nobody will be his girlfriend if he keeps trying to kill himself
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thanks for the help I'm going to talk to someone at my school. Hopefully they can do something
[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]
True..i tend to think his friend won't go through with the act...he's "failed" multiple times already..that doesn't scream "i want to kill myself" to me..
Unless he's handicapped mentally or physically he would have killed himself already by now..if he did indeed want to..
airshocker
Believe me, I couldn't care less if the kid succeeded or not, I'm just trying to save the OP some pain if his friend is legitimately suicidal.
But seriously, how hard is it to tie a hangman's noose?
It's really rather easy to mess up a noose when you're telling people you're suicidal.[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]
True..i tend to think his friend won't go through with the act...he's "failed" multiple times already..that doesn't scream "i want to kill myself" to me..
Unless he's handicapped mentally or physically he would have killed himself already by now..if he did indeed want to..
airshocker
Believe me, I couldn't care less if the kid succeeded or not, I'm just trying to save the OP some pain if his friend is legitimately suicidal.
But seriously, how hard is it to tie a hangman's noose?
Hanging is not the only way to kill yourself..my English professor had a friend who jumped out of a 3 story window or something like that onto the pavement..there's severing your arteries..suffocation..jumping off a rooftop..drowning..and a host of other methods...which further proves that the kid really doesn't want to kill himself because he would have used a different method had the 1st on not worked..you don't legitimately FAIL to kill yourself more then once..and even one time is a stretch.. If suicide was so difficult then you'd see the suicide rate drop..because people would be failing at it pretty often.. As i said...if he wanted to legitimately kill himself he would have succeeded..he also would not have told anyone his plan to kill himself unless he wanted eitherA. Attention OR B. Someone to stop him
Regarding this discussion on whether TC's friend is 'serious' or not, or whether suicide is difficult or not.. It actually is quite hard to kill yourself. The human body is very strong and resilient. Any and every method has potential for failure. People think that shooting yourself in the face/head is foolproof, but it's not. Neither is hanging yourself, nor overdorsing, nor slitting your wrists, nor jumping off a building, etc. The human body is built to survive and rebel against all attacks. I'm not even taking willpower into consideration - killing yourself is a rather difficult task, and even VERY SERIOUSLY suicidal people fail. Suicide is something that should NOT be taken lightly. Even suicidal ideation should not be taken lightly. There is a serious problem if you are truly considering killing yourself, and there's a serious problem if you make an attempt. It disgusts me when people sit around and belittle others for attempting to kill themselves and failing. Suicide is a very serious, touchy, and complex issue, and it does nothing to help others if you just sit around and make fun of them. You can have low opinions of people who kill themselves ("cowards, "selfish," etc. - though I HIGHLY, HIGHLY disagree), but to belittle someone who is quite clearly struggling a lot is just disgusting. t3hrubikscube
Never said there was a guaranteed success rate..if you want to kill yourself chances are you will..are there exceptions?..Yes, but failing multiple times then suggesting you're going to try it again 4 years LATER?..Come on now...that doesn't exactly sound serious..nor am i "belittling" the person in question..
I AM questioning the sincerity of his claim to be suicidal though..
[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]Regarding this discussion on whether TC's friend is 'serious' or not, or whether suicide is difficult or not.. It actually is quite hard to kill yourself. The human body is very strong and resilient. Any and every method has potential for failure. People think that shooting yourself in the face/head is foolproof, but it's not. Neither is hanging yourself, nor overdorsing, nor slitting your wrists, nor jumping off a building, etc. The human body is built to survive and rebel against all attacks. I'm not even taking willpower into consideration - killing yourself is a rather difficult task, and even VERY SERIOUSLY suicidal people fail. Suicide is something that should NOT be taken lightly. Even suicidal ideation should not be taken lightly. There is a serious problem if you are truly considering killing yourself, and there's a serious problem if you make an attempt. It disgusts me when people sit around and belittle others for attempting to kill themselves and failing. Suicide is a very serious, touchy, and complex issue, and it does nothing to help others if you just sit around and make fun of them. You can have low opinions of people who kill themselves ("cowards, "selfish," etc. - though I HIGHLY, HIGHLY disagree), but to belittle someone who is quite clearly struggling a lot is just disgusting. Xx_Hopeless_xX
Never said there was a guaranteed success rate..if you want to kill yourself chances are you will..are there exceptions?..Yes, but failing multiple times then suggesting you're going to try it again 4 years LATER?..Come on now...that doesn't exactly sound serious..
I think you've entirely missed the point of my post. Whether or not you think that the person is "serious," it is still a big deal and it shows that there are a lot of internal struggles that could turn out to be lethal someday. Ignoring someone's problems because you don't think that they're "serious" enough can be highly detrimental and it's quite honestly very presumptuous, rude, and arrogant of you to get on your high horse and assume that they're not serious just because they've failed. Like I said before, it's incredibly difficult to kill yourself, just on a physical level. Most suicidal people don't actually want their lives to end. They just want whatever is bothering them to stop, and they just want to feel better. That doesn't mean that suicidal people should be ignored or treated badly, however. There's obviously a lot going wrong if someone is thinking of or attempting to end their existence. People say this all the time with cutting - "oh, they are just looking for attention" or "that's not a serious problem" - but what does that actually do? If someone is going to such great lengths, even if only for attention, there is STILL quite obviously something very wrong that should be addressed. I take all forms of mental illness or instability very seriously. I guess not everyone shares that sentiment and would rather sit idly by and mock others who are struggling.Dude you should tell his parents if he's had actual attempts before, like right now. If he's telling you, its obvious that deep down part of him knows that his thoughts aren't rational and he's looking for someone to feed him exactly that. He's still there. He probably needs someone to be there for him and tell him that he's going to be fine. (Well not fine. Nobody's fine. But atleast that things aren't that bad after all.)
As for the mentally ill/severely depressed thing, he could be, or could not. It's dangerous to jump to conclusions. Like another poster has stated, only mental health professionals should be allowed to posit such theories.
I don't like thinking about this particular subject in general.
You said you highly disagreed with the concept that suicidal people are selfish. Care to explore into that?SymphonycomethSure. Your existence is your own. I don't believe in a higher power, and I believe that all life is essentially pointless. I don't believe in a meaning to life. If someone wants to die by suicide, then that's their choice and they shouldn't have to sit around and contemplate everyone else's feelings. Of course it might affect other people. Of course other people might be sad or angry or devastated, but why should those people assume that everyone else should have to look out for them? Not everyone lives for other people - some only live for themselves or for other reasons. If someone is struggling so badly that they really want to end it all, it's, in my opinion, quite honestly selfish of everyone else to expect that person to keep living if they don't want to, since existence must be incredibly painful for them if they want to die so badly. I don't condone or encourage suicide, but rather I don't hold it against someone if they choose to end their life. Another different argument that I could make is as follows: I know of a statistic that says at least 90% of all people who've died by suicide had some form of mental illness. If they weren't right in the mind or were suffering from chemical imbalances, they weren't acting completely of their own accord and it's not necessarily their 'fault' (if you want to assign blame).
I have a few friends who are suicidal, I've manage to stop them each time by saying that if they go threw with it, I wont be able to save the world from global warming, so really them killing themselves is killing the world. Nah Im just kidding, though I do have a few and I have manage to stop them. Just have a talk with him. Tell him how he is important to you and others (when you are saying he is important to you, dont make it sound like you love him, unless you do...). Tell him that killing himself isnt going to help anything.
[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]Regarding this discussion on whether TC's friend is 'serious' or not, or whether suicide is difficult or not.. It actually is quite hard to kill yourself. The human body is very strong and resilient. Any and every method has potential for failure. People think that shooting yourself in the face/head is foolproof, but it's not. Neither is hanging yourself, nor overdorsing, nor slitting your wrists, nor jumping off a building, etc. The human body is built to survive and rebel against all attacks. I'm not even taking willpower into consideration - killing yourself is a rather difficult task, and even VERY SERIOUSLY suicidal people fail. Suicide is something that should NOT be taken lightly. Even suicidal ideation should not be taken lightly. There is a serious problem if you are truly considering killing yourself, and there's a serious problem if you make an attempt. It disgusts me when people sit around and belittle others for attempting to kill themselves and failing. Suicide is a very serious, touchy, and complex issue, and it does nothing to help others if you just sit around and make fun of them. You can have low opinions of people who kill themselves ("cowards, "selfish," etc. - though I HIGHLY, HIGHLY disagree), but to belittle someone who is quite clearly struggling a lot is just disgusting. t3hrubikscube
Never said there was a guaranteed success rate..if you want to kill yourself chances are you will..are there exceptions?..Yes, but failing multiple times then suggesting you're going to try it again 4 years LATER?..Come on now...that doesn't exactly sound serious..
I think you've entirely missed the point of my post. Whether or not you think that the person is "serious," it is still a big deal and it shows that there are a lot of internal struggles that could turn out to be lethal someday. Ignoring someone's problems because you don't think that they're "serious" enough can be highly detrimental and it's quite honestly very presumptuous, rude, and arrogant of you to get on your high horse and assume that they're not serious just because they've failed. Like I said before, it's incredibly difficult to kill yourself, just on a physical level. Most suicidal people don't actually want their lives to end. They just want whatever is bothering them to stop, and they just want to feel better. That doesn't mean that suicidal people should be ignored or treated badly, however. There's obviously a lot going wrong if someone is thinking of or attempting to end their existence. People say this all the time with cutting - "oh, they are just looking for attention" or "that's not a serious problem" - but what does that actually do? If someone is going to such great lengths, even if only for attention, there is STILL quite obviously something very wrong that should be addressed. I take all forms of mental illness or instability very seriously. I guess not everyone shares that sentiment and would rather sit idly by and mock others who are struggling.Where is the mockery here?..
Look at his history..he failed not ONE time but MULTIPLE times..
I never said that his claims should be disregarded..just that he may not be serious..which as i said in my edit...i am not belittling the person in question..i am questioning his motives/sincerity..
I really don't think you should be the one presuming i don't know what it's like/how people in that situation feel..or that i'm on a high horse and what not..i'm looking at it from a different standpoint perhaps?..
You're taking the stance that my posts are ones of mockery/ posts meant to belitle the individual in question when they're nothing of the like..as i said before, i'm questioning his motives for telling his friend as well as how it's possible to fail NUMEROUS times at killing oneself...you'd think someone would have noticed he had a problem..i guess everyone by him is totally oblivious to the world around them except this ONE friend?..
If it was a mental illness should it not have been adressed 4 years prior when he allegedly "failed" multiple times to kill himself?..
Which leads me to another question...why is there a 4 year gap?..What changed in that period of time?..Why all of a sudden does he want to "kill himself" again..?
Is there something wrong?..Yes..
is it a mental illness?..Possibly..
Should it be adressed?..Yes..
Again, why has it not been adressed when/if he failed multiple, not once as you seem to be leaning towards..but multiple times..
Suicidal intentions can be born from a plethora of different issues as well.. if he really wanted to kill himself why would he be telling someone who has the ability to stop it?..As you said in your post...they just want whatever is hurting them to stop..so how about we find out what's hurting him before we jump on the mental illness wagon?..
Talk to him! Tell him how much his friendship means to you and just his presence in general. Tell him how much he means to his other friends and family too. Also try to show him that eventhough it might seem like there's nothing left for him and that his dreams seem to have been shattered, that there's still time. He can follow those dreams eventhough it seems like they've been shattered (not sure what his dreams were), and that there's always new dreams to follow. And tell him it's not too late for him to find a girlfriend either.
I'd also consider telling his parents so they can try talking to him also, and look out for him when you can't.
When I was seriously considering suicide, music is what saved me. Literally.
I'd recommend showing him some good inspirational music to get his mind off of himself. Or at least, to realize that he is loved.
ie this song...
"You're Not Alone" - Saosin
[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"]You said you highly disagreed with the concept that suicidal people are selfish. Care to explore into that?t3hrubikscube==Snip== But isn't looking out for yourself in such a manner as suicide the very essence of selfishness? It can be argued and even agreed upon that the other end are also being selfish, but even so, if the suicidal person is looking out for themselves with little to no disregard for the feelings of their loved ones, does that not count as a form of selfishness?
Where is the mockery here?..
Look at his history..he failed not ONE time but MULTIPLE times..
I never said that his claims should be disregarded..just that he may not be serious..which as i said in my edit...i am not belittling the person in question..i am questioning his motives/sincerity..
I really don't think you should be the one presuming i don't know what it's like/how people in that situation feel..or that i'm on a high horse and what not..i'm looking at it from a different standpoint perhaps?..
You're taking the stance that my posts are ones of mockery/ posts meant to belitle the individual in question when they're nothing of the like..as i said before, i'm questioning his motives for telling his friend as well as how it's possible to fail NUMEROUS times at killing oneself...you'd think someone would have noticed he had a problem..i guess everyone by him is totally oblivious to the world around them except this ONE friend?..
If it was a mental illness should it not have been adressed 4 years prior when he allegedly "failed" multiple times to kill himself?..
Which leads me to another question...why is there a 4 year gap?..What changed in that period of time?..Why all of a sudden does he want to "kill himself" again..?
Is there something wrong?..Yes..
is it a mental illness?..Possibly..
Should it be adressed?..Yes..
Again, why has it not been adressed when/if he failed multiple, not once as you seem to be leaning towards..but multiple times..
Suicidal intentions can be born from a plethora of different issues as well.. if he really wanted to kill himself why would he be telling someone who has the ability to stop it?..As you said in your post...they just want whatever is hurting them to stop..so how about we find out what's hurting him before we jump on the mental illness wagon?.
Xx_Hopeless_xX
My first post wasn't even directed toward you, so I'm not sure why you decided to involve yourself in the first place. I was making a general post the first time - hence why I didn't quote anyone.
I am not claiming that TC's friend has a mental illness. Notice that I also said mental instability, which is vastly different and affects everyone at some point in their lives. I also told another poster to NOT encourage TC's friend that he has a mental illness. It's not something that should be handed out left and right or taken lightly. Surely it's a possibility, but I never once claimed that TC's friend is mentally ill. Not everyone who has thoughts of suicide or attempts suicide is mentally ill, though the vast majority of successful suicides do involve someone who had a form of mental illness.
My whole point is that it shouldn't be taken lightly. It irritates me when people try to judge the validity of someone's personal inner struggles. TC is worried about his friend, and I can understand why. End of story.
[QUOTE="LaytonsCat"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] You said 'a bunch of times' You don't 'try' and kill yourself a bunch of times. You either do or you don't (there can be 1...maybe 2 botched attempts...but not a 'bunch')rawsavon
this guy isn't the smartest I could see him messing it up. I guess it would take awhile afterwards to bulid up the courage to try again
Then why did you say he tried a 'bunch' of times :? Most kids that atempt suicide are not realy trying to kill themselfs but to draw atention to themselfs... Plus most are just going trough a phase so they are not realy 100% certain they wanna die... Personaly, I would try to get him to go out more, get some friends, have a fun time etc.[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]
Where is the mockery here?..
Look at his history..he failed not ONE time but MULTIPLE times..
I never said that his claims should be disregarded..just that he may not be serious..which as i said in my edit...i am not belittling the person in question..i am questioning his motives/sincerity..
I really don't think you should be the one presuming i don't know what it's like/how people in that situation feel..or that i'm on a high horse and what not..i'm looking at it from a different standpoint perhaps?..
You're taking the stance that my posts are ones of mockery/ posts meant to belitle the individual in question when they're nothing of the like..as i said before, i'm questioning his motives for telling his friend as well as how it's possible to fail NUMEROUS times at killing oneself...you'd think someone would have noticed he had a problem..i guess everyone by him is totally oblivious to the world around them except this ONE friend?..
If it was a mental illness should it not have been adressed 4 years prior when he allegedly "failed" multiple times to kill himself?..
Which leads me to another question...why is there a 4 year gap?..What changed in that period of time?..Why all of a sudden does he want to "kill himself" again..?
Is there something wrong?..Yes..
is it a mental illness?..Possibly..
Should it be adressed?..Yes..
Again, why has it not been adressed when/if he failed multiple, not once as you seem to be leaning towards..but multiple times..
Suicidal intentions can be born from a plethora of different issues as well.. if he really wanted to kill himself why would he be telling someone who has the ability to stop it?..As you said in your post...they just want whatever is hurting them to stop..so how about we find out what's hurting him before we jump on the mental illness wagon?.
t3hrubikscube
My first post wasn't even directed toward you, so I'm not sure why you decided to involve yourself in the first place. I was making a general post the first time - hence why I didn't quote anyone.
I am not claiming that TC's friend has a mental illness. Notice that I also said mental instability, which is vastly different and affects everyone at some point in their lives. I also told another poster to NOT encourage TC's friend that he has a mental illness. It's not something that should be handed out left and right or taken lightly. Surely it's a possibility, but I never once claimed that TC's friend is mentally ill. Not everyone who has thoughts of suicide or attempts suicide is mentally ill, though the vast majority of successful suicides do involve someone who had a form of mental illness.
My whole point is that it shouldn't be taken lightly. It irritates me when people try to judge the validity of someone's personal inner struggles. TC is worried about his friend, and I can understand why. End of story.
I assumed you meant mental illness, my bad.
I also assumed you directed your original post at me because it was pretty much the subject of my posts..
"It irritates me when people try to judge the validity of someone's personal inner struggles." Same here..
It also irritates me when people say they want to kill themselves just for attention..because the people that really intend to will not be taken seriously..same thing with the people who cut their wrists..
Also, look at the kid's history..you don't just fail multiple times..even the most unintelligent being on earth could kill himself...even our pre-human ancestors had the ability to kill themsleves....and you don't tell someone who has the abiltity and desire to stop you from killing yourself that you want to kill yourself if you intend to kill yourself..
I don't deny that he may be experiencing inner troubles..but his claim doesn't seem to be supported by anything other than frustration with his situation in life..
I assumed you meant mental illness, my bad.
I also assumed you directed your original post at me because it was pretty much the subject of my posts..
"It irritates me when people try to judge the validity of someone's personal inner struggles." Same here..
Then Again, look at the kid's history..you don't just fail multiple times...and you don't tell someone who has the abiltity and desire to stop you from killing yourself that you want to kill yourself if you intend to kill yourself..
I don't deny that he may be experiencing inner troubles..but his claim doesn't seem to be supported by anything other than frustration with his situation in life..
Xx_Hopeless_xX
I agree that it's probably likely that TC's friend does not actually want to end his life, but rather would like some support or attention. Quite obviously he feels badly about something in life, so he's experiencing some suicidal ideation of some degree.
I guess my entire point is that it doesn't really matter how 'serious' the person seems. The chance of how likely it is for them to actually attempt suicide and/or succeed isn't really what matters the most. If there's such internal struggle that suicide is even an option, there's a problem that should be addressed. Ignoring it or brushing it off simply because it doesn't SEEM likely won't do any good.
[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]
I assumed you meant mental illness, my bad.
I also assumed you directed your original post at me because it was pretty much the subject of my posts..
"It irritates me when people try to judge the validity of someone's personal inner struggles." Same here..
Then Again, look at the kid's history..you don't just fail multiple times...and you don't tell someone who has the abiltity and desire to stop you from killing yourself that you want to kill yourself if you intend to kill yourself..
I don't deny that he may be experiencing inner troubles..but his claim doesn't seem to be supported by anything other than frustration with his situation in life..
t3hrubikscube
I agree that it's probably likely that TC's friend does not actually want to end his life, but rather would like some support or attention. Quite obviously he feels badly about something in life, so he's experiencing some suicidal ideation of some degree.
I guess my entire point is that it doesn't really matter how 'serious' the person seems. The chance of how likely it is for them to actually attempt suicide and/or succeed isn't really what matters the most. If there's such internal struggle that suicide is even an option, there's a problem that should be addressed. Ignoring it or brushing it off simply because it doesn't SEEM likely won't do any good.
But giving him attention is just reinforcing his actions.. Why it hasn't not been addressed already is what i find suspect about the OP...normally if someone "tries" to kill himself multiple times the parents look for help.. Again, refer to the kid's alleged history of failure in this department.. So, sure..address the problems...but don't give him the satisfaction of fawning over him and hand-feeding him attention on a silver spoon..
i think it's perfectly safe to say he's not gonna do that.suicide is an instant decision,i've never seen someone who actually acted upon a preplanned suicide.
But giving him attention is just reinforcing his actions..Why it hasn't not been addressed already is what i find suspect about the OP...normally if someone "tries" to kill himself multiple times the parents look for help.. Again, refer to the kid's alleged history of failure in this department..
So, sure..address the problems...but don't give him the satisfaction of fawning over him and hand-feeding him attention on a silver spoon..Xx_Hopeless_xX
Well, what do you suggest? Ignoring TC's friend because you don't want him to feel satisfied? I mean, what good will that even do? If anything, ignoring it could actually reinforce the idea in his mind that no one cares about him, which could actually make things worse.
So what if he wants a little attention? Obviously he feels like something in his life is inadequate. He feels badly enough about that to want to kill himself. There is clearly a rather large issue of some sort at hand. Ignoring it won't make it go away.
There's a chance that he's exaggerating his previous attempts in order to be taken more seriously. There's a chance that he maybe never even did attempt to kill himself. There's a chance that this is merely a phase and he will eventually grow out of it. There's a chance that he is just being a typical teenager stuck in a rut of angst, which is quite common. However, what's clear is that, at the very least, there's suicidal ideation, and I must not be doing a good enough job of expressing how serious that can be. If it's not "serious" now, it certainly could be down the line.
[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] But giving him attention is just reinforcing his actions..
Why it hasn't not been addressed already is what i find suspect about the OP...normally if someone "tries" to kill himself multiple times the parents look for help.. Again, refer to the kid's alleged history of failure in this department..
So, sure..address the problems...but don't give him the satisfaction of fawning over him and hand-feeding him attention on a silver spoon..t3hrubikscube
Well, what do you suggest? Ignoring TC's friend because you don't want him to feel satisfied? I mean, what good will that even do? If anything, ignoring it could actually reinforce the idea in his mind that no one cares about him, which could actually make things worse.
So what if he wants a little attention? Obviously he feels like something in his life is inadequate. He feels badly enough about that to want to kill himself. There is clearly a rather large issue of some sort at hand. Ignoring it won't make it go away.
There's a chance that he's exaggerating his previous attempts in order to be taken more seriously. There's a chance that he maybe never even did attempt to kill himself. There's a chance that this is merely a phase and he will eventually grow out of it. There's a chance that he is just being a typical teenager stuck in a rut of angst, which is quite common. However, what's clear is that, at the very least, there's suicidal ideation, and I must not be doing a good enough job of expressing how serious that can be. If it's not "serious" now, it certainly could be down the line.
I don't know how you could address it..i never suggested it be ignored...i clearly said it should be addressed.. It disgusts me that people use topics such as committing suicide to garner attention and there are too many "what if's" in this instance.. Take him seriously by all means.. Also, I never said don't give him attention..rather, don't "give him the satisfaction of fawning over him and hand-feeding him attention on a silver spoon.." That's different then giving him a "little" attention..
Therapy..?
But if the kid is so hellbent on killing himself, then he probably will eventually.
So from what I understand, your friend is suicidal because he can't get into the military because he's overweight and cannot find a girlfriend? If so, that's kinda dumb. You should probably tell his parents instead of posting this here.
this kid one time i knew wrote on facebook he was gonna kill himself but he never did. So me and my friend started to call him no balls and he gets really pissed. I know its cruel but i found it hilarious. and he still alive today soGood times. :D
If your friend truly is sucidal, help from a professional is needed. There is nothing you can really do to help other than just being a good friend.
darktx2005
Jesus Christ, if everyone whose "lifetime dream" as of 11th grade and who didn't have a sweetheart in 11th grade killed themselves, it would be a holocaust that would dwarf Black Death. Sounds like he either wants attention or desperately needs some perspective.One of my good friends tried to hang himself back in grade 7 a bunch of times but could never tie the knot right lucky enough. Now we're in grade 11 and he has told me he might try again. His life time dream has kinda been ruined and he can't get a girl friend.
LaytonsCat
i doubt he "tried" to kill himself, i mean its really not hard at all. sounds like an attention seeker
He'd feel guilty because he didn't tell anyone who could actually help. He needs to tell someone like a school counselor there and not be so uncertain about it.Why would you feel guilty? Did you have something to do with his dream apparently being ruined?
But anyways just try talking to him and being nice with him and stuff. Just be a caring friend. If that doesn't work, then...I don't know what to tell ya.
DJ-Lafleur
Why would you feel guilty? Did you have something to do with his dream apparently being ruined?
But anyways just try talking to him and being nice with him and stuff. Just be a caring friend. If that doesn't work, then...I don't know what to tell ya.
He'd feel guilty because he didn't tell anyone who could actually help. He needs to tell someone like a school counselor there and not be so uncertain about it. im sure if his parent's "caught" him trying to hang himself, he would be in therapy[QUOTE="jonnymcl2k"]
tell his parents? :s
LaytonsCat
I would but thatcould be a tipping point for him because they don't get along well. And a big argument at christmas seems counterproductive
kiss him on the cheekI'm surprised your friend hasn't been institutionalized. It's bad parenting to keep your child in public school when he is openly suicidal...
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