Ehm, let's say I was convinced that God was in fact real. I still would never adopt Christianity or any other religion for that matter. I would just keep going about my ways, while not giving a rats ass about where I'm going when I'm dead. I'm sure his mightiness knows that I'm not an evil guy. But yeah this isn't really proof. You can't prove God, he is either real or not, the answer unknown to us in our life times.
Intelligent design is still an arguement used by fundamentalists in favor of God's existance? Please, stick with the theological arguements; at least those prove to have entertainment value in debunking.
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]How is it evidence? It postulates tons of supernatural and miraculous occurrences that cannot be verified by another source. Which severely undermines its reliability as a historical source.
My point is that the contemporary historical sources don't reference a lot about the guy. Most of the stuff recorded about him was written down long after his death, mostly by people who didn't even know him when he was alive. Which as a result, increases the probability that he didn't exist, from a historical perspective. But I've already stated that Christianity probably wouldn't exist had he not. Its just the evidence supporting his existence is thin and vague at best.
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Why would you expect contemporary accounts about a guy who was only known to the poor of Jerueselum? He wasn't important enough untill generations later when his followers started congregating, thus recquiring them to give an account for the origins of the christian beleifs. The bible is evidence for the simple reason that it is an anceint document, actually, it's many anceint documents written by many different people. Just because it has supernatural references in it, doesn't disclude an event of such happening (the death of christ is largely testified by everyone in the bible and actual historians). What you mean to say is that the bible is unrealiable evidence, as it is evidence as is any historical document. If Jesus did not exist, how do you explain the spread of christianity and jesus literature and historical testaments to him and his death?How did christianity spread so much if he had died on the cross and that there were only a handful of followers at that time?
How did christianity spread so much if he had died on the cross and that there were only a handful of followers at that time?
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Arguably because of Paul, without him I doubt christianitiy's spread would have been much more slow. (He preached that the Gospel was to be taught to everyone, not just the jews).
And I also beleive the desciples were responsible for spreading the faith as well. But no Doubt Paul was the most influential.
okay so what 7777 feet? What about meters? The number then wouldnt be so significant. and i see NOTHING in that picture. People see what they want to see.
The Bible is not evidence. And there is scant historical records that even suggest that a man named "Jesus Christ" existed. How is it not evidence? We have two very famous historians attesting to the christ leader of the a christianity movement. Also you have to consider the other historians that mention him, the church fathers and the gnostic gospels. Why would he not exist :/ so then i guess star wars is true then? there's tons of literature referencing the universe's existence. million of books, graphic novels, comic books, video games, movies, etc. even more corraborating evidence than the bible has. heck, we even have VIDEO EVIDENCE of the star wars universe existing, in a galaxy far far away.(about 7-8 hours of it too.) all the evidence of jesus being the son of god is 1 book, and a few random corraborating journals, historic documents, etc. i'd say from a logical standpoint it's more likely that the star wars universe exists than all of these religious fairytales.
[QUOTE="harashawn"]It's no question that Jesus was real. But whether or not he was the son of God is debatable. foxhound_fox
That is very debatable. Granted, Christianity would probably not have existed had he not been real, but the evidence supporting his existence is vague at best.read one heart beat away by mark cahill. within is all the proof you will need
Does someone remember the moon in a gaming magazine that supposedly contained hidden hints about a future announcement? People found all kinds of wacky images in those lines of the moon.
So this proves little to me. But i think certain elements of Christianity are rationally speaking very likely. And some things like the great vibe that fills You when being in a church, shouldn't just be ignored.
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