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Comments like this in general, very VERY popular on the internet these days, really worry me. The "people hate it because it's popular" and "hater" response. Basically this means that any given mass marketed product that you cannot escape knowing about, because it is being shoved down your throat everywhere you look or listen (tv, radio, outdoor advertisements, people gabbing about it, cross promotional ads that push a given product in places where you cannot escape it) and which becomes "popular" cannot be criticized legitimately. As soon as someone says they dislike whatever that thing is, they are immediately called a hater or accused of not liking it because it is popular. Honestly that a very self serving and lazy dismissal of an opinion one does not agree with, and it's a rather transparent tactic used to make a dissenter's viewpoint seem dishonest. Not saying people don't actually do or believe this, or sometimes troll because they've just decided they don't like something without knowing anything about it, but it's quite disturbing that whenever people think for themselves and reject the latest hard sell pop culture phenomenon they are marginalized as "haters" or "trolls." I saw this in a thread here just yesterday, where the topic clearly identified the thread being for people who don't like something, but even a mod on this site could not help but be snide to the attitude of the thread because he didn't agree, and fell back on the other favorite lazy tactic to dismiss people who don't like what they like, the moronic "well if you don't like it don't talk about/use it or share your opinion." I'm starting to consider these people "opinion nazis."It's just the cool thing to do. Really.
I'm betting most people that claim to hate it, really don't. Just jumping on the bandwagon. And the whole "glittering vampires" argument is so weak, as if whether or not vampires glitter in the sun will make or break movies and books. I'm also fairly certain that a sizeable amount of haters have never read any of the books or seen any of the movies beyond trailers on youtube.
Twilight has become socially acceptable to troll, so people troll it at any given oppertunity, as in the fanbase. It's really just a clash of opposing infantile opinions.
BiancaDK
You can discern a typical hater from a person who is open-minded and has arrived
at the conclusion of not liking the specified object. The latter would not
be so intense about it.
The problem is that it would take a lot of work to be "open-minded". If I know I'm not going to like something before even going in to the theater, what is the point of wasting 2 hours or however long the movie is, just to be able to lable myself "open-minded". I know enough about it, without seeing it or reading the books, to know that this series sucks (imo of course).
Nobody is forcing you to go see it with a bunch of tweeners, good sir :lol:
How about a rent + late night with girlfriend or something ^^
Indeed. If I had a girlfriend, that would be the only reason for me to see it. Then depending on how bad the movie is/was and how much she loves Twilight, I might also have to consider why I'm with her in the first place. :lol:Nobody is forcing you to go see it with a bunch of tweeners, good sir :lol:
How about a rent + late night with girlfriend or something ^^
depend3ncy
[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]Comments like this in general, very VERY popular on the internet these days, really worry me. The "people hate it because it's popular" and "hater" response. Basically this means that any given mass marketed product that you cannot escape knowing about, because it is being shoved down your throat everywhere you look or listen (tv, radio, outdoor advertisements, people gabbing about it, cross promotional ads that push a given product in places where you cannot escape it) and which becomes "popular" cannot be criticized legitimately. As soon as someone says they dislike whatever that thing is, they are immediately called a hater or accused of not liking it because it is popular. Honestly that a very self serving and lazy dismissal of an opinion one does not agree with, and it's a rather transparent tactic used to make a dissenter's viewpoint seem dishonest. Not saying people don't actually do or believe this, or sometimes troll because they've just decided they don't like something without knowing anything about it, but it's quite disturbing that whenever people think for themselves and reject the latest hard sell pop culture phenomenon they are marginalized as "haters" or "trolls." I saw this in a thread here just yesterday, where the topic clearly identified the thread being for people who don't like something, but even a mod on this site could not help but be snide to the attitude of the thread because he didn't agree, and fell back on the other favorite lazy tactic to dismiss people who don't like what they like, the moronic "well if you don't like it don't talk about/use it or share your opinion." I'm starting to consider these people "opinion nazis."It's just the cool thing to do. Really.
I'm betting most people that claim to hate it, really don't. Just jumping on the bandwagon. And the whole "glittering vampires" argument is so weak, as if whether or not vampires glitter in the sun will make or break movies and books. I'm also fairly certain that a sizeable amount of haters have never read any of the books or seen any of the movies beyond trailers on youtube.
Twilight has become socially acceptable to troll, so people troll it at any given oppertunity, as in the fanbase. It's really just a clash of opposing infantile opinions.
albatrossdrums
... Do you really believe in the stuff you type out? It doesen't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a lot of people are jumping on the hate bandwagon regarding twilight, you will even get some of them to admit that that is exactly what they're doing, for some of the reasons I already stated. My argument does not work to prevent all things being or becoming popular to be criticized legimately, my argument is a comment on the majority of the criticism advocated as legitimate, when it is in fact not the case. You are twisting my argument into some extreme, and it's not, it's a generalization and it stands to serve a valid point.
For something to be destroyed, it has to be assumed as fixed.
There have always been different presentations of vampires around.
All they added is glittering skin, day-walker concepts and
'vegetarianism'have been aroundfor a while, as far as i'm concerned.
Its all about what you consider to be fitting to your image of vampires.
I hate it because it's poorly written, every other sentence begins with "i". Its vocab is repetitive and just idolizes Edward way too much. Honestly, it reads like bad Anne Rice fan fiction.
I also can't stand the plot. Cliches may enhance a plot, but they should never be the plot!
And of course, it's ruined vampires. They're supposed to be scary and awesome. Not beautiful misunderstood creatures with delicate emotions.
Isabella." He pronounced my full name carefully, then playfully ruffled my hair with his free hand. A shock ran through my body at his casual touch. "Bella, I couldn't live with myself if I ever hurt you. You don't know how it's tortured me." He looked down, ashamed again. "The thought of you, still, white, cold . . . to never see you blush scarlet again, to never see that flash of intuition in your eyes when you see through my pretenses . . . it would be unendurable." He lifted his glorious agonized eyes to mine. "You are the most importand thing to me now. The most important thing to me ever."
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