So what think of Obama if he did pull it off?

If he stops going on family vacations, then maybe he could do it. Then he could take family vacations to the Middle East.

ChiSoxBombers

[QUOTE="ChiSoxBombers"]

If he stops going on family vacations, then maybe he could do it. Then he could take family vacations to the Middle East.

DAVlD_DAVIDSON

It's trolling to tell the truth?

Anyway, as a Republican, my opinion is that peace in the Middle East would be a good thing, no matter who was due credit for it. Presumably, if the Middle East was peaceful, they'd stop trying to jihad the hell out of the West, and I could stop disliking Muslims.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

I would be suprised, but the right will say he's anti Israel since he talked to terrorists and all that other BS. Funny though,most who are "pro Israel" want them to keep fighting. But all in all it would be a good sign for the region.

UnknownSniper65

not to true at all...During the Camp David accords Israel offered more than expected and Arafat still walked out.

Neither side seems interested in peace

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

I would be suprised, but the right will say he's anti Israel since he talked to terrorists and all that other BS. Funny though,most who are "pro Israel" want them to keep fighting. But all in all it would be a good sign for the region.

UnknownSniper65

not to true at all...During the Camp David accords Israel offered more than expected and Arafat still walked out.

Neither side seems interested in peace

No no no.. If Arafat accepted it would be a death warrant.. If you actually look at the agreements, the other side got a whooping few square miles that they could govern.. The rest was under Israeli military law.. FURTHERMORE, it added even MORE LAND to Israel for them to settle.. So no.. It was not a good agreement, and it was obvious why he refused it.. It came no where close to a two state solution what os eer.

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

I would be suprised, but the right will say he's anti Israel since he talked to terrorists and all that other BS. Funny though,most who are "pro Israel" want them to keep fighting. But all in all it would be a good sign for the region.

sSubZerOo

not to true at all...During the Camp David accords Israel offered more than expected and Arafat still walked out.

Neither side seems interested in peace

No no no.. If Arafat accepted it would be a death warrant.. If you actually look at the agreements, the other side got a whooping few square miles that they could govern.. The rest was under Israeli military law.. FURTHERMORE, it added even MORE LAND to Israel for them to settle.. So no.. It was not a good agreement, and it was obvious why he refused it.. It came no where close to a two state solution what os eer.

Palestinians need to be more realistic over what kind of deal they are going to get. Israel has nearly every advantage they could possibly have in an armed conflict. The losing side rarely gets the better deal. The fact is, the offer was very generous given the circumstances and his refusal is nothing more than a clear intention for a continuation of the conflict.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

not to true at all...During the Camp David accords Israel offered more than expected and Arafat still walked out.

Neither side seems interested in peace

UnknownSniper65

No no no.. If Arafat accepted it would be a death warrant.. If you actually look at the agreements, the other side got a whooping few square miles that they could govern.. The rest was under Israeli military law.. FURTHERMORE, it added even MORE LAND to Israel for them to settle.. So no.. It was not a good agreement, and it was obvious why he refused it.. It came no where close to a two state solution what os eer.

Palestinians need to be more realistic over what kind of deal they are going to get. Israel has nearly every advantage they could possibly have in an armed conflict. The losing side rarely gets the better the deal. The fact is, the offer was very generous given the circumstances and his refusal is nothing more than a clear intention for a continuation of the conflict.

Yeah so generous, much like giving table scraps to a starving bum on the street.. The fact of the matter is Israel has no intention for peace if it does not involve them controlling the West Bank.. Which is against International law I might add.. Furthermore Arafat could not accept it, because his people would have most likely had him assassinated afterwards.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

not to true at all...During the Camp David accords Israel offered more than expected and Arafat still walked out.

Neither side seems interested in peace

UnknownSniper65

No no no.. If Arafat accepted it would be a death warrant.. If you actually look at the agreements, the other side got a whooping few square miles that they could govern.. The rest was under Israeli military law.. FURTHERMORE, it added even MORE LAND to Israel for them to settle.. So no.. It was not a good agreement, and it was obvious why he refused it.. It came no where close to a two state solution what os eer.

Palestinians need to be more realistic over what kind of deal they are going to get. Israel has nearly every advantage they could possibly have in an armed conflict. The losing side rarely gets the better the deal. The fact is, the offer was very generous given the circumstances and his refusal is nothing more than a clear intention for a continuation of the conflict.

This is why moderate and liberals within Israel, and Westerners have argued for a two-state solution.

but as i recall there was indeed going to be a second state, Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered East Jersualem's Muslim and Albanian (i believe that's what it is) quarters but the Holy sites, while free access would eventually be allowed for Muslims to worship, the Palestinian government would only have custodial ship of them. In the same sense of how the King of Saudi Arabia cannot say no to Iran or any Muslim nation they're having problems with cannot block the way for Muslims to go to Mecca or Medina.

I would suggest anyone interested in the peace process check out a neat game called PeaceMaker

It was pretty good and strongly highlighted the issues the two face.