he's just doing things because he's SUPPOSED TO. He expects that his life is going to be all sunshine and roses if he merely follows a formula. Then he finds out that's wrong. And instead of acting like an adult, he rebels against conformity. He started out conforming for the sake of conformity, and ended up rebelling for the sake of rebellion. And the reason WHY is simple...these are spoiled brats. Fight Club is filled with men who are bitter because they had entitlement issues. They expected happiness and meaning to simply fall into their laps if they followed the accepted norms of society. That didn't happen, so they throw a whiny tantrum and start beating each other up and treating themselves like ****.
Fight Club (the movie, not the club) absolutely has its flaws. But the movie was NEVER portraying this as a "male thing". I've definitely heard that interpretation and I simply don't agree with it. It's more about the problems of looking for the quick fix. The men in Fight Club were bitter because their quick fix didn't provide answers. So then in their vulnerability they joined a cult which promised them a quick fix. That's not a "male thing". The members of Fight Club are simply spoiled brats with a high sense of entitlement. And then when the solutions to their problems don't magically fall from the sky, those people basically throw a tantrum like little children. The movie is NOT portraying men like that. Edward Norton's character explicitly states that "most people, normal people, will do just about anything to avoid a fight."
That's a good explanation, I agree with you. But you forgot the last part, the collapse of those buildings represent the collapse of an entire economical system. A thing I think Fight Club tried to portray. A society which reaches its extreme banality in a personal, individual way for many people can indeed reach it in a macro way and that's why it has no other way but to "hit bottom".[spoiler] Sooo wouldnt Edward Norton's character be locked up for his entire life for collapsing all those buildings at the end? He even admitted to the police department that he was planning it, and then ran out wielding a gun around. Arent his consequences massive? I can't cope with how depressing that ending is. [/spoiler]
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