So will Boehner get to keep his job?

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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"] It begs the question - is there really a difference?mattbbpl

I think Boehner will keep his job. I actually don't have a problem with him being so combative toward the Democrats and President Obama. 

To me, this division in Washington is part of checks and balances, of how no person or branch of our government is supposed to get too much power. I'm a liberty Republican (that is, a libertarian-leaning Republican), meaning I don't think the GOP walks on water, but I'm with the GOP when it comes to Obamacare. While Obamacare does some good things, those good things are outweighed by the fact that the federal government is now hugely expanded and the fact that the federal government can tell you that you have to buy a product or get fined (in fact, that fine is collected by the IRS-- and I think we all know that when the IRS is involved, the thing is going to be a screw-up from the beginning). 

Incidentally, Obama is throwing a tantrum about the Republicans, but interestingly enough, when the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency for the first two years of his first term, Obama had no problem saying, "The Republicans can come along for the ride, but they're going to have to sit in the back."

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

Better Boehner than Pelosi.

Master_Live

Whether you like her or not Pelosi got stuff done on a regular basis, and was clearly in charge of the democrats in the House.

Oh yeez, she got stuff done with a Democrat Senate and President? No way.

I think Boehner will keep his job. I actually don't have a problem with him being so combative toward the Democrats and President Obama. 

To me, this division in Washington is part of checks and balances, of how no person or branch of our government is supposed to get too much power. I'm a liberty Republican (that is, a libertarian-leaning Republican), meaning I don't think the GOP walks on water, but I'm with the GOP when it comes to Obamacare. While Obamacare does some good things, those good things are outweighed by the fact that the federal government is now hugely expanded and the fact that the federal government can tell you that you have to buy a product or get fined (in fact, that fine is collected by the IRS-- and I think we all know that when the IRS is involved, the thing is going to be a screw-up from the beginning). 

Incidentally, Obama is throwing a tantrum about the Republicans, but interestingly enough, when the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency for the first two years of his first term, Obama had no problem saying, "The Republicans can come along for the ride, but they're going to have to sit in the back."

 

MathMattS

Checks and balances are meant to reach compromises, not where a small group of people can bascially hold up government until they get what they want. Obamacare passed and they failed many many times to repeal it. Boehner has been bascially halting any progress at this point. He isn't there for the good of the people, he's there to keep the Tea Party backer's money flowing.

Right now the GoP is being controlled by a small faction with a lot of money. It's killing the part and turning everybody radical.

[QUOTE="MathMattS"]

I think Boehner will keep his job. I actually don't have a problem with him being so combative toward the Democrats and President Obama. 

To me, this division in Washington is part of checks and balances, of how no person or branch of our government is supposed to get too much power. I'm a liberty Republican (that is, a libertarian-leaning Republican), meaning I don't think the GOP walks on water, but I'm with the GOP when it comes to Obamacare. While Obamacare does some good things, those good things are outweighed by the fact that the federal government is now hugely expanded and the fact that the federal government can tell you that you have to buy a product or get fined (in fact, that fine is collected by the IRS-- and I think we all know that when the IRS is involved, the thing is going to be a screw-up from the beginning). 

Incidentally, Obama is throwing a tantrum about the Republicans, but interestingly enough, when the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency for the first two years of his first term, Obama had no problem saying, "The Republicans can come along for the ride, but they're going to have to sit in the back."

 

Wasdie

Checks and balances are meant to reach compromises, not where a small group of people can bascially hold up government until they get what they want. Obamacare passed and they failed many many times to repeal it. Boehner has been bascially halting any progress at this point. He isn't there for the good of the people, he's there to keep the Tea Party backer's money flowing.

Right now the GoP is being controlled by a small faction with a lot of money. It's killing the part and turning everybody radical.

[QUOTE="MathMattS"]

I think Boehner will keep his job. I actually don't have a problem with him being so combative toward the Democrats and President Obama. 

To me, this division in Washington is part of checks and balances, of how no person or branch of our government is supposed to get too much power. I'm a liberty Republican (that is, a libertarian-leaning Republican), meaning I don't think the GOP walks on water, but I'm with the GOP when it comes to Obamacare. While Obamacare does some good things, those good things are outweighed by the fact that the federal government is now hugely expanded and the fact that the federal government can tell you that you have to buy a product or get fined (in fact, that fine is collected by the IRS-- and I think we all know that when the IRS is involved, the thing is going to be a screw-up from the beginning). 

Incidentally, Obama is throwing a tantrum about the Republicans, but interestingly enough, when the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency for the first two years of his first term, Obama had no problem saying, "The Republicans can come along for the ride, but they're going to have to sit in the back."

 

Wasdie

Checks and balances are meant to reach compromises, not where a small group of people can bascially hold up government until they get what they want. Obamacare passed and they failed many many times to repeal it. Boehner has been bascially halting any progress at this point. He isn't there for the good of the people, he's there to keep the Tea Party backer's money flowing.

Right now the GoP is being controlled by a small faction with a lot of money. It's killing the part and turning everybody radical.

He's threatening the world's economy with a US default if he doesn't get what he wants...how isn't that treason and/or terrorism?Person0

[QUOTE="Person0"]He's threatening the world's economy with a US default if he doesn't get what he wants...how isn't that treason and/or terrorism?Laihendi

In a perfect world no but in reality probably will get to keep it. It's sad that republicans can be sore losers like this and just take the country hostage when they feel like it. Regardless of where you stand on the ACA you have to agree that it's absurd what they are doing. The thing passed into law and was proven constitutional + Republicans attacked it at every chance they had and failed. At that point it should be done with. Obama has made consessions already with them leading up to this point and probably would be willing to work with the republicans more  but he shouldn't have to at gunpoint with the country on the line thats BS. So i agree with his stance on not negotiating with hostage takers. Anybody who says he's not willing to negotiate is full of it imo.

This whole thing made even more sad and shameful by the fact that they have basically said they are gonna do back pay. so now we are just throwing away millions apon millions of dollars over BS what a joke. Quick research says 300mil a day to be exact so we just threw away a billion dollars(in paychecks alone) + whatever else it costs to stop and start stuff last week because we got it like that apparently we got it like that.

Never heard of him

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In a perfect world no but in reality probably will get to keep it. It's sad that republicans can be sore losers like this and just take the country hostage when they feel like it. Regardless of where you stand on the ACA you have to agree that it's absurd what they are doing. The thing passed into law and was proven constitutional + Republicans attacked it at every chance they had and failed. At that point it should be done with. Obama has made consessions already with them leading up to this point and probably would be willing to work with the republicans more  but he shouldn't have to at gunpoint with the country on the line thats BS. So i agree with his stance on not negotiating with hostage takers. Anybody who says he's not willing to negotiate is full of it imo.

Gen007

Agreed, we can't keep going up to the brink and having the opposition party attempt to extort the president (and future presidents) every time at the expense of the economy. Obama clearly fvcked up when he allowed such a thing to become a precident. That precident needs to end and I don't see a way for it to do so without serious harm coming to those who try to instigate said extortion. Republicans need to take a political beating for this, and recieve absolutely nothing in the way of fig leaves from the democrats for their efforts.

I actively want to see more negotiations and compromises in washington, but it can't continue to come at the expense of the people, our economy, and our national credit rating. If Obama has to lose political points for looking like a tyrant to put an end to this practice than that's just the price he pays for letting this sort of thing happen in the first place.

[QUOTE="Person0"]He's threatening the world's economy with a US default if he doesn't get what he wants...how isn't that treason and/or terrorism?Laihendi

Your obsession with Obama needs to cool down, son.

[QUOTE="Person0"]He's threatening the world's economy with a US default if he doesn't get what he wants...how isn't that treason and/or terrorism?Laihendi

Your obsession with Obama needs to cool down, son.

Do you americans ever realize that the america is only about 5% of the world? And that the other 95% is about 500 times more interesting?charlesdarwin55

Do you realize that there are a great number of America posters on the forum, and most of them would naturally be interested in important political news?

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]Do you americans ever realize that the america is only about 5% of the world? And that the other 95% is about 500 times more interesting?jimkabrhel

Do you realize that there are a great number of America posters on the forum, and most of them would naturally be interested in important political news?

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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]Do you americans ever realize that the america is only about 5% of the world? And that the other 95% is about 500 times more interesting?charlesdarwin55

Do you realize that there are a great number of America posters on the forum, and most of them would naturally be interested in important political news?

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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]Do you americans ever realize that the america is only about 5% of the world? And that the other 95% is about 500 times more interesting?charlesdarwin55

Do you realize that there are a great number of America posters on the forum, and most of them would naturally be interested in important political news?

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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]Do you americans ever realize that the america is only about 5% of the world? And that the other 95% is about 500 times more interesting?charlesdarwin55

Do you realize that there are a great number of America posters on the forum, and most of them would naturally be interested in important political news?

You ever realize the majority of posters within this forum live within the United States and this story directly affects them all, right?..

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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]Do you americans ever realize that the america is only about 5% of the world? And that the other 95% is about 500 times more interesting?charlesdarwin55

Do you realize that there are a great number of America posters on the forum, and most of them would naturally be interested in important political news?

I'd like to disagree. I do certainly care what is going on in Syria, Iran, Israel, Brazil, the Eurozone and Russia, and I follow those news items. Just because you are tired of hearing about the US doesn't mean that we are solely interested in our own shit. Far from it.

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Better Boehner than Pelosi.

Serraph105

I've heard this before, but I don't see the reasoning behind it other than party affiliation. Whether you like her or not Pelosi got stuff done on a regular basis, and was clearly in charge of the democrats in the House. I'm guessing the Republicans wish they could say the same for Boehner.

whip is just being a partisan drone like usual.

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Why should he be fired?AmazonTreeBoa

Why in the world should Obama negotiate over dismembering the healthcare law? That would make zero sense.

And you call other people idiots...