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#1 EMOEVOLUTION
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Anybody have any ideas?

Preferably something possitive. Every symbol tied to socialism in western society.. is some how negative.

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#2 Assassin1349
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A swastika? Hey it's positive.

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#4 EMOEVOLUTION
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A swastika? Hey it's positive.

Assassin1349

I was thinking of something more like this:

Socialism

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#5 tjm811
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This is very true and very unfortunate. Even the word socialism for some reason leaves a dirty taste in the mouth of Americans. It seems everyone was up in arms (not literally) against obama for being a "socialist". Although I'm sure half of these people didn't fully understand the term, the term itself sparks rage for whatever reason. Perhaps a new word should be used as well like "super awesome fun governement for the people!" or "SAFGP".

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#6 savetehhaloz
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Heres socialism at its best.

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#7 majoras_wrath
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http://vivirlatino.com/i/2008/09/hugo-chavez.jpg

Heres socialism at its best.

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That, my friend, is called a dictator.
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#8 deactivated-5f1dda6571ed7
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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]

Anybody have any ideas?

Preferably something possitive. Every symbol tied to socialism in western society.. is some how negative.

hhmmm not western, how about starving people/children in china.... great leap forward
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#9 EMOEVOLUTION
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http://vivirlatino.com/i/2008/09/hugo-chavez.jpg

Heres socialism at its best.

savetehhaloz
no, that's not what I'm looking for. I need a friendly symbol that makes people feel good. It's going to be my campaign logo when I run for president and become the first socialist president in the history of the USA.
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#10 EMOEVOLUTION
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[QUOTE="Unknownmuncher"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]

Anybody have any ideas?

Preferably something possitive. Every symbol tied to socialism in western society.. is some how negative.

hhmmm not western, how about starving people/children in china.... great leap forward

I think sweden is a better representation of socialism than china.
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#11 savetehhaloz
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[QUOTE="savetehhaloz"]

http://vivirlatino.com/i/2008/09/hugo-chavez.jpg

Heres socialism at its best.

EMOEVOLUTION
no, that's not what I'm looking for. I need a friendly symbol that makes people feel good. It's going to be my campaign logo when I run for president and become the first socialist president in the history of the USA.

The USA already has. His name is Obama.
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#12 Commander-Gree
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A swastika? Hey it's positive.

Assassin1349
This came to mind.
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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="savetehhaloz"]

http://vivirlatino.com/i/2008/09/hugo-chavez.jpg

Heres socialism at its best.

savetehhaloz
no, that's not what I'm looking for. I need a friendly symbol that makes people feel good. It's going to be my campaign logo when I run for president and become the first socialist president in the history of the USA.

The USA already has. His name is Obama.

Please. Obama is no socialist. He is center left if anything.
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[QUOTE="savetehhaloz"]

http://vivirlatino.com/i/2008/09/hugo-chavez.jpg

Heres socialism at its best.

EMOEVOLUTION

no, that's not what I'm looking for. I need a friendly symbol that makes people feel good. It's going to be my campaign logo when I run for president and become the first socialist president in the history of the USA.

After reading your views, you are too radical to even be mentioned as a candidate..

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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="savetehhaloz"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] no, that's not what I'm looking for. I need a friendly symbol that makes people feel good. It's going to be my campaign logo when I run for president and become the first socialist president in the history of the USA.

The USA already has. His name is Obama.

Please. Obama is no socialist. He is center left if anything.

Exactly. Socialism is the step before communism.
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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="Unknownmuncher"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]

Anybody have any ideas?

Preferably something possitive. Every symbol tied to socialism in western society.. is some how negative.

hhmmm not western, how about starving people/children in china.... great leap forward

I think sweden is a better representation of socialism than china.

u asked for a none western picture of socialism, i delivered
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#17 taj7575
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="savetehhaloz"] The USA already has. His name is Obama.savetehhaloz
Please. Obama is no socialist. He is center left if anything.

Exactly. Socialism is the step before communism.

Center left means he's a moderate.

It's okay though. People who think Obama is even close to a Socialist or a Communist probably know nothing about politics ;)

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#18 majoras_wrath
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[QUOTE="savetehhaloz"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Please. Obama is no socialist. He is center left if anything.taj7575

Exactly. Socialism is the step before communism.

Center left means he's a moderate.

It's okay though. People who think Obama is even close to a Socialist or a Communist probably know nothing about politics ;)

I actually meant slightly more liberal then a moderate, but thank you. I am sick of wingnuts claiming Obama is a communist "AS BAD AS HITLER :roll: I seriously doubt anyone who is not in the range of a moderate will ever get elected. Thankfully the US has a lot of sane, centered people left.
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[QUOTE="savetehhaloz"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Please. Obama is no socialist. He is center left if anything.taj7575

Exactly. Socialism is the step before communism.

Center left means he's a moderate.

It's okay though. People who think Obama is even close to a Socialist or a Communist probably know nothing about politics ;)


This usually seems to be the case. The same people usually call him a nazi socialist terrorist who hates the US's freedom. Oh and hes a facist as well, did you know that?

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#20 savetehhaloz
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="savetehhaloz"] Exactly. Socialism is the step before communism. majoras_wrath

Center left means he's a moderate.

It's okay though. People who think Obama is even close to a Socialist or a Communist probably know nothing about politics ;)

I actually meant slightly more liberal then a moderate, but thank you. I am sick of wingnuts claiming Obama is a communist "AS BAD AS HITLER :roll: I seriously doubt anyone who is not in the range of a moderate will ever get elected. Thankfully the US has a lot of sane, centered people left.

The USA needs a bipartisan president. All this party in fighting is a waste of time.
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#21 taj7575
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="savetehhaloz"] Exactly. Socialism is the step before communism. majoras_wrath

Center left means he's a moderate.

It's okay though. People who think Obama is even close to a Socialist or a Communist probably know nothing about politics ;)

I actually meant slightly more liberal then a moderate, but thank you. I am sick of wingnuts claiming Obama is a communist "AS BAD AS HITLER :roll: I seriously doubt anyone who is not in the range of a moderate will ever get elected. Thankfully the US has a lot of sane, centered people left.

Yeah I meant to say Moderate Liberal.

I agree though, elected officials are usually pretty moderate.

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#22 taj7575
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="savetehhaloz"] Exactly. Socialism is the step before communism. carrot-cake

Center left means he's a moderate.

It's okay though. People who think Obama is even close to a Socialist or a Communist probably know nothing about politics ;)


This usually seems to be the case. The same people usually call him a nazi socialist terrorist who hates the US's freedom. Oh and hes a facist as well, did you know that?

No, I did not know that. I learn something new about Obama every day! :o:P

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#23 coolbeans90
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Nothing comes to mind at the moment. The combination of being tired, not particularly artistically oriented, and rather biased against socialism isn't too helpful. If I think of something, I'll let you know. I would suggest an symbol that succinctly shows progression gained through cooperative action. (if you want to gain a positive view from the west, I would suggest avoiding any connotations of economic coercion...)

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#24 majoras_wrath
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="taj7575"]

Center left means he's a moderate.

It's okay though. People who think Obama is even close to a Socialist or a Communist probably know nothing about politics ;)

savetehhaloz

I actually meant slightly more liberal then a moderate, but thank you. I am sick of wingnuts claiming Obama is a communist "AS BAD AS HITLER :roll: I seriously doubt anyone who is not in the range of a moderate will ever get elected. Thankfully the US has a lot of sane, centered people left.

The USA needs a bipartisan president. All this party in fighting is a waste of time.

I think a bipartisian president would be an awful idea. As much of a moderate rightist that I am, I see what indecisiveness does. We need centered people willing to consider all options, but at the end of the day they have to lean in some parties direction to get a decision.

Our government is slow enough as it is, we can't have a Chief Waffler.

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#25 starky729
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I am sick of wingnuts claiming Obama is a communist "AS BAD AS HITLER"

Meh... It happened with Bush, it'll happen with Obama. Nothing will stop it from both sides. To be honest, I don't understand how hateful people can be toward the president. When we had Bush, people i knew just would say things about how he should be killed and bla bla bla... I hear the same about Obama too. I can't believe how people would actually wish harm upon them though even if you dont agree.

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#26 majoras_wrath
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I am sick of wingnuts claiming Obama is a communist "AS BAD AS HITLER"

Meh... It happened with Bush, it'll happen with Obama. Nothing will stop it from both sides. To be honest, I don't understand how hateful people can be toward the president. When we had Bush, people i knew just would say things about how he should be killed and bla bla bla... I hear the same about Obama too. I can't believe how people would actually wish harm upon them though.

It is sad isn't it? Bush wasn't a very good president, but he was not as bad as everyone howled about However, I do believe Bush abused his powers and for that reason I strongly dislike the man.
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use this!

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#28 EMOEVOLUTION
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use this!

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I don't think that would go over very well in the USA.

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#29 carrot-cake
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

use this!

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I don't think that would go over very well in the USA.


But everybody likes Canada! Seriously, who doesnt?

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use this!

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Firstly, I was unaware Canada was socialist. Secondly, all the Canadians have going for them is hockey :P (that means it's a joke. do not mod me mods!!)

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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="taj7575"]

Center left means he's a moderate.

It's okay though. People who think Obama is even close to a Socialist or a Communist probably know nothing about politics ;)

savetehhaloz

I actually meant slightly more liberal then a moderate, but thank you. I am sick of wingnuts claiming Obama is a communist "AS BAD AS HITLER :roll: I seriously doubt anyone who is not in the range of a moderate will ever get elected. Thankfully the US has a lot of sane, centered people left.

The USA needs a bipartisan president. All this party in fighting is a waste of time.

wasn't Obama talking about that reaching across the aisle business?

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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

use this!

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I don't think that would go over very well in the USA.

sure it would. Americans love Canadians.

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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

use this!

coolbeans90

Firstly, I was unaware Canada was socialist. Secondly, all the Canadians have going for them is hockey :P (that means it's a joke. do not mod me mods!!)

All someone needs to have going for them is hockey. God was a hockey player.

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#34 deactivated-5f1dda6571ed7
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

use this!

Firstly, I was unaware Canada was socialist. Secondly, all the Canadians have going for them is hockey :P (that means it's a joke. do not mod me mods!!)

All someone needs to have going for them is hockey. God was a hockey player.

unfortunately Canada just lost to the USA in the world juniors, championship game
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#35 one_plum
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Proponents should also consider changing the term. If you're going to describe your ideology as socialism in the western world, you're not going anywhere.

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#36 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

use this!

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Firstly, I was unaware Canada was socialist. Secondly, all the Canadians have going for them is hockey :P (that means it's a joke. do not mod me mods!!)

All someone needs to have going for them is hockey. God was a hockey player.

Agreed. But Canada is socialist? Dunno bout that one dude...

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searching google images with the term socialism.. is really depressing. Everything is so negative.

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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Firstly, I was unaware Canada was socialist. Secondly, all the Canadians have going for them is hockey :P (that means it's a joke. do not mod me mods!!)

Unknownmuncher

All someone needs to have going for them is hockey. God was a hockey player.

unfortunately Canada just lost to the USA in the world juniors, championship game

5 out of the last 6 years as world junoir champions isn't that bad.

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Agreed. But Canada is socialist? Dunno bout that one dude...

coolbeans90

Certain parts of our lifestyle can be called socialist. Far more socialist than the US.

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#40 taj7575
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Use Sweden :P

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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Agreed. But Canada is socialist? Dunno bout that one dude...

BumFluff122

Certain parts of our lifestyle can be called socialist. Far more socialist than the US.

A bit more socialist leaning, but definitely not socialist.

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#42 BumFluff122
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Agreed. But Canada is socialist? Dunno bout that one dude...

coolbeans90

Certain parts of our lifestyle can be called socialist. Far more socialist than the US.

A bit more socialist leaning, but definitely not socialist.

no. Canada is capitalist but far more socialist than the US. That is what the US should be striving for. At least anyone who is serious about bringing more socialism to the US. If you use a symbol that signifies pure socialism more thna likely the residents of the US will see it as pushing communism.

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I took the liberty to create a new symbol myself.

SOCIALISM!!!

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searching google images with the term socialism.. is really depressing. Everything is so negative.

EMOEVOLUTION


You could go with the hand clenching the rose. Or just the rose. Roses are nice.

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*gets out the acidfire balls* I think we know what to do with you.
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#47 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Certain parts of our lifestyle can be called socialist. Far more socialist than the US.

BumFluff122

A bit more socialist leaning, but definitely not socialist.

no. Canada is capitalist but far more socialist than the US. That is what the US should be striving for. At least anyone who is serious about bringing more socialism to the US. If you use a symbol that signifies pure socialism more thna likely the residents of the US will see it as pushing communism.

Fair enough. (it's not "far" more socialist according to government spending to GDP ratios, although a fair portion of the U.S.'s goes to the military...) Except for the fact that the TC asked for a symbol representing socialism. Not Canadian-esque mixed economy. (which is mostly capitalist...)

Anyways, I need to find a symbol that positively portrays capitalism. The dollar $ign just doesn't cut it anymore...

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#48 EMOEVOLUTION
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I took the liberty to create a new symbol myself.

SOCIALISM!!!

CRS98

that's the spirit. That one isn't too bad. Except, it reminds me of Wal-mart.. which isn't a good representation of socialism.

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#50 coolbeans90
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Here's one google gave me. Literally the first image to pop up.

I do not suggest that you use it though...