Some guy has found proof that God exists.

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#1 Lto_thaG
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And he's from Belgium :|
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A bit of Babelfish.

I have been possible localise the exact of the mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia on the basis of a vast literature study. The rest expelled itself. At a place of 7 on 7 miles nature in the past ten thousands years a landscape has moulded, in which several religious effigies being to see. That can be no chance. In this to see I the hand of god. It is not possible nevertheless that the diadem on the head of Jesus is himself according to Google Earth exactly on an altitude of 7,777 feet? Since I believe this, I assume of it therefore also that god knew that Jesus would exist ever. And that satellites would come, which possible would make it to see this.

So...Ready to attack?
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Sorry, I couldn't understand any of that.
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#3 RearNakedChoke
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Well, I know that I'm convinced...

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#4 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="harashawn"] Sorry, I couldn't understand any of that.

Run it through babelfish if you want.
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#5 D3nnyCrane
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Personal proof of a deity? On MY Gamespot? It's more likely than you think...
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lolque?

The Nazca have done better.

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#7 123625
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Yes he has, yes he has...
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#8 dracula_16
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I too know that Jesus is real. I saw him in my burrito.

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#9 harashawn
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I too know that Jesus is real. I saw him in my burrito.

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It's no question that Jesus was real. But whether or not he was the son of God is debatable.
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#10 foxhound_fox
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It's no question that Jesus was real. But whether or not he was the son of God is debatable. harashawn

That is very debatable. Granted, Christianity would probably not have existed had he not been real, but the evidence supporting his existence is vague at best.

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:roll:
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[QUOTE="harashawn"]It's no question that Jesus was real. But whether or not he was the son of God is debatable. foxhound_fox


That is very debatable. Granted, Christianity would probably not have existed had he not been real, but the evidence supporting his existence is vague at best.

Vague ? :?
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#14 foxhound_fox
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Vague ? :?123625

The Bible is not evidence. And there is scant historical records that even suggest that a man named "Jesus Christ" existed.

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I too know that Jesus is real. I saw him in my burrito.

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Really? I saw him in my pasta the other night.
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[QUOTE="harashawn"] Sorry, I couldn't understand any of that.

lol, me either... Did you type that in another language and use some website to translate it to English?
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#17 123625
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[QUOTE="123625"]Vague ? :?foxhound_fox


The Bible is not evidence. And there is scant historical records that even suggest that a man named "Jesus Christ" existed.

How is it not evidence? We have two very famous historians attesting to the christ leader of the a christianity movement. Also you have to consider the other historians that mention him, the church fathers and the gnostic gospels. Why would he not exist :/

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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="harashawn"] Sorry, I couldn't understand any of that.

lol, me either... Did you type that in another language and use some website to translate it to English?

It's dutch..I took a part of the article and ran it through babelfish.
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#19 PlasmaBeam44
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I see nothing in that picture.

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It converted me, that's for sure. I mean 7,777 feet; what's the likelihood of that happening?
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How is it not evidence? We have two very famous historians attesting to the christ leader of the a christianity movement. Also you have to consider the other historians that mention him, the church fathers and the gnostic gospels. Why would he not exist :/123625

How is it evidence? It postulates tons of supernatural and miraculous occurrences that cannot be verified by another source. Which severely undermines its reliability as a historical source.

My point is that the contemporary historical sources don't reference a lot about the guy. Most of the stuff recorded about him was written down long after his death, mostly by people who didn't even know him when he was alive. Which as a result, increases the probability that he didn't exist, from a historical perspective. But I've already stated that Christianity probably wouldn't exist had he not. Its just the evidence supporting his existence is thin and vague at best.

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[QUOTE="123625"]Vague ? :?foxhound_fox


The Bible is not evidence. And there is scant historical records that even suggest that a man named "Jesus Christ" existed.

Actually there is a rather large amount of evidence that Yeshua (aka Jesus) existed. The range from the Christian writings found in the Bible, as well as in Christian writings not included in the Bible. Furthermore, the pagan Roman historian Josepheus explicitly mentions his existence. Some of his followers chose death by stoning while others death by beheading rather than deny his role as a deity. Now as to whether he was the son of God...

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Actually there is a rather large amount of evidence that Yeshua (aka Jesus) existed. The range from the Christian writings found in the Bible, as well as in Christian writings not included in the Bible. Furthermore, the pagan Roman historian Josepheus explicitly mentions his existence. Some of his followers chose death by stoning while others death by beheading rather than deny his role as a deity. Now as to whether he was the son of God...Chemistian

While evidence for Roman citizens was even greater... the evidence is not very solid, espeically given the importance of the person. Josephus was not a contemporary. Why can't people just accept that there is very little evidence for his historical existence? That doesn't have anything to do with the existence of the religion, nor your faith in his miraculous deeds.

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What? A person claiming that natural earth processes that end up looking like some random pattern you might find form to claims that it was made by a god? OMG NO WAI
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I have been possible localise the exact of the mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia on the basis of a vast literature study. The rest expelled itself. At a place of 7 on 7 miles nature in the past ten thousands years a landscape has moulded, in which several religious effigies being to see. That can be no chance. In this to see I the hand of god. It is not possible nevertheless that the diadem on the head of Jesus is himself according to Google Earth exactly on an altitude of 7,777 feet? Since I believe this, I assume of it therefore also that god knew that Jesus would exist ever. And that satellites would come, which possible would make it to see this.

Lto_thaG

For those complaining that they can't understand this, here's a translation of the translation:

"I have possibly found the exact location of Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia after studying a lot of literature. The rest explains itself. Over the course of 10,000 years nature has moulded this location's landscape into several religious effigies. This can be no coincidence. I see the hand of God in this. It is otherwise impossible that you could see the cross of Jesus at an altitude of exactly 7,777 feet (according to Google Earth). It is my belief God knew Jesus would one day exist and that satallites would one day be able to see this structure from space".

At least that's what I think it's saying. The way to read a google/bablefish translation is to just skim over it really fast and completely ignore grammar rules. That way you catch the gist of what the translated text is saying without getting hung up over and confused by the terrible grammar and wording.

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For those complaining that they can't understand this, here's a translation of the translation:

"I have possibly found the exact location of Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia after studying a lot of literature. The rest explains itself. Over the course of 10,000 years nature has moulded this location's landscape into several religious effigies. This can be no coincidence. I see the hand of God in this. It is otherwise impossible that you could see the cross of Jesus at an altitude of exactly 7,777 feet (according to Google Earth). It is my belief God knew Jesus would one day exist and that satallites would one day be able to see this structure from space".

At least that's what I think it's saying. The way to read a google/bablefish translation is to just skim over it really fast and completely ignore grammar rules. That way you catch the gist of what the translated text is saying without getting hung up over and confused by the terrible grammar and wording.

gameguy6700


So basically, its looks "designed" so it must mean that it is.

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#27 RearNakedChoke
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So I was looking at some clouds the other day, and I swear, one looked exactly like a horse.

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Didn't Jesus say that even if he were to raise from the dead, people would not believe in him? No proof of God will ever be enough for one who do not want to believe. His evidence is in his creation, that should be enough.
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No proof of God will ever be enough Silenthps

Exactly.

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How is it evidence? It postulates tons of supernatural and miraculous occurrences that cannot be verified by another source. Which severely undermines its reliability as a historical source.

My point is that the contemporary historical sources don't reference a lot about the guy. Most of the stuff recorded about him was written down long after his death, mostly by people who didn't even know him when he was alive. Which as a result, increases the probability that he didn't exist, from a historical perspective. But I've already stated that Christianity probably wouldn't exist had he not. Its just the evidence supporting his existence is thin and vague at best.

foxhound_fox

Why would you expect contemporary accounts about a guy who was only known to the poor of Jerueselum? He wasn't important enough untill generations later when his followers started congregating, thus recquiring them to give an account for the origins of the christian beleifs. The bible is evidence for the simple reason that it is an anceint document, actually, it's many anceint documents written by many different people. Just because it has supernatural references in it, doesn't disclude an event of such happening (the death of christ is largely testified by everyone in the bible and actual historians). What you mean to say is that the bible is unrealiable evidence, as it is evidence as is any historical document. If Jesus did not exist, how do you explain the spread of christianity and jesus literature and historical testaments to him and his death?

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Didn't Jesus say that even if he were to raise from the dead, people would not believe in him? No proof of God will ever be enough for one who do not want to believe. His evidence is in his creation, that should be enough. Silenthps

please enlighten me on how his 'creations' are his evidence.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]How is it evidence? It postulates tons of supernatural and miraculous occurrences that cannot be verified by another source. Which severely undermines its reliability as a historical source.

My point is that the contemporary historical sources don't reference a lot about the guy. Most of the stuff recorded about him was written down long after his death, mostly by people who didn't even know him when he was alive. Which as a result, increases the probability that he didn't exist, from a historical perspective. But I've already stated that Christianity probably wouldn't exist had he not. Its just the evidence supporting his existence is thin and vague at best.

123625

Why would you expect contemporary accounts about a guy who was only known to the poor of Jerueselum? He wasn't important enough untill generations later when his followers started congregating, thus recquiring them to give an account for the origins of the christian beleifs. The bible is evidence for the simple reason that it is an anceint document, actually, it's many anceint documents written by many different people. Just because it has supernatural references in it, doesn't disclude an event of such happening (the death of christ is largely testified by everyone in the bible and actual historians). What you mean to say is that the bible is unrealiable evidence, as it is evidence as is any historical document. If Jesus did not exist, how do you explain the spread of christianity and jesus literature and historical testaments to him and his death?

two factors.

1. When you spend your life farming in the middle of nowhere or just scraping to live, heaven gives alot of hope.

2. There are alot of retards. Such as killing those that don't quite agree with your interpretation of jesus.

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All I see is a guitar.

Obviously Rorschach is pulling a practical joke on us from beyond the grave.

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All I see is a guitar.

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I see a Harmonica in there too. :o Praise be to Bob Dylan.
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[QUOTE="links136"]

two factors.

1. When you spend your life farming in the middle of nowhere or just scraping to live, heaven gives alot of hope.

2. There are alot of retards. Such as killing those that don't quite agree with your interpretation of jesus.

Um, want to be more clear on this? I don't know what your precisely talking about. My interpretation of Jesus? I never interpreted Jesus in this thread other than stating the fact he existed.
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[QUOTE="123625"]Vague ? :?foxhound_fox


The Bible is not evidence. And there is scant historical records that even suggest that a man named "Jesus Christ" existed.

Even liberal scholars would disagree with you. Men like Crossan and Ehrman actually mock those who hold your view and they are by no means christians.

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#40 xPACKx
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no one can ever proof he exists
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no one can ever proof he existsxPACKx
You can't "proof" anything.
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[QUOTE="xPACKx"]no one can ever proof he exists123625
You can't "proof" anything.

You can Proof read.
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Even liberal scholars would disagree with you. Men like Crossan and Ehrman actually mock those who hold your view and they are by no means christians.maheo30

Care to provide some evidence to the contrary? Proving the Bible as a solid historical source that isn't deluded by myth and extravagance?

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God's existence cannot be proven or disproven, that would mess up his grand game with humanity.

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#45 clembo1990
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I know Jesus is real, because Jesus touched me, deep inside, he touched me when I was a kid and that memory has stuck with me of him touching me, and I'm sure he touched all of you too, even if you didn't think he was there.
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[QUOTE="maheo30"]Even liberal scholars would disagree with you. Men like Crossan and Ehrman actually mock those who hold your view and they are by no means christians.foxhound_fox

Care to provide some evidence to the contrary? Proving the Bible as a solid historical source that isn't deluded by myth and extravagance?

credibility fail. It's pretty much accepted as fact by the majority of the historical community that Jesus did exist, regardless of whether he was man or son of god. Secondly, I'm taking a tiny guess that you have heightened your skepticism of his existence, based on his importance as a religious figure. Do you believe that Socrates existed?

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At a place of 7 on 7 miles (...) an altitude of 7,777 feet

Amazing how God used modern measures.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="maheo30"]Even liberal scholars would disagree with you. Men like Crossan and Ehrman actually mock those who hold your view and they are by no means christians.Stumpt25

Care to provide some evidence to the contrary? Proving the Bible as a solid historical source that isn't deluded by myth and extravagance?

credibility fail. It's pretty much accepted as fact by the majority of the historical community that Jesus did exist, regardless of whether he was man or son of god. Secondly, I'm taking a tiny guess that you have heightened your skepticism of his existence, based on his importance as a religious figure. Do you believe that Socrates existed?

No kidding.. there is more evidence of Jesus existing than any person in that period and before him. Do we question whether Julius Caesar existed? There is evidence of even the most remote person in the Bible existing 1000 years before Jesus. Why question him too? I sense a personal reason...
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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xPACKx"]no one can ever proof he existsLocke562
You can't "proof" anything.

You can Proof read.

*You can proof read.
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I'm convinced. :|