So I was watching Saving Private Ryan and came to a realization....

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#1 NicktehImperial
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Ok, I've seen this movie before and saw it yesterday but I was watching the one scene where the guy was shot in the stomach and bleeding to death and his comrades were trying to stop the bleeding and all and he was like... "Oh god I don't want to die mommoy oh god please I don't wanna die uggghhhh."

So my thing is, if you were dying whether it was in a war or anywhere, why would you act all scared like that and mortify your friends? I wouldn't want to die but if I was dying I wouldn't want to be remebered as a coward, if you knew you were going to die anyway then why would you go out as a coward? Wouldn't you want to say something like "Avenge me mother*******" or "Tell them to go to hell." or something heroic to be remembered by?

Yes I know I'll get flamed with people telling me how serious war is but whether it was war or peace or whatever, if you were dying why go out as a coward?  Oh plus if you don't want to die then don't join the army infantry during the bloodiest war in history, work in a gun factory or do some non combat thing.

What do you think? If you were dying would you be crying like a little girl or would you try to be heroic and make use of your last moments to be remembered?

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#2 romocop33
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the panic of dying probably prevents such rational thoughts as "quick, say something heroic"
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#3 Sajo7
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Get shot in the stomach and then try this thread again. :|
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#4 skullkrusher13
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I think its a movie.
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#5 Hellraiser3899
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I'm guessing getting shot would hurt a lot, I'd probably cry...
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#6 Mattchu758
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well if i was shot like him, i wouldnt want to die either, who does? especially at the young of age? I would prolly do the same thing, i think at the moment you wouldnt really try and be heroic like in some movies but be in pain and suffering and not wanting to die.
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#7 zakkro
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Get shot in the stomach and then try this thread again. :|Sajo7
Yeah, seriously.
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#8 geodisicdome
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i dont think you would be thinking about that if your guts were hanging out. you would suddenly realize how much you have to lose.
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#9 AngelB1ack
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Shock, panic, the realization that you will soon be dead...he was a medic he knew his days on earth were almost done...i'm sure when faced with that realization a person doesnt care if they are percieved to be a coward or anything for that matter...you are going to die forever.
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#10 ElZilcho90
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Get shot in the stomach and then try this thread again. :|Sajo7

QFT. Seriously, if you're dieing from mortal gunshot wounds, not alot of thought is given to saying something heroic. 

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#11 mattykovax
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 Here is  a suggestion.Wait untill you are dying,especially if it is violent and if you go out gracefully your comments stand,otherwise untill you are faced with the situation you dont know. I am sure there are a lot of "heros' that would break when gutshot.

Its like the could you respond and be a hero if a fire or some other emergency situation happend in front of you? Untill your faced with it you do not know.

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#12 megagene
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I don't think there's anything cowardly about being afraid to die.
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#13 nuttybar
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I dont think people would think of him as a coward, seeing as he was brave enough to go on that mission...:| That and getting shot in the stomach and then getting jacked up on morphine is going to make you not care about how you will be remembered
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#14 yoyo462001
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hey man war does crazy things to people.
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#15 foxhound_fox
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When you grow up and learn that war is not a game, go to Iraq or wherever there is a conflict, get shot in the stomach, and come back and tell us how you feel.
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#16 trigga1230
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Since when does saying "I don't want to die" make you a coward? I'd probably be saying the same thing if my insides were hanging out my body.
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#17 KrAzY_cHrIs
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hey man war does crazy things to people.yoyo462001

Exactly before I went to war I was just called Chris

but really I don't think I could come up with witty one liners when I got shot in the stomach

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#18 NicktehImperial
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]Get shot in the stomach and then try this thread again. :|zakkro
Yeah, seriously.

I just mean if you knew you were gonna die anyway then try to make the best of it. Getting shot is painfull but you don't have to be a ***** about it.

If I knew I was gonna die anyway and I was in pain I would make my last words inspiring, not horrible and cowardly.

Its not like every person in history who was dying acted like that, Samurai would rip out their own guts just to make their ending as dramatic as possible and they didn't cry about it.

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Ok, I've seen this movie before and saw it yesterday but I was watching the one scene where the guy was shot in the stomach and bleeding to death and his comrades were trying to stop the bleeding and all and he was like... "Oh god I don't want to die mommoy oh god please I don't wanna die uggghhhh." NicktehImperial

Pretty dramatic scene if you ask me.

 So my thing is, if you were dying whether it was in a war or anywhere, why would you act all scared like that and mortify your friends?

What do you mean "mortify"? You're a ****ing battlefield for christ sake. You've got more important things to worry about than BS high school popularity contests.

 I wouldn't want to die but if I was dying I wouldn't want to be remebered as a coward, if you knew you were going to die anyway then why would you go out as a coward?

 You're an idiot. Do you honestly equate being "wounded" to being cowardly? By that token, officers should execute wounded comrades because they are "cowards".

 Wouldn't you want to say something like "Avenge me mother*******" or "Tell them to go to hell." or something heroic to be remembered by?

What are you on? Can I have some?

Yes I know I'll get flamed with people telling me how serious war is but whether it was war or peace or whatever, if you were dying why go out as a coward? 

Don't try and throw a ***** fit if people call you out on your obvious ignorance.

 Oh plus if you don't want to die then don't join the army infantry during the bloodiest war in history,

No ****. Ya think? Would you like some kind of award for pointing out this blatently obvious factoid?

 work in a gun factory or do some non combat thing.

Unlikely to work for a guy. Most of the labor force during the second World War was female. As a male, you were expected by culture and social concerns to go fight.

What do you think? If you were dying would you be crying like a little girl or would you try to be heroic and make use of your last moments to be remembered?

I'm not even going to dignify this question with a direct responce. You're just another ignorant child of the Hollywood generation. Been keeping up with Star magazine lately? I heard Tyra Banks went to the bathroom last issue.

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#20 zakkro
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[QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="Sajo7"]Get shot in the stomach and then try this thread again. :|NicktehImperial

Yeah, seriously.

I just mean if you knew you were gonna die anyway then try to make the best of it. Getting shot is painfull but you don't have to be a ***** about it.

If I knew I was gonna die anyway and I was in pain I would make my last words inspiring, not horrible and cowardly.

Its not like every person in history who was dying acted like that, Samurai would rip out their own guts just to make their ending as dramatic as possible and they didn't cry about it.

Your comparing a code of honor to some 18 year old whisked into the military for a horrible war? I'm not listening anymore. :|
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#21 AngelB1ack
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You need to come back to reality and realize life is not like a movie. What if the bullet severed his spinal cord etc...This thread pisses me off.

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#22 Apollo5000
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Firstly according to Mr White getting shot in the stomach is one of the worst places to get shot since it hurts like hell, as you can imagine, so rational thought would probably be out the window, you would either pass out from the pain or want to pass out from the pain. Secondly since when has being scared of bleeding to death from a round in the stomach that you took fighting in a war that you probably wanted no part in, in the first place. Dying in the arms of a guy you met because of the war instead of dying when it was your time?
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[QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="Sajo7"]Get shot in the stomach and then try this thread again. :|NicktehImperial

Yeah, seriously.

I just mean if you knew you were gonna die anyway then try to make the best of it. Getting shot is painfull but you don't have to be a ***** about it.

If I knew I was gonna die anyway and I was in pain I would make my last words inspiring, not horrible and cowardly.

Its not like every person in history who was dying acted like that, Samurai would rip out their own guts just to make their ending as dramatic as possible and they didn't cry about it.

Please. Big words from a guy sitting in an armchair in front of a computer in some airconditioned room in Suburbia, USA.

Trust me, if you got your insides ripped apart by machine gun fire, you wouldn't be in a state of mind to create a witty one-liner. 

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#24 Sajo7
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[QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="Sajo7"]Get shot in the stomach and then try this thread again. :|NicktehImperial

Yeah, seriously.

I just mean if you knew you were gonna die anyway then try to make the best of it. Getting shot is painfull but you don't have to be a ***** about it.

If I knew I was gonna die anyway and I was in pain I would make my last words inspiring, not horrible and cowardly.

Its not like every person in history who was dying acted like that, Samurai would rip out their own guts just to make their ending as dramatic as possible and they didn't cry about it.

Why don't you just lay down for awhile before you say something even worse.

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#25 NextGenNow
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]Get shot in the stomach and then try this thread again. :|ElZilcho90

QFT. Seriously, if you're dieing from mortal gunshot wounds, not alot of thought is given to saying something heroic. 

I OFFICIALLY APPROVE THIS MESSAGE.

 

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#26 AngelB1ack
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Is this a fake thread supposed to make Americans mad because its Memorial Day? If this is true this person deserves to take a vacation. I say this person is trying to cause some controversy on this American day of remembrance.
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#27 NextGenNow
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[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="Sajo7"]Get shot in the stomach and then try this thread again. :|ElZilcho90

Yeah, seriously.

I just mean if you knew you were gonna die anyway then try to make the best of it. Getting shot is painfull but you don't have to be a ***** about it.

If I knew I was gonna die anyway and I was in pain I would make my last words inspiring, not horrible and cowardly.

Its not like every person in history who was dying acted like that, Samurai would rip out their own guts just to make their ending as dramatic as possible and they didn't cry about it.

Please. Big words from a guy sitting in an armchair in front of a computer in some airconditioned room in Suburbia, USA.

Trust me, if you got your insides ripped apart by machine gun fire, you wouldn't be in a state of mind to create a witty one-liner. 

I OFFICIALLY APPROVE THIS MESSAGE AND I OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZE RANGERS AS > MARINES.
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#28 NicktehImperial
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When you grow up and learn that war is not a game, go to Iraq or wherever there is a conflict, get shot in the stomach, and come back and tell us how you feel.foxhound_fox

War is serious business and you kill people and watch your frinds get killed, but if I knew I was gonna die I would probably be more angry then scared. I'm 14, when I was a kid I would cry if I was hurt but if I get hurt now, emotionally or physically I don't cry, I get angry and intense and ready to smash someone in, although I wouldn't hurt anyone unless it was a war or self defense or defending someone else.

I've gotten punched in the stomach and in the face at school, and I've beat some kids pretty badly, I know self control.

So likely if I did lose control and wasn't heroic I would more likely go insane then cry.

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#29 CaptHawkeye
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I just mean if you knew you were gonna die anyway then try to make the best of it. Getting shot is painfull but you don't have to be a ***** about it.NicktehImperial

And I take it you are in a position to lecture everyone on what it's like to be shot? This is only getting more and more hilarious.

If I knew I was gonna die anyway and I was in pain I would make my last words inspiring, not horrible and cowardly.

I can see you have no idea where to seperate "reality" from "imagination".

Its not like every person in history who was dying acted like that, Samurai would rip out their own guts just to make their ending as dramatic as possible and they didn't cry about it.

Yes, fighting on a battlefield with swords and arrows is immiedietly comparable to tanks, mortars, and machine guns. Here's a hint, modern war is nothing like medieval/impieral era warfare.

Your "macho man" soldier mantra is also annoying. Do you honestly think men care about who the most manly man is when they're fighting? They're proffesionals you idiot, not actors.

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#30 Sajo7
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]When you grow up and learn that war is not a game, go to Iraq or wherever there is a conflict, get shot in the stomach, and come back and tell us how you feel.NicktehImperial

War is serious business and you kill people and watch your frinds get killed, but if I knew I was gonna die I would probably be more angry then scared. I'm 14, when I was a kid I would cry if I was hurt but if I get hurt now, emotionally or physically I don't cry, I get angry and intense and ready to smash someone in, although I wouldn't hurt anyone unless it was a war or self defense or defending someone else.

I've gotten punched in the stomach and in the face at school, and I've beat some kids pretty badly, I know self control.

So likely if I did lose control and wasn't heroic I would more likely go insane then cry.

You just don't get it.  Please for your own sake just stop posting.

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#31 AngelB1ack
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With every post from the OP this thread just keeps getting worse.
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#32 zakkro
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]When you grow up and learn that war is not a game, go to Iraq or wherever there is a conflict, get shot in the stomach, and come back and tell us how you feel.NicktehImperial

War is serious business and you kill people and watch your frinds get killed, but if I knew I was gonna die I would probably be more angry then scared. I'm 14, when I was a kid I would cry if I was hurt but if I get hurt now, emotionally or physically I don't cry, I get angry and intense and ready to smash someone in, although I wouldn't hurt anyone unless it was a war or self defense or defending someone else.

I've gotten punched in the stomach and in the face at school, and I've beat some kids pretty badly, I know self control.

So likely if I did lose control and wasn't heroic I would more likely go insane then cry.

Omg you've been punched in the stomach and the face! :o Well then, I guess you do have an idea what its like getting shot in the stomach and bleed to death... :|
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#33 NicktehImperial
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Yeah this thread is making people angry! I'm not saying war is a game, but if you were dying from anything in general why not just suck it up and make your last words memorable?

Not just in a war predicament where you are shot in the stomach.

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#34 CaptHawkeye
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Yeah this thread is making people angry! I'm not saying war is a game, but if you were dying from anything in general why not just suck it up and make your last words memorable?

Not just in a war predicament where you are shot in the stomach.

NicktehImperial

People have beat you over the head with answer repeatedly and you continue to ignore it. :roll: Christ.

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#35 ElZilcho90
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Yeah this thread is making people angry! I'm not saying war is a game, but if you were dying from anything in general why not just suck it up and make your last words memorable?

Not just in a war predicament where you are shot in the stomach.

NicktehImperial

"Suck it up"? You honostly have no idea what you're talking about, do you? 

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#36 Sajo7
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Yeah this thread is making people angry! I'm not saying war is a game, but if you were dying from anything in general why not just suck it up and make your last words memorable?

Not just in a war predicament where you are shot in the stomach.

NicktehImperial

I give up.  Fine, when your intensines are falling out of your gut go ahead and suck it up, I'm sure everyone will be real damn proud.

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#37 KrAzY_cHrIs
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]When you grow up and learn that war is not a game, go to Iraq or wherever there is a conflict, get shot in the stomach, and come back and tell us how you feel.NicktehImperial

War is serious business and you kill people and watch your frinds get killed, but if I knew I was gonna die I would probably be more angry then scared. I'm 14, when I was a kid I would cry if I was hurt but if I get hurt now, emotionally or physically I don't cry, I get angry and intense and ready to smash someone in, although I wouldn't hurt anyone unless it was a war or self defense or defending someone else.

I've gotten punched in the stomach and in the face at school, and I've beat some kids pretty badly, I know self control.

So likely if I did lose control and wasn't heroic I would more likely go insane then cry.

wait a minute you have been punched in the stomach whaoh well I've been roundhouse kicked by Chuck Norris and lived to tell the tale so while you may just go insane and angry by getting shot in the stomach I would proberly just laugh it off the eat the guys face thats how manly I am so their

I am teh manlyness!

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#38 Greenwhitegreen
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So my thing is, if you were dying whether it was in a war or anywhere, why would you act all scared like that and mortify your friends? I wouldn't want to die but if I was dying I wouldn't want to be remembered as a coward, if you knew you were going to die anyway then why would you go out as a coward? Wouldn't you want to say something like "Avenge me mother*******" or "Tell them to go to hell." or something heroic to be remembered by?

NicktehImperial





:lol: I wouldn't think you would care so much with all the pain and that...but errr what an interesting mind you have!
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#39 NicktehImperial
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[QUOTE="NicktehImperial"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]When you grow up and learn that war is not a game, go to Iraq or wherever there is a conflict, get shot in the stomach, and come back and tell us how you feel.zakkro

War is serious business and you kill people and watch your frinds get killed, but if I knew I was gonna die I would probably be more angry then scared. I'm 14, when I was a kid I would cry if I was hurt but if I get hurt now, emotionally or physically I don't cry, I get angry and intense and ready to smash someone in, although I wouldn't hurt anyone unless it was a war or self defense or defending someone else.

I've gotten punched in the stomach and in the face at school, and I've beat some kids pretty badly, I know self control.

So likely if I did lose control and wasn't heroic I would more likely go insane then cry.

Omg you've been punched in the stomach and the face! :o Well then, I guess you do know have an idea what its like getting shot in the stomach and bleed to death... :|

I'm just saying I don't cry about stuff, I get mad, maybe if I was shot in the stomach I would go in shock, but maybe I would cry, just not as cowrdly, or I would get angry. Or I would say something to remember?

But this all depends where when and how you are dying, maybe if I was dyiing from a less painfull shot in war, I would be upset that my life is cut short but I would have control.

I think we're forgetting that people in real life dyed in war and had heroic last words. I mean maybe some people are slef controlled even when being shot.

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#40 AngelB1ack
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OMG this OP cant be for real....this is a joke thread right?
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#41 Da_lil_PimP
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]When you grow up and learn that war is not a game, go to Iraq or wherever there is a conflict, get shot in the stomach, and come back and tell us how you feel.NicktehImperial

War is serious business and you kill people and watch your frinds get killed, but if I knew I was gonna die I would probably be more angry then scared. I'm 14, when I was a kid I would cry if I was hurt but if I get hurt now, emotionally or physically I don't cry, I get angry and intense and ready to smash someone in, although I wouldn't hurt anyone unless it was a war or self defense or defending someone else.

I've gotten punched in the stomach and in the face at school, and I've beat some kids pretty badly, I know self control.

So likely if I did lose control and wasn't heroic I would more likely go insane then cry.

So your saying you would be able to suck up the pain of being shot in the stomach and have your guts hanging out and go insane. Wow

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#42 Bampaz
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Yes, you wouldn't matter about leaving a heroic story if you got shot
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#43 ElZilcho90
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That's it. I officially wash my hands of this thread. The OP's naivety and immaturity are matched only by his stubborness in the face of people who are trying to explain to him how a person who's dieing from gunshots to the gut may be a bit more preoccupied with their own mortality than saying something heroic to be chiseled on their gravestone.
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#44 NicktehImperial
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OMG this OP cant be for real....this is a joke thread right?AngelB1ack

There were people in real life who's last words were heroic whether tehy were shot in the stomach or were in a hospital.

 

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#45 zakkro
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OMG this OP cant be for real....this is a joke thread right?AngelB1ack
A big a joke as your religion! zing! jk :P
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#46 foxhound_fox
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There were people in real life who's last words were heroic whether tehy were shot in the stomach or were in a hospital. NicktehImperial


What per-say would you do if you were the guy who got shot in the head?

What famous last words would you bestow on your comrades?
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I'm just saying I don't cry about stuff, I get mad, maybe if I was shot in the stomach I would go in shock, but maybe I would cry, just not as cowrdly, or I would get angry. Or I would say something to remember? NicktehImperial

You would either cry in pain or just die instantly. Don't pretend you could somehow "resist" the agonizing pain of an 8mm round to the stomach. Unless you honestly think anyone cares about your self macho wank Tell me, how many lions have you beat the **** out of lately?

But this all depends where when and how you are dying, maybe if I was dyiing from a less painfull shot in war, I would be upset that my life is cut short but I would have control.

If it isn't painfull, then chances are you won't notice it until the entire fight is over or won't drastically impede your combat performance. If you literally can't fight anymore, you will know it.

 I think we're forgetting that people in real life dyed in war and had heroic last words. I mean maybe some people are slef controlled even when being shot.

I am STILL wondering why you think a man must be as "macho" as possible when he dies. Is the concept of death that limited to you?

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#48 AngelB1ack
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zakkro, you dont even know my religion or if I even follow a religion...I couldn't care less what your opinion is.jk :P not..
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#49 NextGenNow
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AN MG-42 round tumbling in your lower intestins is among the most painful feelings in the world....it is a feelling not to unlike having the flu....imagine having the flu and slamming your finger in a car door. Combine those and multiply their intensity...you have a good idea of what that would feel like.
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#50 zakkro
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zakkro, you dont even know my religion or if I even follow a religion...I couldn't care less what your opinion is.jk :P not..AngelB1ack
:cry: I'm sorry! :P