So... Just had a chat with the boss today...

First a little back-story... I work at Walmart as a cashier... Our ZMS (basically the supervisor over one of the zones of the store) left a few months ago and seeing as it's the highest paid position in the store (besides the salaried managers) nearly everyone qualifying applied for that position myself included.

I already lived in a different city but after getting my apartment I now live 2 cities over... I drive about an hour to and from work... So as I was going to put in a transfer request the current ZMS told me she was leaving and asked if I wanted her job...

So of-course I decided to hold off on my transfer(I already applied for her job months before as a precaution if she ever got fired)... All of my supervisors told me they thought I was the best for the job and that they'd push for me getting it(except the one that also wanted the job)

After learning more about the transfer process I decided to go ahead and put in my request seeing as it usually takes months before they get those sorted out...

So everyone has interviewed except for me and they all sucked far too much to get the job... I knew I was a shoe-in... Being just made employee of the month in march, getting perfect performance reviews in February, receiving a Walmart pendent for being awesome at my job, having my picture put on display in the store for being the best at my job, and the manager making an award poster in honor of me being great...

Today the manager called me into his office and I'm hyped because it's finally my chance... And he tells me the manager at the store I put in my transfer request for called and asked about me... So I told him that it was only an option and I'd rather stay they as the new ZMS... He went over how great I was and they said "I have no doubt that you could do that job but it wouldn't be fair to the others(that didn't get that job) if a (lowly) cashier got promoted that many levels(5 job levels)"He said after the holiday he'd talk to the manager again and try to get it setup...

I'm livid!!! I'm basically the most qualified current associate but the only thing holding me back is his OK... I'm technically able to bypass the experience because I have my associates degrees so I am actually qualified... I think this is BS but I am biased because it's me...

What do you think OT is this BS or am I really doomed by my lack of years being a Walmart slave?

I don't mean this to sound the wrong way but, welcome to retail. I have a bachelors degree and I haven't even gotten a $.50 raise yet at my job. As much as it sucks, any kind of advancement in retail is typically extremely slow if it happens at all. Have you considered applying to the position from outside if they won't jump you that many spots from within?

I don't mean this to sound the wrong way but, welcome to retail. I have a bachelors degree and I haven't even gotten a $.50 raise yet at my job. As much as it sucks, any kind of advancement in retail is typically extremely slow if it happens at all.

Pirate700

Um... you're a CASHIER. You may have a degree but you don't have the seniority or rank in the store to get there. You're not going to get that kind of job until you move up through the ranks as CSM, department supervisor, etc. and then finally something like that. The manager is absolutely right, you as a cashier should not get that job. It sucks, but that's how it is. You don't jump from the bottom to the top of the ladder like that, especially not in retail.XilePrincess

Edit: and I do qualify for the job... One amazing year shoiuld trump 3 mediocre years...

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Um... you're a CASHIER. You may have a degree but you don't have the seniority or rank in the store to get there. You're not going to get that kind of job until you move up through the ranks as CSM, department supervisor, etc. and then finally something like that. The manager is absolutely right, you as a cashier should not get that job. It sucks, but that's how it is. You don't jump from the bottom to the top of the ladder like that, especially not in retail.jeremiah06

First a little back-story... I work at Walmart as a cashier... Our ZMS (basically the supervisor over one of the zones of the store) left a few months ago and seeing as it's the highest paid position in the store (besides the salaried managers) nearly everyone qualifying applied for that position myself included.

I already lived in a different city but after getting my apartment I now live 2 cities over... I drive about an hour to and from work... So as I was going to put in a transfer request the current ZMS told me she was leaving and asked if I wanted her job...

So of-course I decided to hold off on my transfer(I already applied for her job months before as a precaution if she ever got fired)... All of my supervisors told me they thought I was the best for the job and that they'd push for me getting it(except the one that also wanted the job)

After learning more about the transfer process I decided to go ahead and put in my request seeing as it usually takes months before they get those sorted out...

So everyone has interviewed except for me and they all sucked far too much to get the job... I knew I was a shoe-in... Being just made employee of the month in march, getting perfect performance reviews in February, receiving a Walmart pendent for being awesome at my job, having my picture put on display in the store for being the best at my job, and the manager making an award poster in honor of me being great...

 

Today the manager called me into his office and I'm hyped because it's finally my chance... And he tells me the manager at the store I put in my transfer request for called and asked about me... So I told him that it was only an option and I'd rather stay they as the new ZMS... He went over how great I was and they said "I have no doubt that you could do that job but it wouldn't be fair to the others(that didn't get that job) if a (lowly) cashier got promoted that many levels(5 job levels)"He said after the holiday he'd talk to the manager again and try to get it setup...

 

I'm livid!!! I'm basically the most qualified current associate but the only thing holding me back is his OK... I'm technically able to bypass the experience because I have my associates degrees so I am actually qualified... I think this is BS but I am biased because it's me...

What do you think OT is this BS or am I really doomed by my lack of years being a Walmart slave?

jeremiah06

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Um... you're a CASHIER. You may have a degree but you don't have the seniority or rank in the store to get there. You're not going to get that kind of job until you move up through the ranks as CSM, department supervisor, etc. and then finally something like that. The manager is absolutely right, you as a cashier should not get that job. It sucks, but that's how it is. You don't jump from the bottom to the top of the ladder like that, especially not in retail.jeremiah06

Edit: and I do qualify for the job... One amazing year shoiuld trump 3 mediocre years...

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Um... you're a CASHIER. You may have a degree but you don't have the seniority or rank in the store to get there. You're not going to get that kind of job until you move up through the ranks as CSM, department supervisor, etc. and then finally something like that. The manager is absolutely right, you as a cashier should not get that job. It sucks, but that's how it is. You don't jump from the bottom to the top of the ladder like that, especially not in retail.Pirate700

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"]

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ZionismFTW

[QUOTE="ZionismFTW"][QUOTE="jeremiah06"]

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jeremiah06

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Um... you're a CASHIER. You may have a degree but you don't have the seniority or rank in the store to get there. You're not going to get that kind of job until you move up through the ranks as CSM, department supervisor, etc. and then finally something like that. The manager is absolutely right, you as a cashier should not get that job. It sucks, but that's how it is. You don't jump from the bottom to the top of the ladder like that, especially not in retail.Pirate700

Not to sound callus or anything, but deal with it. You work at a f***ing Walmart, what do you expect? Besides, what makes you think you are the most qualified? Sure, you did great as a cashier and the management seems to like you, but from what I can tell you have zero experience at any level of management. Why should you get to jump the que? You should have to work your way up the ladder like everyone else. If you are as qualified as you say, you should progress in no time.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"] SO ability doesn't matter? They'd rather hire some untested person from the outside than someone they know can get the job done?jeremiah06

Not to sound callus or anything, but deal with it. You work at a f***ing Walmart, what do you expect? Besides, what makes you think you are the most qualified? Sure, you did great as a cashier and the management seems to like you, but from what I can tell you have zero experience at any level of management. Why should you get to jump the que? You should have to work your way up the ladder like everyone else. If you are as qualified as you say, you should progress in no time.

redstorm72

Edit: also the job isn't management... It's a supervisory position... and I've taken the actually management test and got nearly a perfect score...

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]It may sound silly, but if they have a system in place, I'm sure they have to follow it. Again, in retail, advancement is extremely slow, if it ever happens. If you want a managerial job, you often times have to be hired into it. That's why I said you might want to try applying to the job (there or another store) from the outside instead of from within.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

Not to sound callus or anything, but deal with it. You work at a f***ing Walmart, what do you expect? Besides, what makes you think you are the most qualified? Sure, you did great as a cashier and the management seems to like you, but from what I can tell you have zero experience at any level of management. Why should you get to jump the que? You should have to work your way up the ladder like everyone else. If you are as qualified as you say, you should progress in no time.

jeremiah06

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"] I could only do that if I quit first... Working there when you apply you have to tell them you work there...jeremiah06

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="redstorm72"]

Not to sound callus or anything, but deal with it. You work at a f***ing Walmart, what do you expect? Besides, what makes you think you are the most qualified? Sure, you did great as a cashier and the management seems to like you, but from what I can tell you have zero experience at any level of management. Why should you get to jump the que? You should have to work your way up the ladder like everyone else. If you are as qualified as you say, you should progress in no time.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"] The thing is... The people already working as ZMS's in different departments all suck at their jobs... You find them slacking off or just being lazy any chance they get... Everyone else that applied for the job were the same... I'm literally the only person trying out for this job that isn't a slacker... They constantly put me in other positions because they know I'll get it done... If he had to trying and break rules I'd agree with you... If there were guidelines in place tying his hands I'd understand... But the only reason he can come up with to not hire me is everyone else being jealous... jeremiah06

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

Not to sound callus or anything, but deal with it. You work at a f***ing Walmart, what do you expect? Besides, what makes you think you are the most qualified? Sure, you did great as a cashier and the management seems to like you, but from what I can tell you have zero experience at any level of management. Why should you get to jump the que? You should have to work your way up the ladder like everyone else. If you are as qualified as you say, you should progress in no time.

jeremiah06

Well, that does stink a bit. Really though, its retail, there isn't much you can do. Like others have said, the only real way out is to apply for a higher position at a different store/business chain. Either that or let your job crush your soul like me (I've worked my but off at a restaurant for 3 years at minimum wage and my boss still treats me like a retarded monkey).

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"] The thing is... The people already working as ZMS's in different departments all suck at their jobs... You find them slacking off or just being lazy any chance they get... Everyone else that applied for the job were the same... I'm literally the only person trying out for this job that isn't a slacker... They constantly put me in other positions because they know I'll get it done... If he had to trying and break rules I'd agree with you... If there were guidelines in place tying his hands I'd understand... But the only reason he can come up with to not hire me is everyone else being jealous... jeremiah06

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]No offense dude, but I'm getting a lot of - "I'm awsome and everyone else suck" from your posts...

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"] Yeah it just happened today so I'm still pissed but it's basically how they treat me... It's great to use me to get the job done for free but when it actually comes time to pay me I'm inexperienced...ZionismFTW

No offense dude, but I'm getting a lot of - "I'm awsome and everyone else suck" from your posts...

BranKetra

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"] Yeah it just happened today so I'm still pissed but it's basically how they treat me... It's great to use me to get the job done for free but when it actually comes time to pay me I'm inexperienced...ZionismFTW

[QUOTE="ZionismFTW"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]The fact of the matter is, you're a Walmart cashier. You may very well be an excellent employee, but cashiers are at the bottom of the totem pole in a gigantic company. To them, you are there to be a cashier and that's it. I, as sales staff, get treated like just a number at my store also. That's just working at retail for you.

jeremiah06

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="ZionismFTW"] I disagree. If you show value and have good management (a big 'if', I know, and it seems jeremiah06's manager isn't that great), you get recognised as an asset to be groomed for growth. Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"] He's not that bad he's just one of those "C is still a passing grade" kinda people... He doesn't try to get to higher levels he's happy as long as everything is normal...jeremiah06

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]lol are you serious with the personal attacks, dude? I'm giving you honest advice. In retail, it's not easy to get into managerial positions unless you're hired into them. That's not settling for mediocrity.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Um... you're a CASHIER. You may have a degree but you don't have the seniority or rank in the store to get there. You're not going to get that kind of job until you move up through the ranks as CSM, department supervisor, etc. and then finally something like that. The manager is absolutely right, you as a cashier should not get that job. It sucks, but that's how it is. You don't jump from the bottom to the top of the ladder like that, especially not in retail.jeremiah06

Edit: and I do qualify for the job... One amazing year shoiuld trump 3 mediocre years...

Ok buddy- I have the solution. You work at wallyworld- you need to hide the 9mm,45acp and 223 and buy it all for yourself. Then go and resell it locally or on Gunbroker

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Um... you're a CASHIER. You may have a degree but you don't have the seniority or rank in the store to get there. You're not going to get that kind of job until you move up through the ranks as CSM, department supervisor, etc. and then finally something like that. The manager is absolutely right, you as a cashier should not get that job. It sucks, but that's how it is. You don't jump from the bottom to the top of the ladder like that, especially not in retail.Rattlesnake_8

Not only that, but being competent, reliable or otherwise a good employee in a position with ridiculous turn over is actually going to hurt any future attempts to move up that far at once. IMO, you'll have to kiss some ass and put a bit more time in to reach dpt super.

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"]

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Um... you're a CASHIER. You may have a degree but you don't have the seniority or rank in the store to get there. You're not going to get that kind of job until you move up through the ranks as CSM, department supervisor, etc. and then finally something like that. The manager is absolutely right, you as a cashier should not get that job. It sucks, but that's how it is. You don't jump from the bottom to the top of the ladder like that, especially not in retail.XilePrincess

Edit: and I do qualify for the job... One amazing year shoiuld trump 3 mediocre years...

oh and I promise you if I asked to start doing the job for free as (training) they'd do it in a heartbeat close out the job and force me to do it everyday as a cashier... Thats why I wasn't made CSM there we've had a cashier doing that for nearly a year still making the same pay as me...

Ok buddy- I have the solution. You work at wallyworld- you need to hide the 9mm,45acp and 223 and buy it all for yourself. Then go and resell it locally or on Gunbroker

consoletroll

First a little back-story... I work at Walmart as a cashier... Our ZMS (basically the supervisor over one of the zones of the store) left a few months ago and seeing as it's the highest paid position in the store (besides the salaried managers) nearly everyone qualifying applied for that position myself included.

I already lived in a different city but after getting my apartment I now live 2 cities over... I drive about an hour to and from work... So as I was going to put in a transfer request the current ZMS told me she was leaving and asked if I wanted her job...

So of-course I decided to hold off on my transfer(I already applied for her job months before as a precaution if she ever got fired)... All of my supervisors told me they thought I was the best for the job and that they'd push for me getting it(except the one that also wanted the job)

After learning more about the transfer process I decided to go ahead and put in my request seeing as it usually takes months before they get those sorted out...

So everyone has interviewed except for me and they all sucked far too much to get the job... I knew I was a shoe-in... Being just made employee of the month in march, getting perfect performance reviews in February, receiving a Walmart pendent for being awesome at my job, having my picture put on display in the store for being the best at my job, and the manager making an award poster in honor of me being great...

 

Today the manager called me into his office and I'm hyped because it's finally my chance... And he tells me the manager at the store I put in my transfer request for called and asked about me... So I told him that it was only an option and I'd rather stay they as the new ZMS... He went over how great I was and they said "I have no doubt that you could do that job but it wouldn't be fair to the others(that didn't get that job) if a (lowly) cashier got promoted that many levels(5 job levels)"He said after the holiday he'd talk to the manager again and try to get it setup...

 

I'm livid!!! I'm basically the most qualified current associate but the only thing holding me back is his OK... I'm technically able to bypass the experience because I have my associates degrees so I am actually qualified... I think this is BS but I am biased because it's me...

What do you think OT is this BS or am I really doomed by my lack of years being a Walmart slave?

jeremiah06

Your first mistake was working at wal-mart.

I don't mean this to sound the wrong way but, welcome to retail. I have a bachelors degree and I haven't even gotten a $.50 raise yet at my job. As much as it sucks, any kind of advancement in retail is typically extremely slow if it happens at all. Have you considered applying to the position from outside if they won't jump you that many spots from within?

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't mean this to sound the wrong way but, welcome to retail. I have a bachelors degree and I haven't even gotten a $.50 raise yet at my job. As much as it sucks, any kind of advancement in retail is typically extremely slow if it happens at all. Have you considered applying to the position from outside if they won't jump you that many spots from within?

mattbbpl

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't mean this to sound the wrong way but, welcome to retail. I have a bachelors degree and I haven't even gotten a $.50 raise yet at my job. As much as it sucks, any kind of advancement in retail is typically extremely slow if it happens at all. Have you considered applying to the position from outside if they won't jump you that many spots from within?

Pirate700

Perhaps you should try to apply to some position above your current one, but lower than the one you were talking about. This way you get a promotion and could use that to learn more skills and otherwise gain experience that could strengthen your credentials for that position the next time it becomes vacant.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"] You're in retail? What do you do?mattbbpl

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Salesman at a sporting goods store. Fun products but it's pretty tiring as we have to haul equipment and climb up and down ladders all day to get shit. It's closer to a manual labor job than a traditional retail job. :P

Pirate700