So It's Election Day In The US...

[QUOTE="LittleHands134"]

Get off your moral high horses people. It's perfectly fine to not want to help out the poor, considering it's pretty much like tossing your money down a well.

They aren't going to do anything with my money but buy drugs and guns to kill eachother with. I'll keep my money, thank you very much.

Those drive by shootings you hear about, random muggings, it's all the poor doing that. What good do they do for our country? Push the homeless underground, clean up the ghettos and fill them with quality homes for people who actually make money. If the homeless try to do something, jail them.

It's not that hard, and this will make America a cleaner, happier, more family friendly place.

shyskillz

do you know that most of those drive buy shootings, muggings, robberies are because of having no money. c'mon, why else will they be doing this. every man wants to take care of themselves and their families, itz unfortunate that some have to resort to criminal tactics just so they can eat. the prisons are filled with minorities who committed crimes, most of these crimes were to obtain money.

I don't care what reasons they have for breaking the law. I just think of the quickest and most efficient solution, that's to lock them all up.

[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="shyskillz"][QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="shyskillz"]

please, you hardly hear any wealthy ppl complaning.

i know i'm going to get taxed but itz no biggie for me. i'll still be paid and i don't mind helping out my fellow country men. itz greed and selfishness that made the economy the way it is today.....or did we forget that already. or maybe theres other reasons for not voting......hmmm.

sSubZerOo

greed is sin and it has proven to always carry bad luck. a line has to be drawn somewhere, if not then you will get what you have today. you can still become wealthy with dedication and focus but you will go nowhere if the system is broken. giving a little back to help repair whats broken will actually make me feel like a better person. i'm positive many feel the same way, this is a great country and you can not enjoy life when everyone else around you is suffering. what type of person will that make me if i did?

I understand what you are saying about helping your fellow man, but all i want is for us to be able to do that ourselves. Not coerced by the government. Let me write the check to the charity of my choice.

The government already wrote your check to big business in the form of a $700 billion dollar bail out, that both McCain and Obama voted for. Furthermore places like AIG collapsed due to greed driven stratagies.

[QUOTE="shyskillz"][QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="shyskillz"]

please, you hardly hear any wealthy ppl complaning.

i know i'm going to get taxed but itz no biggie for me. i'll still be paid and i don't mind helping out my fellow country men. itz greed and selfishness that made the economy the way it is today.....or did we forget that already. or maybe theres other reasons for not voting......hmmm.

FragStains

greed is sin and it has proven to always carry bad luck. a line has to be drawn somewhere, if not then you will get what you have today. you can still become wealthy with dedication and focus but you will go nowhere if the system is broken. giving a little back to help repair whats broken will actually make me feel like a better person. i'm positive many feel the same way, this is a great country and you can not enjoy life when everyone else around you is suffering. what type of person will that make me if i did?

I understand what you are saying about helping your fellow man, but all i want is for us to be able to do that ourselves. Not coerced by the government. Let me write the check to the charity of my choice.

i feel you, but what other suggestions do we really have? we have to take up responsibility for our country or it will continue to go down the tubes....just like it has been doing for the last few years.

[QUOTE="shyskillz"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"]

Get off your moral high horses people. It's perfectly fine to not want to help out the poor, considering it's pretty much like tossing your money down a well.

They aren't going to do anything with my money but buy drugs and guns to kill eachother with. I'll keep my money, thank you very much.

Those drive by shootings you hear about, random muggings, it's all the poor doing that. What good do they do for our country? Push the homeless underground, clean up the ghettos and fill them with quality homes for people who actually make money. If the homeless try to do something, jail them.

It's not that hard, and this will make America a cleaner, happier, more family friendly place.

LittleHands134

do you know that most of those drive buy shootings, muggings, robberies are because of having no money. c'mon, why else will they be doing this. every man wants to take care of themselves and their families, itz unfortunate that some have to resort to criminal tactics just so they can eat. the prisons are filled with minorities who committed crimes, most of these crimes were to obtain money.

I don't care what reasons they have for breaking the law. I just think of the quickest and most efficient solution, that's to lock them all up.

Locking people up will not prevent it from happening.. The only way we will have less crime is to abolish poverty, help social development etc etc.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="shyskillz"][QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="shyskillz"]

please, you hardly hear any wealthy ppl complaning.

i know i'm going to get taxed but itz no biggie for me. i'll still be paid and i don't mind helping out my fellow country men. itz greed and selfishness that made the economy the way it is today.....or did we forget that already. or maybe theres other reasons for not voting......hmmm.

FragStains

greed is sin and it has proven to always carry bad luck. a line has to be drawn somewhere, if not then you will get what you have today. you can still become wealthy with dedication and focus but you will go nowhere if the system is broken. giving a little back to help repair whats broken will actually make me feel like a better person. i'm positive many feel the same way, this is a great country and you can not enjoy life when everyone else around you is suffering. what type of person will that make me if i did?

I understand what you are saying about helping your fellow man, but all i want is for us to be able to do that ourselves. Not coerced by the government. Let me write the check to the charity of my choice.

The government already wrote your check to big business in the form of a $700 billion dollar bail out, that both McCain and Obama voted for. Furthermore places like AIG collapsed due to greed driven stratagies.

Ok this is a gross oversimplification.. Many of these people were flat out lied to on interest rates. Where they were perfectly fine with their supposed fixed interest rates, then it turned out that it wasn't fixed and it sky rocketed.. Seriously your point is based on pure ignorance at best.

i feel you, but what other suggestions do we really have? we have to take up responsibility for our country or it will continue to go down the tubes....just like it has been doing for the last few years.

shyskillz

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="shyskillz"][QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="shyskillz"]

please, you hardly hear any wealthy ppl complaning.

i know i'm going to get taxed but itz no biggie for me. i'll still be paid and i don't mind helping out my fellow country men. itz greed and selfishness that made the economy the way it is today.....or did we forget that already. or maybe theres other reasons for not voting......hmmm.

FragStains

greed is sin and it has proven to always carry bad luck. a line has to be drawn somewhere, if not then you will get what you have today. you can still become wealthy with dedication and focus but you will go nowhere if the system is broken. giving a little back to help repair whats broken will actually make me feel like a better person. i'm positive many feel the same way, this is a great country and you can not enjoy life when everyone else around you is suffering. what type of person will that make me if i did?

I understand what you are saying about helping your fellow man, but all i want is for us to be able to do that ourselves. Not coerced by the government. Let me write the check to the charity of my choice.

The government already wrote your check to big business in the form of a $700 billion dollar bail out, that both McCain and Obama voted for. Furthermore places like AIG collapsed due to greed driven stratagies.

i agree with this somewhat but i'm sure every person that used loans do not fall into this category. yes, tougher penalties are needed.

[QUOTE="shyskillz"]

i feel you, but what other suggestions do we really have? we have to take up responsibility for our country or it will continue to go down the tubes....just like it has been doing for the last few years.

FragStains

The government is there for the common good.. People arn't, more and more do we see this with people crying with "taxes being unfair".. We are extremely selfish society based on materialist interests, while holding the dillusions that all a person needs to be successful is to work hard.

[QUOTE="LittleHands134"][QUOTE="shyskillz"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"]

Get off your moral high horses people. It's perfectly fine to not want to help out the poor, considering it's pretty much like tossing your money down a well.

They aren't going to do anything with my money but buy drugs and guns to kill eachother with. I'll keep my money, thank you very much.

Those drive by shootings you hear about, random muggings, it's all the poor doing that. What good do they do for our country? Push the homeless underground, clean up the ghettos and fill them with quality homes for people who actually make money. If the homeless try to do something, jail them.

It's not that hard, and this will make America a cleaner, happier, more family friendly place.

sSubZerOo

do you know that most of those drive buy shootings, muggings, robberies are because of having no money. c'mon, why else will they be doing this. every man wants to take care of themselves and their families, itz unfortunate that some have to resort to criminal tactics just so they can eat. the prisons are filled with minorities who committed crimes, most of these crimes were to obtain money.

I don't care what reasons they have for breaking the law. I just think of the quickest and most efficient solution, that's to lock them all up.

Locking people up will not prevent it from happening.. The only way we will have less crime is to abolish poverty, help social development etc etc.

selfish ways never did any good for anyone, do you have any solutions for todays poverty? if so please put your name on the ballot. locking someone up, making them institutionalize isn't the answer.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"][QUOTE="shyskillz"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"]

Get off your moral high horses people. It's perfectly fine to not want to help out the poor, considering it's pretty much like tossing your money down a well.

They aren't going to do anything with my money but buy drugs and guns to kill eachother with. I'll keep my money, thank you very much.

Those drive by shootings you hear about, random muggings, it's all the poor doing that. What good do they do for our country? Push the homeless underground, clean up the ghettos and fill them with quality homes for people who actually make money. If the homeless try to do something, jail them.

It's not that hard, and this will make America a cleaner, happier, more family friendly place.

shyskillz

do you know that most of those drive buy shootings, muggings, robberies are because of having no money. c'mon, why else will they be doing this. every man wants to take care of themselves and their families, itz unfortunate that some have to resort to criminal tactics just so they can eat. the prisons are filled with minorities who committed crimes, most of these crimes were to obtain money.

I don't care what reasons they have for breaking the law. I just think of the quickest and most efficient solution, that's to lock them all up.

Locking people up will not prevent it from happening.. The only way we will have less crime is to abolish poverty, help social development etc etc.

selfish ways never did any good for anyone, do you have any solutions for todays poverty? if so please put your name on the ballot. locking someone up, making them institutionalize isn't the answer.

Why not? Poor people breed more poor people. Another solution could be mandatory sterilization for people below a certain income level.

selfish ways never did any good for anyone, do you have any solutions for todays poverty? if so please put your name on the ballot. locking someone up, making them institutionalize isn't the answer.

shyskillz

I not sure I follow I was just saying the final solution to it.. I was not taking any sides on it, but going after the main roots of the problem. Poverty will unfortantely always exist the way the Untied states is.

[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="shyskillz"]

i feel you, but what other suggestions do we really have? we have to take up responsibility for our country or it will continue to go down the tubes....just like it has been doing for the last few years.

sSubZerOo

The government is there for the common good.. People arn't, more and more do we see this with people crying with "taxes being unfair".. We are extremely selfish society based on materialist interests, while holding the dillusions that all a person needs to be successful is to work hard.

[QUOTE="shyskillz"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"][QUOTE="shyskillz"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"]

Get off your moral high horses people. It's perfectly fine to not want to help out the poor, considering it's pretty much like tossing your money down a well.

They aren't going to do anything with my money but buy drugs and guns to kill eachother with. I'll keep my money, thank you very much.

Those drive by shootings you hear about, random muggings, it's all the poor doing that. What good do they do for our country? Push the homeless underground, clean up the ghettos and fill them with quality homes for people who actually make money. If the homeless try to do something, jail them.

It's not that hard, and this will make America a cleaner, happier, more family friendly place.

LittleHands134

do you know that most of those drive buy shootings, muggings, robberies are because of having no money. c'mon, why else will they be doing this. every man wants to take care of themselves and their families, itz unfortunate that some have to resort to criminal tactics just so they can eat. the prisons are filled with minorities who committed crimes, most of these crimes were to obtain money.

I don't care what reasons they have for breaking the law. I just think of the quickest and most efficient solution, that's to lock them all up.

Locking people up will not prevent it from happening.. The only way we will have less crime is to abolish poverty, help social development etc etc.

selfish ways never did any good for anyone, do you have any solutions for todays poverty? if so please put your name on the ballot. locking someone up, making them institutionalize isn't the answer.

Why not? Poor people breed more poor people. Another solution could be mandatory sterilization for people below a certain income level.

lol, okay i'll let it be at that. jesus...

Can we please ignore the guy who's saying that we should catch all the poor people, grind them up and turn them into dog food?

Really, as the saying goes, "don't feed the trolls".

It's not gonna happen, he knows it's not gonna happen, he knows that everyone else finds what he's saying to be morally repugnant. He'd might as well be a KKK member who's saying that we should arrest blacks, just to get a rise out of you guys.

Just ignore him. Don't take the bait.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="shyskillz"]

i feel you, but what other suggestions do we really have? we have to take up responsibility for our country or it will continue to go down the tubes....just like it has been doing for the last few years.

FragStains

The government is there for the common good.. People arn't, more and more do we see this with people crying with "taxes being unfair".. We are extremely selfish society based on materialist interests, while holding the dillusions that all a person needs to be successful is to work hard.

Being fortante in being born into a situation that is for your benefit.. You think Bush would have made it to president as a C student if he were born in a poor family? People some how think that all it takes is hard work to be very sucessful, I believe these people to be absolutely ignorant to history and to not know what they are talking about.. Working hard is just one thing of many pieces that took many people to be successful, it does not garentee you to be successful.. ANd I think its absolutely nieve to suggest thats all it takes.. When we have middle and poor class struggling who work extremely hard to make ends meat.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"]

[QUOTE="darkmistx"]I beleive he's talking about Obama's spreading the wealth ideology. LittleHands134

Ooooh.

To TC: It's my money, I don't care if they're starving.

If anyone asked me, I'd say that I care. But when it comes time to actually do something about it, my money is staying with me, not going to some ghetto to fuel a 20 year old woman's drug addiction.

[QUOTE="shyskillz"]

selfish ways never did any good for anyone, do you have any solutions for todays poverty? if so please put your name on the ballot. locking someone up, making them institutionalize isn't the answer.

sSubZerOo

I not sure I follow I was just saying the final solution to it.. I was not taking any sides on it, but going after the main roots of the problem. Poverty will unfortantely always exist the way the Untied states is.

better learning environments for the poorer class will do wonders. men and women get caught up in crime because of crappy school systems ( overcrowded, inadequate teaching curriculum's ) and home nurturing is crappy too due to the father being locked up because of criming for dollars or killed in the streets fighting for dollars, which leaves the single mother with 2 to 3 jobs working for crumbs while the child is out learning how to survive the hard way......i guess you just have to be a part of it atleast once in your life to understand that it is real and sad. and when others don't care then they don't care because itz not like they are playing on an even field. instincts kick in when you are starving and struggling to survive....

...and just how much money does it take for one (including ones immediate family) to live comfortably? Furthermore, just how many of you are so selfish as to cast off your fellow human being because greed, superficial power, and money means more to you than humanity itself?smegburt

Well, if you don't like money then I'm afraid you are out of luck. It's kind of like oxygen...or food. If there wasn't currency, then there would be some other "thing" to hold value...

Define comfortably. I know people in parts of Africa who have a very different concept of "comfortable" than Europeans, Americans..

Finally, I'm not sure how many Americans value money more than human life, but my guess is it's roughly the same proportion of the population of virtually every other society in human history. I guess I just don't think "greed" is unique to contemporary America.

Maybe if you would come out of hiding and name the Utopia that you live in than I would be able to give you a better reply.