so i pretty much got screwed over by my lab partner...

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#51 spazzx625
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If you can't figure out the rest of a lab it sounds like your original lab partner was pulling your weight. Why can't you just work with another group and do your work?
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#52 Serraph105
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you're supposed to get back to work on your lab.

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#53 CreasianDevaili
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Welcome to the reason why you get put into groups in the first place. It is to prepare you for this stuff. First off.. it is your fault entirely that you got this close to a deadline and got put into a corner. It is called project milestones. It is done to make sure you can meet a proper timetable for completion. If you miss a milestone it is supposed to be a huge slap in your face that something broke and needs fixed. If it was a 3 week project timetable then every single week you should of had at least 35% of the project done, if not 40%. If you waited till the final week to verify, inform, rectify the work to being at least 70% done then you are at fault. It was your grade man. No one is gonna hold your hand on group projects.
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#54 deactivated-58df4522915cb
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You should have informed your professor early on once you felt your partner wasn't doing his fair share of work. Sometimes, it may help if the professor knows about the situation early, since some professors may be inclined to be more lenient on your grades or be more forgiving in terms of deadlines in cases like this. It's a bit too late now for all this though. Do your best to finish as much of your assignment as you can. Good luck.silentexistence

I actually did inform the professor, many times in fact, and he didnt listen to what I had to say untill I met with him today. He couldnt even do his share of the work on his own, he always had his roommates (who were all CS majors) do it for him.

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#55 deactivated-58df4522915cb
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Ive been reading what you guys have had to say, and just to clarify a few things:

1) we get one lab assignment a week

2) for every lab assignment we do get, he always had to reschedule it with me because he was always either hungover, or working out (which is understandable because he is a football player). Whenever I propose meeting to work on it on the day we assignment, it always gets pushed back till the night before its due.

3) The only reason he ever finished his fair share on our labs was because he always had his roommmates (3-4 computer science majors) holding his hand through his portions and practically doing the lab for him.

4) the lab that we were on was our first forray into graphics. considering that this is an intro class and im just learning, not to mention that we are going from designing tables to drawing pictures in a week (which is a big step for me), naturally im going to get stumped and need help myself (nevermind the fact that the lab itself was designed for 2 people to work on)

5) if anyone wants to know, the language we are working with is java

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#56 Kelayr
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I actually did inform the professor, many times in fact, and he didnt listen to what I had to say untill I met with him today. He couldnt even do his share of the work on his own, he always had his roommates (who were all CS majors) do it for him.

Neo-ganon
Too bad your professor is the unreasonable type, then. Not much you can do in that case other than to just do your best.
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#57 deactivated-58df4522915cb
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[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

I actually did inform the professor, many times in fact, and he didnt listen to what I had to say untill I met with him today. He couldnt even do his share of the work on his own, he always had his roommates (who were all CS majors) do it for him.

silentexistence

Too bad your professor is the unreasonable type, then. Not much you can do in that case other than to just do your best.

thats true! all anyone can ever ask you at the end of the day. my plan is to solo the last 2 labs and get at least 90% on both and on the final. hopefully i can make up for the performance on this lab then

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#58 Kelayr
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thats true! all anyone can ever ask you at the end of the day. my plan is to solo the last 2 labs and get at least 90% on both and on the final. hopefully i can make up for the performance on this lab then

Neo-ganon
At least you have some more labs to get your grade back up. You're also lucky you're using Java for your labs - it's one of the easiest languages to learn and get used to.
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[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

thats true! all anyone can ever ask you at the end of the day. my plan is to solo the last 2 labs and get at least 90% on both and on the final. hopefully i can make up for the performance on this lab then

silentexistence

At least you have some more labs to get your grade back up. You're also lucky you're using Java for your labs - it's one of the easiest languages to learn and get used to.

really? It seems about the same to me as using C++ imo. My prior experience with programming includes a high school C++ class and modding for Doom :P

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#60 jaqulle999
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My problem isn't as bad as yours but i still think its funny. Today we were doing a lab in chemistry. Its on stoichiometry where we have to make an exact amount of a product. We spent to lab periods mixing the chemicals and doing the reactions. With five minutes left in class we had to seperate the water from the chemicals to measure the product and my teacher came over to look at it. As it was filtering he hit the beaker and the filter spilling everything on the lab table. He completly screwed up the lab, but at least he promised to make it up to us. I think i will do a written lab for this one and attribute any error to him.

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#61 Shmiity
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Kick his god damn ass?

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#62 branketra
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You're lab partner sounds like he would have been better off not going to the class at all. I'm not really sure what to do, since I've never been in that position. Though, my group presentation is due tomorrow. I may have subconsciously made my slides longer than normal because the other members of my group seemed a bit flaky. I could be jumping the gun, but one way or another, I'll know tomorrow. The best thing I can tell you to do is to talk to your professor and explain everything that happened. Be honest. If he's worth anything as a teacher, he'll respect it. There's a chance that he won't listen to reason and your grades will take a blow. The only thing you can do then is prepare for this in the future so that even if your partner(s) screw up, at least you did your part.
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#63 Nikalai_88
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Group projects are a pain.

The only thing you can do is talk to your proffessor.

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#64 Shadowchronicle
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You will be working in groups just like this when you get a job. The first thing you do is make plans in case that person does not show up. You also end up evaluating other people and could potentially throw in some feedback to your boss about this person who doesn't work all the time, if you were in a job. Next time just tell your professor that your partner wasn't really all that great and be prepared for that person who doesn't work so much.
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#65 GiveMeSomething
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In my comp sci college course, we got assigned lab partners. I had a good thing going with being partners with one of my friends (we were getting all A's and B's on the labs), but for whatever reason, the professor ignored our requests to continue being partners, and I got stuck with some jock who knows nothing about computer science.

That was about 3 weeks ago. flash forward to now, and we only ever get C's or D's on our labs. My lab partner starts giving me crap when I asked him if he did his portion of the lab we were working on (or I was working on, since he was gone that day due to a family emergency). So we make plans to meet that weekend to finish the lab off. That weekend, he tells me that he hadnt worked on his parts of it at all and had dropped the class, which pretty much means that He left me with a 2 person's worth of work lab assignment thats about 20% done. I asked the professor for an extension and a new lab partner. He extended it about a day, but gave me no new partner. So now, the assignment is due tomorrow, and I got about 1/10th of a lab done because I cant figure out the rest.

what, OT, should I do?

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I enjoy your suffering D: I must be a bit sadistic.

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#66 lilasianwonder
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Stop wasting time and get to work.
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#67 martin101n
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Atleast you're not in the friend-zone.

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#68 Bloodseeker23
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Atleast you're not in the friend-zone.

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Hahahahaha.. oh man... OT.
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#69 GreySeal9
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It seems to me that the only thing you can do is try and do the work.

Maybe you can try to argue your case again, but it doesn't seem like you have enough time.

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#70 Fightingfan
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You gotta slap a hoe once in a while. Hoe = science partner.
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In my comp sci college course, we got assigned lab partners. I had a good thing going with being partners with one of my friends (we were getting all A's and B's on the labs), but for whatever reason, the professor ignored our requests to continue being partners, and I got stuck with some jock who knows nothing about computer science.

That was about 3 weeks ago. flash forward to now, and we only ever get C's or D's on our labs. My lab partner starts giving me crap when I asked him if he did his portion of the lab we were working on (or I was working on, since he was gone that day due to a family emergency). So we make plans to meet that weekend to finish the lab off. That weekend, he tells me that he hadnt worked on his parts of it at all and had dropped the class, which pretty much means that He left me with a 2 person's worth of work lab assignment thats about 20% done. I asked the professor for an extension and a new lab partner. He extended it about a day, but gave me no new partner. So now, the assignment is due tomorrow, and I got about 1/10th of a lab done because I cant figure out the rest.

what, OT, should I do?

Neo-ganon
Welcome to life. It doesn't matter that it was your lab partner's fault and not yours. Bottom line is that you get judged on the quality of the work, and the work sucks. If you've known that he's unreliable, then FIRST pick up his slack. Do the whole thing yourself in order to ensure that YOU don't get screwed. THEN go and complain about how he didn't do any of the work, so he shouldn't get any credit. First watch your own ass. If that requires doing his work, then that's what you do. Take care of yourself, THEN complain about the other guy.
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I was expecting something more...sexual TC. I am disappoint. :(
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Do the best you can in such a short amount of time.

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#74 coolbeans90
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the assignment is due tomorrow, and I got about 1/10th of a lab done becauseI cant figure out the rest.

Neo-ganon

Sounds like you screwed yourself over.

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#75 XilePrincess
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Talk to the teacher about it. He dropped the class, it's a 2-person assignment, he shouldn't expect you to do the whole assignment by yourself. Also talk to the student services or counselling department, tell them to look at how your grades fell when you got partnered with this person. They might be able to do something for you because it's really not fair that your grades suffered because of new partner guy.
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#76 CaptainAhab13
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Do as much of it as you can, then explain what happened to the professor. I would get going instead of posting on OT. :?
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#77 Big_Bad_Sad
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If your friend has finished his ask him to give you a hand.
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#78 Planeforger
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If the professor isn't the guy coordinating the subject, talk to the person in charge. Alternately, try talking to someone at the student centre (if you have one), or in your student union (if you have one). Maybe even the head of that particular field, if your college is set up that way.
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[QUOTE="Neo-ganon"]

In my comp sci college course, we got assigned lab partners. I had a good thing going with being partners with one of my friends (we were getting all A's and B's on the labs), but for whatever reason, the professor ignored our requests to continue being partners, and I got stuck with some jock who knows nothing about computer science.

That was about 3 weeks ago. flash forward to now, and we only ever get C's or D's on our labs. My lab partner starts giving me crap when I asked him if he did his portion of the lab we were working on (or I was working on, since he was gone that day due to a family emergency). So we make plans to meet that weekend to finish the lab off. That weekend, he tells me that he hadnt worked on his parts of it at all and had dropped the class, which pretty much means that He left me with a 2 person's worth of work lab assignment thats about 20% done. I asked the professor for an extension and a new lab partner. He extended it about a day, but gave me no new partner. So now, the assignment is due tomorrow, and I got about 1/10th of a lab done because I cant figure out the rest.

what, OT, should I do?

MrGeezer

Welcome to life. It doesn't matter that it was your lab partner's fault and not yours. Bottom line is that you get judged on the quality of the work, and the work sucks. If you've known that he's unreliable, then FIRST pick up his slack. Do the whole thing yourself in order to ensure that YOU don't get screwed. THEN go and complain about how he didn't do any of the work, so he shouldn't get any credit. First watch your own ass. If that requires doing his work, then that's what you do. Take care of yourself, THEN complain about the other guy.

I gotta agree. You know your partner is a loser so it's time to do some damage control. I hate partnering up only because of this scenario. Usually labs are fun and you get paired with cool people but that is not always the case. And labs will happen because you are going to be judged by your ability to work with others. The same thing is going to happen when you get a job. It WILL happen. Do what you can but learn from this so that you're ready when it happens again. Oh yes it WILL happen again.