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#1 black_chamber99
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A little recap: this is a contiunation of my 'everybody hates my band' thread. People were asking for a sample of my band's music so here's one song. Note its the poppiest song out of a batch of 'em that will be on the album, and the newer ones arent posted on youtube yet. (the others are harsher on the noise aspect). Also the lo-fi crappiness and vocals buried under the disortion are intentional. my band is kinda noise/post-punk, we can't gig anywhere because everyone hates us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg27FKR1E8k

what do you think?

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#2 coreybg
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The vocalist sounds bad =\

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#3 xTheExploited
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I liked it. Also I think hipsters tend to listen to more art rock, indie, folk, neo-psychedelia stuff.
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#4 MrEnvelope
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I was waiting for a riff and/or a melody to kick in but they never did. It's just noise (I know that thats what you are trying to do), it's just that I don't like it. Theres nothing on that track that stands out. For a moment I thought those noises were some kind of intro to the song but nothing happened. Sorry dude :?

Edit: Your audience must be really limited, still dont let the negative response from me and many others make you want to quit music. I've heard some more tracks from that youtube account, you have a vision that I respect but don't really enjoy or would follow. Remember, in the end art is whatever you want it to be and if making this kind of music makes you happy... then don't quit. :)

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#5 HoolaHoopMan
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No wonder you can't get a gig, that was ****ing terrible.
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#6 bobaban
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Gawd that's bad.
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#7 kipohippo021
Member since 2010 • 3895 Posts
No offense tc, but that made me cringe.
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#8 Ace6301
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I would say pretentious hipter garbage might be a complement. At least they have decent sound quality.
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#9 jimmyjammer69
Member since 2008 • 12239 Posts

Maybe.

Incidentally, aren't you the chap whose girlfriend left him for the shorts guy?

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#10 Crazyguy105
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It isn't good at all. D:

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#11 kipohippo021
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

Maybe.

Incidentally, aren't you the chap whose girlfriend left him for the shorts guy?

Was that the guy who sniffed the otherguys ass on stage?
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#12 mikegtfc
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Please stop making music.
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#13 The_OT_Man
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I liked your "obey" song I heard a little over a year ago. I spammed it in people's ventrilo servers and people were like "WTF is this garbage!?" Please keep making more I find them entertaining =)
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#14 jimmyjammer69
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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

Maybe.

Incidentally, aren't you the chap whose girlfriend left him for the shorts guy?

Was that the guy who sniffed the otherguys ass on stage?

The very same.
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#15 black_chamber99
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i'm contemplating taking an overdose right now. my girl left me, i hate my job, and my art is universally hated

this can't be life.

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#16 heysharpshooter
Member since 2009 • 6348 Posts

As a fan of some noise, the sound is inherently prerentious... thats something you'll just have to deal with.

Hipster? No...

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#17 XilePrincess
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I'm pretty sure my farts are more musical than whatever that was. I wouldn't even book you guys to play for free, let alone pay you to play that crap, that was horrible.
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#18 QuetzaIcoatl
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I didn't hate it at all, and certainly the sound has some potential. It did not stand out or grasp my attention either though.
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#19 black_cat19
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Meh, it could be worse... At least it didn't make my ears bleed, but it was really weird. I wouldn't really call it a song; more like "an atmosphere" or something. However, I prefer really polished, clean music with a heavy focus on melody, so I'm clearly not your target audience. :P

I wonder how big that audience might be, though; your music is definitely not "listener friendly"...

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#20 black_cat19
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i'm contemplating taking an overdose right now. my girl left me, i hate my job, and my art is universally hated

this can't be life.

black_chamber99

Drama queen... :roll:

Pull yourself together, get over it and move on. Not all the responses so far have been completely negative.

Besides, if you want your music to be "loved" by everyone, why the hell are you making "Post-Punk Noise" in the first place? That's what pop is for; start making generic Punk Pop music and you'll go mainstream in no time. Problem solved. If, on the other hand, you started making that kind of music to set yourself apart from the mainstream or whatever, you must have known from the start that it's an extremely niche genre that is not meant to be appreciated by the majority of music listeners. It's underground and kind of pretentious by nature; the fact that not everyone's going to like it is kind of the whole point, so why are you even complaining?

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#22 black_chamber99
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[QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

i'm contemplating taking an overdose right now. my girl left me, i hate my job, and my art is universally hated

this can't be life.

black_cat19

Drama queen... :roll:

Pull yourself together, get over it and move on. Not all the responses so far have been completely negative.

Besides, if you want your music to be "loved" by everyone, why the hell are you making "Post-Punk Noise" in the first place? That's what pop is for; start making generic Punk Pop music and you'll go mainstream in no time. Problem solved. If, on the other hand, you started making that kind of music to set yourself apart from the mainstream or whatever, you must have known from the start that it's an extremely niche genre that is not meant to be appreciated by the majority of music listeners. It's underground and kind of pretentious by nature; the fact that not everyone's going to like it is kind of the whole point, so why are you even complaining?

i was just joking about that. i dont really care

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#23 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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I thought it was pretty good. The sticks clacking together or whatever it is could be buried a little bit more.

Also, you should start adding a few more layers as the song goes on.

edit: was listening on laptop speakers. Now that I'm listening on actual speakers, it sounds awesome.

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#24 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

[QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

i'm contemplating taking an overdose right now. my girl left me, i hate my job, and my art is universally hated

this can't be life.

black_chamber99

Drama queen... :roll:

Pull yourself together, get over it and move on. Not all the responses so far have been completely negative.

Besides, if you want your music to be "loved" by everyone, why the hell are you making "Post-Punk Noise" in the first place? That's what pop is for; start making generic Punk Pop music and you'll go mainstream in no time. Problem solved. If, on the other hand, you started making that kind of music to set yourself apart from the mainstream or whatever, you must have known from the start that it's an extremely niche genre that is not meant to be appreciated by the majority of music listeners. It's underground and kind of pretentious by nature; the fact that not everyone's going to like it is kind of the whole point, so why are you even complaining?

i was just joking about that. i dont really care

You can add jokes to your list of things you aren't very good at then too.
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#25 MistressMinako
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Are there any lyrics? I mean I can hear a voice in the background but it is really fainting away. It sounds like a bunch of noise, turn up the vocalist.
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Are there any lyrics? I mean I can hear a voice in the background but it is really fainting away. It sounds like a bunch of noise, turn up the vocalist.MistressMinako
He's kind of supposed to be that low down in the mix.

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#27 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

Drama queen... :roll:

Pull yourself together, get over it and move on. Not all the responses so far have been completely negative.

Besides, if you want your music to be "loved" by everyone, why the hell are you making "Post-Punk Noise" in the first place? That's what pop is for; start making generic Punk Pop music and you'll go mainstream in no time. Problem solved. If, on the other hand, you started making that kind of music to set yourself apart from the mainstream or whatever, you must have known from the start that it's an extremely niche genre that is not meant to be appreciated by the majority of music listeners. It's underground and kind of pretentious by nature; the fact that not everyone's going to like it is kind of the whole point, so why are you even complaining?

Ace6301

i was just joking about that. i dont really care

You can add jokes to your list of things you aren't very good at then too.

Come now, you're just being mean. :P

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#28 MistressMinako
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[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]Are there any lyrics? I mean I can hear a voice in the background but it is really fainting away. It sounds like a bunch of noise, turn up the vocalist.jaydough

He's kind of supposed to be that low down in the mix.

Oh. Then... I don't have an opinion since I rather hear the vocalist. :P I don't know, it can be low, I guess I would prefer it to where I can understand the words. But... if that is the style then I tip off my hat and say good luck.
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#29 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]Are there any lyrics? I mean I can hear a voice in the background but it is really fainting away. It sounds like a bunch of noise, turn up the vocalist.MistressMinako

He's kind of supposed to be that low down in the mix.

Oh. Then... I don't have an opinion since I rather hear the vocalist. :P I don't know, it can be low, I guess I would prefer it to where I can understand the words. But... if that is the style then I tip off my hat and say good luck.

Lyrics =/= Music

;)

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#30 deactivated-5e97585ea928c
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I think the song would be perfect with some things added in, maybe a vocalist with some lyrics, some guitar, maybe a 2nd guitar and a bass guitar, some drums too

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#31 MistressMinako
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[QUOTE="MistressMinako"][QUOTE="jaydough"] He's kind of supposed to be that low down in the mix.

black_cat19

Oh. Then... I don't have an opinion since I rather hear the vocalist. :P I don't know, it can be low, I guess I would prefer it to where I can understand the words. But... if that is the style then I tip off my hat and say good luck.

Lyrics =/= Music

;)

Didn't say that lyrics made the music. I have tons of music with no lyrics. I was just saying if there was lyrics, I would want to hear them.
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#32 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"] Oh. Then... I don't have an opinion since I rather hear the vocalist. :P I don't know, it can be low, I guess I would prefer it to where I can understand the words. But... if that is the style then I tip off my hat and say good luck.MistressMinako

Lyrics =/= Music

;)

Didn't say that lyrics made the music. I have tons of music with no lyrics. I was just saying if there was lyrics, I would want to hear them.

Well, you don't have to be able to understand the lyrics in order to appreciate the music.

He's using singing as an instrument, rather than a method for pushing out lyrics.

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#33 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="black_chamber99"]

i was just joking about that. i dont really care

black_cat19

You can add jokes to your list of things you aren't very good at then too.

Come now, you're just being mean. :P

On a completely unrelated note, I keep confusing the two of you for the other.
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#34 MistressMinako
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[QUOTE="MistressMinako"][QUOTE="black_cat19"]

Lyrics =/= Music

;)

jaydough

Didn't say that lyrics made the music. I have tons of music with no lyrics. I was just saying if there was lyrics, I would want to hear them.

Well, you don't have to be able to understand the lyrics in order to appreciate the music.

He's using singing as an instrument, rather than a method for pushing out lyrics.

I was just saying I really don't have an opinion on it after the lyrics thing because that was the only thing that I noticed. I can't really say much because I don't really listen to bands that are related to his. Not that his music was bad. He just needs someone who is more into his type of music to form a better opinion. I just thought the lyrics thing was odd is all.
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#35 shadowkiller11
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I think there are tastes then there is quality, that wasn't very good.
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#36 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] You can add jokes to your list of things you aren't very good at then too.Lonelynight

Come now, you're just being mean. :P

On a completely unrelated note, I keep confusing the two of you for the other.

Oddly enough, so do I. :P

I keep seeing his name on some thread's last post column and thinking for a second "wait, I didn't post in that thread" until I realise it's not me. :P

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#37 muller39
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Not my cup of tea as the music did not pick up at all. Do all your songs sound like that?

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#38 Wilfred_Owen
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Whats a hipster?
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#39 MagnumPI
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What moderm music isn't pretentious Hipster Garbage?

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#40 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="black_cat19"]

Come now, you're just being mean. :P

black_cat19

On a completely unrelated note, I keep confusing the two of you for the other.

Oddly enough, so do I. :P

I keep seeing his name on some thread's last post column and thinking for a second "wait, I didn't post in that thread" until I realise it's not me. :P

I don't really see the similarity myself. I think my name is just generic enough that I could be mistaken for anyone.
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#41 needled24-7
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i couldn't really tell what was going on tbh.

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#43 Saturos3091
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I liked it. Also I think hipsters tend to listen to more art rock, indie, folk, neo-psychedelia stuff.xTheExploited
Yeah. Don't forget space rock either. I would know because I'm so hip. 8) Actually I really do enjoy some of those hipster genres..
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#44 mexicangordo
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Thats not Hipster, and thats not pretentious... That was terrible. Noise rock actually has rhythm and speaks a language of musical communication. Tons of great shoegazing and noise garage bands have shown this in the past.

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#45 mexicangordo
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[QUOTE="xTheExploited"]I liked it. Also I think hipsters tend to listen to more art rock, indie, folk, neo-psychedelia stuff.Saturos3091
Yeah. Don't forget space rock either. I would know because I'm so hip. 8) Actually I really do enjoy some of those hipster genres..

I absolutely love space rock, indie,folk, and neo-psychedelia and I am very far from being hipster, nor does it even remotely relate to that fad.

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#46 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="xTheExploited"]I liked it. Also I think hipsters tend to listen to more art rock, indie, folk, neo-psychedelia stuff.mexicangordo

Yeah. Don't forget space rock either. I would know because I'm so hip. 8) Actually I really do enjoy some of those hipster genres..

I absolutely love space rock, indie,folk, and neo-psychedelia and I am very far from being hipster, nor does it even remotely relate to that fad.

Well, it only relates because a lot of hipsters claim to love that stuff. That's basically all he/I was saying. You a fan of Flying Saucer Attack?
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#47 mexicangordo
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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"] Yeah. Don't forget space rock either. I would know because I'm so hip. 8) Actually I really do enjoy some of those hipster genres..Saturos3091

I absolutely love space rock, indie,folk, and neo-psychedelia and I am very far from being hipster, nor does it even remotely relate to that fad.

Well, it only relates because a lot of hipsters claim to love that stuff. That's basically all he/I was saying. You a fan of Flying Saucer Attack?

No I am not, but I know of the band. To much wall of noise at times, not enough refinement for my taste.

But yes it is true that most "hipsters" listen to indie/folk and to some extent, neo-psychedelia. I just thought you guys were generalizing.

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#48 Saturos3091
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No I am not, but I know of the band. To much wall of noise at times, not enough refinement for my taste.

But yes it is true that most "hipsters" listen to indie/folk and to some extent, neo-psychedelia. I just thought you guys were generalizing.

mexicangordo
Ah I love the wall of noise effect, but I guess it comes naturally since I mostly listen to metal. I also enjoy Hibria Spacefolk, Ozric Tentacles, even Comets On Fire (not really space rock but whatever) and a few other similar artists that combine a few of those 'hipster' subgenres.
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#49 mexicangordo
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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

No I am not, but I know of the band. To much wall of noise at times, not enough refinement for my taste.

But yes it is true that most "hipsters" listen to indie/folk and to some extent, neo-psychedelia. I just thought you guys were generalizing.

Saturos3091

Ah I love the wall of noise effect, but I guess it comes naturally since I mostly listen to metal. I also enjoy Hibria Spacefolk, Ozric Tentacles, even Comets On Fire (not really space rock but whatever) and a few other similar artists that combine a few of those 'hipster' subgenres.

I absolutely love Wall of noise as well (my sig are the smashing pumpkins after all) I just like the more classic sound, i.e Sonic Youth, Screaming Tree's, Trail by the Dead, Smashign Pumpkins, My Bloody Valintine...ect

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#50 PerfectCircles
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Pretentious hipster garbage does sum it up rather nicely...