...so why legalize marijuana?

There's tons of threads about whether it should be legal or not, however there seems to be not argument for it besides "it's better for you then cigarettes!".

So I ask you, good sirs of OT, why it should be legalized in the first place. Not including medicinal purposes, and I want a better argument then "it's better then cigarettes."

Why? If the sole reason is for entertainment/hobby/etc, then why bother? It's bad for you, whether you like it or not. We already have a bunch of "entertainment" things that are bad for you (alcohol, cigs, etc.), why have another? It seems to me that the less harmful substances we have out there the better. (let's assume I'm right on this one -- I don't want an argument of whether it's harmful or not)

Have at 'er.

I say keep it illegal but frankly it's kid's stuff. If you're still smoking it after the age of say 20 then you're either a loser or an addicted loser.

I say keep it illegal but frankly it's kid's stuff. If you're still smoking it after the age of say 20 then you're either a loser or an addicted loser.

thardus317

You can cut down on (potential) crime from dealers who may or may not be involved in other criminal areas. Also, we wouldn't have to waste prison space and money doing raids and arresting people on drugs offences. It could be taxed giving an extra income to government, you see how much they earn from cigarettes and alcohol. Lastly we could control the quality of it, so that chemicals cannot be put in and used to make the drug less pure.

I'm not that clued up on the subject, because it isn't something that bothers me too much, but those seem the obvious reasons.

Lastly we could control the quality of it, so that chemicals cannot be put in and used to make the drug less pure.

Samwel_X

I say keep it illegal but frankly it's kid's stuff. If you're still smoking it after the age of say 20 then you're either a loser or an addicted loser.

thardus317

That's more of a concern with un...natural drugs. Sure, someone could "lace" the pot with some other stuff, but it doesn't make any sense to. It would take a real asshat to do such a thing.Jandurin

And the world is full of asshats :o

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Lastly we could control the quality of it, so that chemicals cannot be put in and used to make the drug less pure.

Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]That's more of a concern with un...natural drugs. Sure, someone could "lace" the pot with some other stuff, but it doesn't make any sense to. It would take a real asshat to do such a thing.Samwel_X

And the world is full of asshats :o

If you legalize it then you can tax the hell out of it. -Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]If you legalize it then you can tax the hell out of it. kulmiye

Yeah, but those asshats have to deal with the asshats they were asshats to on a regular basis, generally. No one likes a reverse asshatterization >_>Jandurin

I think my head just exploded.

Arguments have to be given for why something should be illegal, not why it should be illegal...xaos

Department of redundancy department.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]If you legalize it then you can tax the hell out of it. kulmiye

[QUOTE="thardus317"] I say keep it illegal but frankly it's kid's stuff. If you're still smoking it after the age of say 20 then you're either a loser or an addicted loser.Jandurin

Seriously though, at that age you're getting dangerously close to entering the real world. We all gotta grow up sometime, pal.

[QUOTE="xaos"]Arguments have to be given for why something should be illegal, not why it should be illegal...LikeHaterade

Department of redundancy department.

We all gotta grow up sometime, pal.

thardus317

Arguments have to be given for why something should be illegal, not why it should be illegal...xaos

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[QUOTE="xaos"]Arguments have to be given for why something should be illegal, not why it should be illegal...xaos

Department of redundancy department.

Lol just giving you a hard time. :P

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="thardus317"] I say keep it illegal but frankly it's kid's stuff. If you're still smoking it after the age of say 20 then you're either a loser or an addicted loser.thardus317

Seriously though, at that age you're getting dangerously close to entering the real world. We all gotta grow up sometime, pal.

I say keep it illegal but frankly it's kid's stuff. If you're still smoking it after the age of say 20 then you're either a loser or an addicted loser.

thardus317

I dont really get the appeal, but the thing about marijuana, is it will loose its effect, then you go on to more major things, its a vicious circle. So you got to stop it there, see those "non-voilent" offenders probably would be violent if marijuana was legal. Then again when we made drinking illegal, it increased crime, so maybe it is legit to legalize this. The problem is people dont do stuff like this in moderation, they do it all the time, I think this should be considered a moral issue, rather than a legal issue if you get my drift. It does seem like people do it no matter the consequences, but if we make this legal, then maybe people will think "if we just cause enough trouble, they will crack. I dont think it is an unjust law though, the thing is the type of people who are willing to break the law over such a thing, are criminals at heart.SegaGenesisfan

I dont really get the appeal, but the thing about marijuana, is it will loose its effect, then you go on to more major things, its a vicious circle. So you got to stop it there, see those "non-voilent" offenders probably would be violent if marijuana was legal. Then again when we made drinking illegal, it increased crime, so maybe it is legit to legalize this. The problem is people dont do stuff like this in moderation, they do it all the time, I think this should be considered a moral issue, rather than a legal issue if you get my drift. It does seem like people do it no matter the consequences, but if we make this legal, then maybe people will think "if we just cause enough trouble, they will crack. I dont think it is an unjust law though, the thing is the type of people who are willing to break the law over such a thing, are criminals at heart.SegaGenesisfan

[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"] I dont really get the appeal, but the thing about marijuana, is it will loose its effect, then you go on to more major things, its a vicious circle. So you got to stop it there, see those "non-voilent" offenders probably would be violent if marijuana was legal. Then again when we made drinking illegal, it increased crime, so maybe it is legit to legalize this. The problem is people dont do stuff like this in moderation, they do it all the time, I think this should be considered a moral issue, rather than a legal issue if you get my drift. It does seem like people do it no matter the consequences, but if we make this legal, then maybe people will think "if we just cause enough trouble, they will crack. I dont think it is an unjust law though, the thing is the type of people who are willing to break the law over such a thing, are criminals at heart.gobo212

[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"] I dont really get the appeal, but the thing about marijuana, is it will loose its effect, then you go on to more major things, its a vicious circle. So you got to stop it there, see those "non-voilent" offenders probably would be violent if marijuana was legal. Then again when we made drinking illegal, it increased crime, so maybe it is legit to legalize this. The problem is people dont do stuff like this in moderation, they do it all the time, I think this should be considered a moral issue, rather than a legal issue if you get my drift. It does seem like people do it no matter the consequences, but if we make this legal, then maybe people will think "if we just cause enough trouble, they will crack. I dont think it is an unjust law though, the thing is the type of people who are willing to break the law over such a thing, are criminals at heart.Jandurin

- It would regulate a drug that is quite easy for minors to get at this point - It would bring in 10's of billions in taxes - it would free up a clogged up prison system of non violent offenders - It would stop funding to the dangerous cartels that have almost complete control over Mexico and slaughter thousands a year - It allows access to vital medicine to the chronically ill - It allows growing of hemp, the most industrially useful plant in the world - de facto legalization of marijuana in Holland has shown to decrease people access to harder drugs.Big_player

also tc why dont you explain why you believe it should be illegal without using the famous "its bad for you" argument

Why not ? lol I would be for it and im not even a smoker anymore.

Yes can you believe that it IS actually healthier than a cigarette? Cigarettes are full with synthetic garbage. You saying (TC) "why even if its just a hobby,? its un-healthy"

What on earth is'nt un-healthy? you want health ONLY eat food you grow at home, dont go shopping lol. Wal-Mart is deadlier in the long run than the plant.

Another thing maybe people feel its a freedom issue. Not every smoker drives around selling and dealing and beating ppl up. Majority grow it themselves , smoke it themselves or even w/ friends/family/coworkers/bosses

Legalizing marijuana and the myths surrounding it is a moot point

I dont really get the appeal, but the thing about marijuana, is it will loose its effect, then you go on to more major things, its a vicious circle. So you got to stop it there, see those "non-voilent" offenders probably would be violent if marijuana was legal. SegaGenesisfan

Thing about gaming is , it will loose its effect, you go on from GTA to really shooting ppl. its a vicious cycle

As long as other recreational drugs like tobacco and alcohol remain legal, so to should all other recreational drugs. There is absolutely no logical reason for them to be illegal.

Because it isn't dangerous and it is fun?

- It would regulate a drug that is quite easy for minors to get at this point - It would bring in 10's of billions in taxes - it would free up a clogged up prison system of non violent offenders - It would stop funding to the dangerous cartels that have almost complete control over Mexico and slaughter thousands a year - It allows access to vital medicine to the chronically ill - It allows growing of hemp, the most industrially useful plant in the world - de facto legalization of marijuana in Holland has shown to decrease people access to harder drugs.Big_player

-marijuana isn't medicine, it just allows people to get high and ignore their issues.

-hemp is no where near the most industrial plant in the world, are you joking? decrease access to harder drugs? more like increase the want for simple drugs, then people move onto the harder stuff once pot doesnt do it for them

-stop funding to cartels in mexico, it would only increase it, as there would be no limit on it's import and use. sure there could be government 'sold' pot, but that's not gonna happen.

-so what, it's easy for minors to get at this moment, so you're saying because kids can already get it, we may as well give it to them.

-do you have any idea what pot does on the growing body and mind? pot is a devastating drug which ruins many lives. as well as classing yourself as a pothead when you use it, it causes serious damage to your mind and body.

[QUOTE="thardus317"]

I say keep it illegal but frankly it's kid's stuff. If you're still smoking it after the age of say 20 then you're either a loser or an addicted loser.

Jandurin

Then you're late for the party