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#1 runbleduck
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Lol so Newt, who has a proven track record of being a serial adulterer, liar, hypocrite, self-centered, uncommpassionate vile man is overwhelmingly supported by social conservatives and evangelicals to be President. Oh yea, they also know that Newt dumped his first two wives because they became sick and/or ugly and old, no joke. Here's what Newt said, in verbatim, when asked about why he cheated and dumped his first wive: "She's not young enough or pretty enough to be the wife of the President. And besides, she has cancer." Shortly after he divorced her he refused to provide any form of support at all despite having the wealth to do so, forcing her and their children to beg for food and shelter in their communties to survive. That's right, this is the kind of person social conservatives support.

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#2 CHOASXIII
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Well either way I am not supporting Newt I am supporting Romney so don't worry this evil man won't get my vote. :P

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#3 JML897
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I'm not sure "overwhelmingly support" is the right term, I think it's more "I guess we'll go with this jackass and not the other ones"
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#4 GameShtopper
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Ron Paul is better than all of them.

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#5 CaveJohnson1
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What it says about republicans.

[spoiler] alot [/spoiler]

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#6 LJS9502_basic
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Family values....not.:o
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Another puppet for Israel
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#8 mingmao3046
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Well either way I am not supporting Newt I am supporting Romney so don't worry this evil man won't get my vote. :P

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what exactly do you like about romney? he is largely the same as obama and will continue big government, and more spending when we are in massive debt
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#9 CaveJohnson1
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Just sayin'

[spoiler] Social conservatives constantly push backwards "family values" but constantly show they put less value on them than anybody. [/spoiler]

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#10 mingmao3046
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Just sayin'

Social conservatives constantly push backwards "family values" but constantly show they put less value on them than anybody.

CaveJohnson1

they also preach "small government" yet are pretty intrusive into peoples lives. moreso than democrats besides taxes

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#11 SauceKing
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social conservatives are just biggoted a-holes.

its not a real classifiation.

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#12 moneymatterz
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You know, what's funny is that the vast majority of libs would jump at the chance to commit adultery with a woman who is:

  • Hotter than what they already have
  • Wealthier than what they already have

Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

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#13 SauceKing
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You know, what's funny is that the vast majority of libs would jump at the chance to commit adultery with a woman who is:

  • Hotter than what they already have
  • Wealthier than what they already have

Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

moneymatterz

because social conservatives govern from an admittedly illogical stance. God being the reasoning.

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#14 Frattracide
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When you say " Social conservatives overwhelmingly supports. . ."

I think what you meant was: forty percent of voters in the primary of one state voted for Gingrich.

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#15 JML897
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You know, what's funny is that the vast majority of libs would jump at the chance to commit adultery with a woman who is:

  • Hotter than what they already have
  • Wealthier than what they already have

Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

moneymatterz

Those libs you're talking about don't preach to protect the sanctity of marriage.

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#16 Blue-Sky
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The sad thing is, the main reason why they don't want to support Mitt Romney is because he's a Mormon.

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#17 JML897
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The sad thing is, the main reason why they don't want to support Mitt Romney is because he's a Mormon.

Blue-Sky

I don't really think that's true for most of the voters. Most don't want to support Romney because he hasn't been as solidly conservative throughout his career like Gingrich etc have been.

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You know, what's funny is that the vast majority of libs would jump at the chance to commit adultery with a woman who is:

  • Hotter than what they already have
  • Wealthier than what they already have

Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

moneymatterz

Because most of them don't have the audacity to make a public service announcement about the sanctity of marriage shortly before going home and sleeping with their third wife.

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#19 moneymatterz
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

You know, what's funny is that the vast majority of libs would jump at the chance to commit adultery with a woman who is:

  • Hotter than what they already have
  • Wealthier than what they already have

Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

Dark_Knight6

Because most of them don't have the audacity to make a public service announcement about the sanctity of marriage shortly before going home and sleeping with their third wife.

Yeah....and? What's the problem? He's only a messenger for an idea that's been lingering throughout modern human history. No one is perfect, but you're implying that it is reprehensible to inspire others to strive for perfection.

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#20 SF_KiLLaMaN
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

You know, what's funny is that the vast majority of libs would jump at the chance to commit adultery with a woman who is:

  • Hotter than what they already have
  • Wealthier than what they already have

Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

moneymatterz

Because most of them don't have the audacity to make a public service announcement about the sanctity of marriage shortly before going home and sleeping with their third wife.

Yeah....and? What's the problem? He's only a messenger for an idea that's been lingering all throughout modern human history.

lol. are you serious? He's a total hypocrite. You don't preach something and go against it yourself, what kind of message does that send to everyone else? "Yeah, you shouldn't do that, but it's OK for me to do it."
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#21 RandoIph
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Not that shocking. Divorce rates are higher among more religious areas of the country. (so much for the sanctity of marriage.) Teen pregnancy and abortion rates (pretty much go hand in hand) are also higher in that demographic. (so much for the sanctity of life) Social conservatives get flak because they are massive hypocrites (one of the more recent popular definitions of a Christian is "one who believes the teachings and laws of the bible and Jesus are a great way for their NEIGHBORS to live their lives) who want to establish a theocracy. I will never vote for anyone who actively attempts to force Christian "morals" and biblical laws on the rest of the population through the law.

Protecting the minority from the whims and tyranny of the majority is one of the most important jobs of the government, and despite the Christian persecution complex saying otherwise, Christians are not an oppressed minority. They are an oppressive and tyrannical majority.

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#22 moneymatterz
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

You know, what's funny is that the vast majority of libs would jump at the chance to commit adultery with a woman who is:

  • Hotter than what they already have
  • Wealthier than what they already have

Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

SauceKing

because social conservatives govern from an admittedly illogical stance. God being the reasoning.

Illogical by whose admission?

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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

You know, what's funny is that the vast majority of libs would jump at the chance to commit adultery with a woman who is:

  • Hotter than what they already have
  • Wealthier than what they already have

Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

moneymatterz

Because most of them don't have the audacity to make a public service announcement about the sanctity of marriage shortly before going home and sleeping with their third wife.

Yeah....and? What's the problem? He's only a messenger for an idea that's been lingering throughout modern human history. No one is perfect, but you're implying that it is reprehensible to inspire others to strive for perfection.

No, I am saying that if you are a hypocritical piece of **** people will call you out for being a hypocritical piece of ****

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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

You know, what's funny is that the vast majority of libs would jump at the chance to commit adultery with a woman who is:

  • Hotter than what they already have
  • Wealthier than what they already have

Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

moneymatterz

Because most of them don't have the audacity to make a public service announcement about the sanctity of marriage shortly before going home and sleeping with their third wife.

Yeah....and? What's the problem? He's only a messenger for an idea that's been lingering throughout modern human history. No one is perfect, but you're implying that it is reprehensible to inspire others to strive for perfection.

If you can't live the message....don't preach it to others.
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#25 moneymatterz
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Because most of them don't have the audacity to make a public service announcement about the sanctity of marriage shortly before going home and sleeping with their third wife.

SF_KiLLaMaN

Yeah....and? What's the problem? He's only a messenger for an idea that's been lingering all throughout modern human history.

lol. are you serious? He's a total hypocrite. You don't preach something and go against it yourself, what kind of message does that send to everyone else? "Yeah, you shouldn't do that, but it's OK for me to do it."

Life's full of hypocrites. Get over it. Also, people can change, which is why I pose the question: Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

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#26 SauceKing
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[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

You know, what's funny is that the vast majority of libs would jump at the chance to commit adultery with a woman who is:

  • Hotter than what they already have
  • Wealthier than what they already have

Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

moneymatterz

because social conservatives govern from an admittedly illogical stance. God being the reasoning.

Illogical by whose admission?

government intervention being on behalf of god, or a god...

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#27 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Because most of them don't have the audacity to make a public service announcement about the sanctity of marriage shortly before going home and sleeping with their third wife.

LJS9502_basic

Yeah....and? What's the problem? He's only a messenger for an idea that's been lingering throughout modern human history. No one is perfect, but you're implying that it is reprehensible to inspire others to strive for perfection.

If you can't live the message....don't preach it to others.

Agreed. Doing so in that manner will only hurt your cause.
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Because most of them don't have the audacity to make a public service announcement about the sanctity of marriage shortly before going home and sleeping with their third wife.

LJS9502_basic

Yeah....and? What's the problem? He's only a messenger for an idea that's been lingering throughout modern human history. No one is perfect, but you're implying that it is reprehensible to inspire others to strive for perfection.

If you can't live the message....don't preach it to others.

Ideally, leadership by example is the way to go. However, I say again that no one is perfect.

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#29 RandoIph
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Life's full of hypocrites. Get over it. Also, people can change, which is why I pose the question: Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?moneymatterz
So I guess he sent a telepathic message to Zombie Jesus and asked for forgiveness and we should forget it and not hold him to account for what he says are his former ways? I'm pretty sure he declared that to be his "former" ways after the first divorce too.
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#30 GazaAli
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I find myself constantly shocked by the US republican party. The kinds of candidates they have and the way they handle power in the US congress is really disturbing. The US is a developed country, not a third world developing sh!t hole, I have no idea how they exist in their current form.
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government intervention being on behalf of god, or a god...SauceKing
That we've had presidents and members of congress making laws and taking military action based on the wishes of their imaginary friend is deeply disturbing to me. Which is why I'm glad we have a closet atheist as president right now.
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#32 moneymatterz
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

because social conservatives govern from an admittedly illogical stance. God being the reasoning.

SauceKing

Illogical by whose admission?

government intervention being on behalf of god, or a god...

....Yeah....Get back to me when you can string together something coherent. Then we'll focus on the substance of your responses.

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Cry about it.

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I find myself constantly shocked by the US republican party. The kinds of candidates they have and the way they handle power in the US congress is really disturbing. The US is a developed country, not a third world developing sh!t hole, I have no idea how they exist in their current form.GazaAli
I'm sure you have plenty of political parties in the middle east who get votes only because of the religious fervor they display in public. I'm sure Israel has such things going on, I'm sure it happens in India with the Hindu's as well. That is what happens with the Republicans. They make a big show in public of being "Christians" and promise to continue to impose Christian law on everyone through the laws of the government, thus Christians by and large vote for them without question, even if all the other policy positions of the party are directly dis-advantageous to their daily lives.
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Because most of them don't have the audacity to make a public service announcement about the sanctity of marriage shortly before going home and sleeping with their third wife.

Dark_Knight6

Yeah....and? What's the problem? He's only a messenger for an idea that's been lingering throughout modern human history. No one is perfect, but you're implying that it is reprehensible to inspire others to strive for perfection.

No, I am saying that if you are a hypocritical piece of **** people will call you out for being a hypocritical piece of ****

Okay have at it! His formerly adulterous ways have no bearing on how he will perform as President.

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But the US, as I said, is a developed country. Also something interesting is that I view myself as a religious Muslim but would never vote to right-winged Islamic party. I generally feel that lefties are much easier to deal with/live along with.
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Yeah....and? What's the problem? He's only a messenger for an idea that's been lingering all throughout modern human history.

moneymatterz

lol. are you serious? He's a total hypocrite. You don't preach something and go against it yourself, what kind of message does that send to everyone else? "Yeah, you shouldn't do that, but it's OK for me to do it."

Life's full of hypocrites. Get over it. Also, people can change, which is why I pose the question: Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

I don't understand how you can just say "He's probably changed." Why not jump on him for his actions? If he makes extremely poor decision in his life why would you think he wouldn't make poor decisions in the White House? That's just asinine.
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Okay have at it! His formerly adulterous ways have no bearing on how he will perform as President.moneymatterz
he declared his adulterous ways to be "former" after the first divorce. >.>
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Yeah....and? What's the problem? He's only a messenger for an idea that's been lingering throughout modern human history. No one is perfect, but you're implying that it is reprehensible to inspire others to strive for perfection.

moneymatterz

No, I am saying that if you are a hypocritical piece of **** people will call you out for being a hypocritical piece of ****

Okay have at it! His formerly adulterous ways have no bearing on how he will perform as President.

I did not say that it would. I gave you the reason, or a reason, for people calling him out on being a deplorable human being.

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>Doesn't want gay marriage because sanctity of marriage >Been married three times scumbagnewt.jpg
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But the US, as I said, is a developed country. Also something interesting is that I view myself as a religious Muslim but would never vote to right-winged Islamic party. I generally feel that lefties are much easier to deal with/live along with.GazaAli
Yeah, it is. But the majority of people are Christians who wish to see all people in the country forced to bow to and live within Christian "morals" and laws, and they are represented by the most well funded political machines in the country. All while using being an oppressed minority as a rallying cry, and the crazy thing is... that sh*t actually works! At least, in MERICUH it does. In AMERICA, not so much. But MERICUH and America are essentially two different countries.
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]Life's full of hypocrites. Get over it. Also, people can change, which is why I pose the question: Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?RandoIph
So I guess he sent a telepathic message to Zombie Jesus and asked for forgiveness and we should forget it and not hold him to account for what he says are his former ways? I'm pretty sure he declared that to be his "former" ways after the first divorce too.

Careful, friend. I can see you frothing at the mouth. Anyay, his personal life has been held accountable for his formerly adulterous ways. Adultery has nothing to do with being President. In anticipation of your predictable response, I will remind you that Jefferson, JFK, Clinton, and others have all committed acts of adultery.

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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

No, I am saying that if you are a hypocritical piece of **** people will call you out for being a hypocritical piece of ****

Dark_Knight6

Okay have at it! His formerly adulterous ways have no bearing on how he will perform as President.

I did not say that it would. I gave you the reason, or a reason, for people calling him out on being a deplorable human being.

This is exactly why I'm of the opinion that his ethics violations should be the focus of his opponents. People can always claim that his personal life has no bearing on how he'll govern (outside of the blatant hypocrisy employs, of course), but he's already proven that he's an unethical and ineffective leader. Why bother with his personal life when he's already shown that he's a despicable person in his professional life?
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[QUOTE="RandoIph"][QUOTE="moneymatterz"]Life's full of hypocrites. Get over it. Also, people can change, which is why I pose the question: Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?moneymatterz

So I guess he sent a telepathic message to Zombie Jesus and asked for forgiveness and we should forget it and not hold him to account for what he says are his former ways? I'm pretty sure he declared that to be his "former" ways after the first divorce too.

Careful, friend. I can see you frothing at the mouth. Anyay, his personal life has been held accountable for his formerly adulterous ways. Adultery has nothing to do with being President. In anticipation of your predictable response, I will remind you that Jefferson, JFK, Clinton, and others have all committed acts of adultery.

None of them as bad as Newts though. I'll ask you this again since you ignored my other post. If he makes bad decisions in his life, what makes you think he won't make bad decision in the White House?
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#45 RandoIph
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In anticipation of your predictable response, I will remind you that Jefferson, JFK, Clinton, and others have all committed acts of adulterymoneymatterz
None of whom actively preached to the rest of the country about family values and the sanctity of marriage while doing it. I'm not a Democrat, I don't have to defend their actions, nor do their actions cancel out the fact that Newt cheated on his wife, married his mistress, swore off his "formerly adulterous ways", and then promptly cheated, divorced, and remarried again. All while preaching the sanctity of marriage as a reason to deny gay couples their civil rights.
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#46 moneymatterz
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[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] lol. are you serious? He's a total hypocrite. You don't preach something and go against it yourself, what kind of message does that send to everyone else? "Yeah, you shouldn't do that, but it's OK for me to do it."SF_KiLLaMaN

Life's full of hypocrites. Get over it. Also, people can change, which is why I pose the question: Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

I don't understand how you can just say "He's probably changed." Why not jump on him for his actions? If he makes extremely poor decision in his life why would you think he wouldn't make poor decisions in the White House? That's just asinine.

Seems like you're jumping to conclusions. Please direct me to the post in which I said, "He's probably changed." As I said in my previous post, his personal life has, in fact, been held accountable for his actions. These are non-issues that libs love to bring up to distract the public. No matter. I encourage you to take the bait and run with this story. CNN's John King tried this tactic at this past Thursday's Presidential Debate. It backfired, causing Gingrinch to further surge in the polls.

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#47 SF_KiLLaMaN
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="moneymatterz"]

Life's full of hypocrites. Get over it. Also, people can change, which is why I pose the question: Why jump on Gingrinch for his formerly adulterous ways?

moneymatterz

I don't understand how you can just say "He's probably changed." Why not jump on him for his actions? If he makes extremely poor decision in his life why would you think he wouldn't make poor decisions in the White House? That's just asinine.

Seems like you're jumping to conclusions. Please direct me to the post in which I said, "He's probably changed." As I said in my previous post, his personal life has, in fact, been held accountable for his actions. These are non-issues that libs love to bring up to distract the public. No matter. I encourage you to rake the bait and run with this story. CNN's John King tried this tactic at this past Thursday's Presidential Debate. It backfired, causing Gingrinch to further surge in the polls.

First of all, I'm not liberal in any way. Second of all, you said formerly as is if he is done with them, which probably isn't true (assumption, I know). How is making awful decisions a non issue? Making decisions is most of what the president does and if he can't make even the obvious ones, why would you expect him to make the difficult ones?

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#48 ShadowMoses900
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Not only that, but the guy has had ethics charges brought against him. I don't know why people don't look at his constant adultery and his ethics issue and still want to vote for him, those arn't things to be proud of people. Those are things he should be ashamed of. But there isn't much to worry about, Romeny will probably get the nominee, sure he's a flp flopper but at least he isn't crazy.

Either way though, next election is going to suck for everyone. It doesn't really matter who you vote for....

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#49 The_Pacific
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Newt and romney are walking contradictions. A liar and a cheater is preaching against gays getting marries. Can't get anymore hypocritical than that.
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#50 RandoIph
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These are non-issues that libs love to bring up to distract the public. No matter. I encourage you to take the bait and run with this story. CNN's John King tried this tactic at this past Thursday's Presidential Debate. It backfired, causing Gingrinch to further surge in the polls.moneymatterz
I'm a conservative.  I'm just not an easily manipulated paranoid religious zealot like the Republicans in SC are.