so what do you guys think of socialism?

Hi, I just found some interesting videos on marxism leninism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo32jlgrR9Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTpr7Wur4L4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_pOGnF-bvU&feature=related

these are in order from part 1 to part 3. So what do you guys think? opinions?

One of the worst things on earth.

One of the worst things on earth.

Pirate700

Thank Jesus and his followers for that......

atlesat watch teh videos I also thought socialism was the worst thingever to. How about a democratic socialism?

I find socialism in general to be very intriguing and appealing.

However, I think Marxism in particular is a very dangerous and at times hypocritical philosophy.

good on paper, but wasnt executed wellfluffers623

There has never been a true socialist state at any point in history.

A little bit is necessary in any modern society, but I like mine nice and capitalist.

Just like capitalism, pure socialsim could never work.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

One of the worst things on earth.

majwill24

Thank Jesus and his followers for that......

It's a great idea, but throw in an inherently evil man, and it all goes to Hell.

Socialism is fine, but just like any ideology, an extreme is no good (such as communism).

[QUOTE="fluffers623"]good on paper, but wasnt executed well-Chimera-

There has never been a true socialist state at any point in history.

I think theft should remain illegal.

I dont understad the whole socialism, communism and captalism thing yet. What do they mean?MetaKnight50

[QUOTE="MetaKnight50"]I dont understad the whole socialism, communism and captalism thing yet. What do they mean?battlefront23

I dont understad the whole socialism, communism and captalism thing yet. What do they mean?MetaKnight50

Socialism = political ideology where the state's responsibilityto provide protection for peoples, including social programs and economic protections. Described as a stepping stone towards communism by Marx & Engels

Communism = political/economic ideology that is said to come about by a proletariat revolution which would lead to a government-less and private property-less society. In reality it is considered to be a authoritarian version of socialism where there is large state control, especially over state economy and labour.

Capitalism = Economic policy which is mostly "laissez faire", everyone works to better themselves; more focus on the individual. A capitalist society is one where there is little state interference in economic issues.

An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had never failed a single
student, but had once failed an entire c lass.

The c lass (students) insisted that socialism worked since no one would be poor and
no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, "OK, we
will have an experiment in this c lass on socialism."

"All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no
one will fail and no one will receive an A."

After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The
students who had studied hard were upset while the students who had studied
very little were happy.

But, as the second test rolled around, the students who had studied little
studied even less and the ones who had studied hard decided that since they
couldn't make an A, they also studied less. The second Test average was a D.

No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average grade was an F.

The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling, all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for anyone else.

To their great surprise all failed.

The professor told them that socialism would ultimately fail.

The harder people try to succeed the greater their reward (capitalism) but when a government takes all the reward away (socialism) no one will try or succeed.

My friend asked me about this a couple of weeks ago, and I said that I feel that the theory came from good intentions but would never work in reality.

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[QUOTE="MetaKnight50"]I dont understad the whole socialism, communism and captalism thing yet. What do they mean?-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="battlefront23"] Socialism is a government oriented economic system; communism is an advanced form of it. Essentially, it "spreads" the wealth to everyone. Capitalism is a business oriented economic system where government does not interfere. Or at least in pure capitalism.

battlefront23

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Not all socialists believe that an authoritarian government should run the economy. There are libertarian branches of socialism.-Sun_Tzu-

So basicly, in capitalism, i can sell crack and the government cant do anything about it? If so, then i guess Communism would be the best choice of the 3.MetaKnight50

I'm a socialist, what do you think I think?

Too many Americans are fooled by the conservative interest to think all socialism means brutal dictatorship and government control of you every day life. There can be democratic socialism where free enterprise is still allowed to exist. The goverment just picks up the tab on social services. There is a lot to debat on this issue, and I dont see real socialism happening in the US anytime soon despite what fox news wants people to think.

I'm not sure I know what I think of it anymore, since it's really a vaguely defined term. I suppose the closest thing to a working socialist system operates in the Nordic/Scandinavian countries, but even then, they're really social democracy or mixed economy since they still have a firm capitalist base. They seem to work fairly well, since peopleliving in thosecountries enjoya higher quality of life. People in the Nordic countries and South America wouldn't keep voting in socialist/social democratic leaders if they didn't like the idea. Marxism has a more idealistic base than anything practical, just like Objectivism, and combining that with fanatics makes for an unpleasant combination. I have dabbled in the anarchist communism idea myself, but really it's mostly a fantasy.

So basicly, in capitalism, i can sell crack and the government cant do anything about it? If so, then i guess Communism would be the best choice of the 3.MetaKnight50

That's a drug policy, not an economic policy. But let's say crack wasn't illegal..

Capitalism = The government couldn't impose tarrifs and taxeson you fortrading your crack

Socialism = The government would tax you heavily on your crack, but you might get higher prices and better wages in return.

Communism = You can't sell crack because the government decided you're better suited at working at the shoe factory.

[QUOTE="MetaKnight50"]So basicly, in capitalism, i can sell crack and the government cant do anything about it? If so, then i guess Communism would be the best choice of the 3.battlefront23

Well actually, in a true laissez-faire capitalist economy, there wouldn't be any government regulation of goods. So he would be able to sell crack cocaine without the legal repercussions that you'd normally receive.

Look out for the little guy, yeah its great but Britain is straying away from it.clembo1990

Socialism is a no-no. XDTHEmissHannah

Umm... I live in a socialist democracy? I like it ^^

guess there is a reason that the nordic countries are the place with most wealth per citisen, free medicare, free education (and still usually lie in the top 10-20 in our effeciency).

Ironicly I somewhat give credit to socialism that the Danes are the least religious people in the world, as in we are goverened by Logic, and science, we do have an official church, and pay taxes to it, but religion is pretty much a political suicide if a politician gets into the subject.

I kinda like our fairly high taxes, to support the infrastructure, a sa collective, and I do like that even if you get fired, you still "get" about 2000$ a month, to support your life (if you have children it is higher). I also kinda love the minimum wage is set where it is set, andthat basicly anyone can get a high paying job, without his/her parrents have to pay for education, and hope it turns out (the average Job in Denmark pt. lies at about 6000$)

Capitalism is somewhat scary to me (together with communism), I sort of see them as extremes, which both dictates a human beings worth before they are born, and I can not really see any of them as total "freedom"because if you were born from the wrong parrents you are pretty much knee deep in it, a few makes it out but most dont.

I guess that If I were American I would be a Democrat, huh? ^^Cant say alot about the states in particular, since Ive never been there. I guess they are not balls-to-the-wallCapitalistic either...

[QUOTE="clembo1990"]Look out for the little guy, yeah its great but Britain is straying away from it.T_P_O

[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]Look out for the little guy, yeah its great but Britain is straying away from it.clembo1990

lol, every government of developed countries use socialist aspects.

Countries such as Sweden and Canada have always had strong socialist aspects in their system and they're doing just great.

[QUOTE="THEmissHannah"]Socialism is a no-no. XDT_P_O

[QUOTE="THEmissHannah"]Socialism is a no-no. XDT_P_O

I have a friend that lives in England. He said the Socialized Healthcare stinks. I asked why. He said the actual healthcare sucks and it takes ages to get in to see a doctor.

[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="THEmissHannah"]Socialism is a no-no. XDSingularity22

I have a friend that lives in England. He said the Socialized Healthcare stinks. I asked why. He said the actual healthcare sucks and it takes ages to get in to see a doctor.

I dont understad the whole socialism, communism and captalism thing yet. What do they mean?MetaKnight50