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#1 TheDonFanucci
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I am an American, and I don't watch soccer. I would love to start getting into it, but unfortunately I don't know enough about it, and it isn't televised enough (aside from the World Cup) for me to start following it on a regular basis. That said, I do understand the basic strategy of the sport, and when I watch it on TV I kind of get what's going on, but it seems like every time I talk to a 'soccer fan' (usually an American band wagon World Cup fan) they rave and rave about how soccer is a chess match and how it has elements of American football, baseball, basketball, and hockey - all rolled into one.

Am I completely missing something? I don't see that when I watch these games, and here I am sitting in my house watching the Finals trying to understand how the above statement can be true. What do I not see that everyone else does?

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I dont see how its related to theelements of American football, baseball, basketball, and hockey - all rolled into one.

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Whereabouts do you live? Just wondering, I'm positive you have soccer televised regularly near you.
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#4 TheDonFanucci
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I dont see how its related to theelements of American football, baseball, basketball, and hockey - all rolled into one.

T_REX305

Okay, not many people say that, but I have heard said before. What I'm more curious about is the 'chess match' statement. How is soccer a chess match?

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Whereabouts do you live? Just wondering, I'm positive you have soccer televised regularly near you.bluezy

New York, but I mean I want to watch the UEFA, not the MLS.

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[QUOTE="bluezy"]Whereabouts do you live? Just wondering, I'm positive you have soccer televised regularly near you.TheDonFanucci

New York, but I mean I want to watch the UEFA, not the MLS.

Then wait a month, European leagues don't start til August or so. And what's wrong with watching MLS? Many UEFA players began there.
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The finals on atm are extremely cagey and you can see why due to how much is at stake. It's a game based on speed, strength and mental ability which is possibly what the people you mentioned are getting at. PS- it's FOOTBALL.
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#8 TheDonFanucci
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[QUOTE="TheDonFanucci"]

[QUOTE="bluezy"]Whereabouts do you live? Just wondering, I'm positive you have soccer televised regularly near you.bluezy

New York, but I mean I want to watch the UEFA, not the MLS.

Then wait a month, European leagues don't start til August or so. And what's wrong with watching MLS? Many UEFA players began there.

Who besides Landon Donovan? Also, you're telling me that UEFA is broadcasted on American television? What station?

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#9 bluezy
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[QUOTE="T_REX305"]

I dont see how its related to theelements of American football, baseball, basketball, and hockey - all rolled into one.

TheDonFanucci

Okay, not many people say that, but I have heard said before. What I'm more curious about is the 'chess match' statement. How is soccer a chess match?

Because normally it's a series of small moves that you wouldn't think would amount to much, and all of a sudden there's a quick break and a goal. In chess you can have a series of small moves with pawns, but then it develops into something bigger.
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[QUOTE="bluezy"]Whereabouts do you live? Just wondering, I'm positive you have soccer televised regularly near you.TheDonFanucci

New York, but I mean I want to watch the UEFA, not the MLS.

EUFA is a governing body of European football. Do you mean European leagues like Bundesliga, Premier league & La Liga?
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#11 TheDonFanucci
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The finals on atm are extremely cagey and you can see why due to how much is at stake. It's a game based on speed, strength and mental ability which is possibly what the people you mentioned are getting at. PS- it's FOOTBALL.mikegtfc

Hahaha, I mean look I'm American, so I'll call it soccer. Even still, when I think of chess I think of a thinking game that involves a lot of strategy and a lot of thinking ahead of your opponent. How does that relate to soccer? I mean it doesn't seem like you can think ahead of your opponent for more than a pass a two.

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[QUOTE="T_REX305"]

I dont see how its related to theelements of American football, baseball, basketball, and hockey - all rolled into one.

TheDonFanucci

Okay, not many people say that, but I have heard said before. What I'm more curious about is the 'chess match' statement. How is soccer a chess match?

Soccer is a chess match because while it may appear to be a random free-flowing game of passing the ball around, both teams actually stick to fairly strict formations. Different teams have different strategies, but in general the aim of the game is to pick the right formation to complement your teams talents to move the ball up the pitch and 'create a chance'. Total number of chances is always the statistic punters talk about at the end of game. On the flip side, the other team's defense must effectively stave off your offensive moves and counter-attack with their own formation. Teams will also have very specific formations and plays for 'set pieces', those being free-kicks near the goal, corner kicks and likewise. In that respect it is like a game of chess, as while it is free-flowing and not a rigid, stop-start game like the NFL, it involves very intricate tactics and formations.
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[QUOTE="TheDonFanucci"]

[QUOTE="bluezy"]Whereabouts do you live? Just wondering, I'm positive you have soccer televised regularly near you.mikegtfc

New York, but I mean I want to watch the UEFA, not the MLS.

EUFA is a governing body of European football. Do you mean European leagues like Bundesliga, Premier league & La Liga?

Maybe he means the UEFA Champions League?
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i think the chess match is because of the tactics. after american football and rugby i think football is one of the most tacticallydeep games. there are many tactics/strategies that can be used.
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[QUOTE="bluezy"][QUOTE="TheDonFanucci"]

New York, but I mean I want to watch the UEFA, not the MLS.

TheDonFanucci

Then wait a month, European leagues don't start til August or so. And what's wrong with watching MLS? Many UEFA players began there.

Who besides Landon Donovan? Also, you're telling me that UEFA is broadcasted on American television? What station?

ESPN2 carries UEFA games, and the two Fox Sports stations I get carry a handful of English Premier League games.
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#16 TheDonFanucci
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[QUOTE="TheDonFanucci"]

[QUOTE="bluezy"]Whereabouts do you live? Just wondering, I'm positive you have soccer televised regularly near you.mikegtfc

New York, but I mean I want to watch the UEFA, not the MLS.

EUFA is a governing body of European football. Do you mean European leagues like Bundesliga, Premier league & La Liga?

See this is where I don't know anything about 'football.' Which league should I be following if I want to really get into it? Premier? I mean I watched some of the Champions league this year too, but I honestly don't know the difference between any of these leagues.

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#17 bluezy
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[QUOTE="bluezy"][QUOTE="TheDonFanucci"]

New York, but I mean I want to watch the UEFA, not the MLS.

TheDonFanucci

Then wait a month, European leagues don't start til August or so. And what's wrong with watching MLS? Many UEFA players began there.

Who besides Landon Donovan? Also, you're telling me that UEFA is broadcasted on American television? What station?

Landon Donovan doesn't play in Europe, he only did a trial or two there. Most of the US national players play in Europe (UEFA territory), but began in MLS. And UEFA Champions League (best club teams from all over Europe) is broadcast on Fox Sports Net, Fox Soccer Channel, Fox Soccer Plus and DirecTV. Or online, if you so choose (the better option). Same goes for top leagues in Europe like the English Premier League and La Liga.
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[QUOTE="mikegtfc"]The finals on atm are extremely cagey and you can see why due to how much is at stake. It's a game based on speed, strength and mental ability which is possibly what the people you mentioned are getting at. PS- it's FOOTBALL.TheDonFanucci

Hahaha, I mean look I'm American, so I'll call it soccer. Even still, when I think of chess I think of a thinking game that involves a lot of strategy and a lot of thinking ahead of your opponent. How does that relate to soccer? I mean it doesn't seem like you can think ahead of your opponent for more than a pass a two.

Think set pieces - Corners, throw-ins, free-kicks are all strategic. You need to watch more football as players are always moving to work around the opponents, such as you can pass to one player whilst another player is making a breaking run for the next pass.
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[QUOTE="mikegtfc"][QUOTE="TheDonFanucci"]

New York, but I mean I want to watch the UEFA, not the MLS.

FPS_Gamer123

EUFA is a governing body of European football. Do you mean European leagues like Bundesliga, Premier league & La Liga?

Maybe he means the UEFA Champions League?

Champions Leage > any other football leage/tournament, including the world cup. :P

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[QUOTE="TheDonFanucci"]

[QUOTE="T_REX305"]

I dont see how its related to theelements of American football, baseball, basketball, and hockey - all rolled into one.

Ninja-Hippo

Okay, not many people say that, but I have heard said before. What I'm more curious about is the 'chess match' statement. How is soccer a chess match?

Soccer is a chess match because while it may appear to be a random free-flowing game of passing the ball around, both teams actually stick to fairly strict formations. Different teams have different strategies, but in general the aim of the game is to pick the right formation to complement your teams talents to move the ball up the pitch and 'create a chance'. Total number of chances is always the statistic punters talk about at the end of game. On the flip side, the other team's defense must effectively stave off your offensive moves and counter-attack with their own formation. Teams will also have very specific formations and plays for 'set pieces', those being free-kicks near the goal, corner kicks and likewise. In that respect it is like a game of chess, as while it is free-flowing and not a rigid, stop-start game like the NFL, it involves very intricate tactics and formations.

Okay I get the formations, but I don't know the difference between them. I heard a lot of people talking about how the U.S. was a counter attacking team. What does that mean? Are they keeping more midfielders back on the defensive end so that when they get the ball they'll have numbers on the opposing teams defense?

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#21 mikegtfc
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[QUOTE="mikegtfc"][QUOTE="TheDonFanucci"]

New York, but I mean I want to watch the UEFA, not the MLS.

TheDonFanucci

EUFA is a governing body of European football. Do you mean European leagues like Bundesliga, Premier league & La Liga?

See this is where I don't know anything about 'football.' Which league should I be following if I want to really get into it? Premier? I mean I watched some of the Champions league this year too, but I honestly don't know the difference between any of these leagues.

Each country in Eurpope atleast has their own respective leagues at different levels. The EUFA Champions league is a tournament in Europe with all the top teams who reached a top 4 spot in their own country's top league. The Premier league is vastly regarded as the best league, but take that as you will as La Liga(Spain) is also on par.
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See this is where I don't know anything about 'football.' Which league should I be following if I want to really get into it? Premier? I mean I watched some of the Champions league this year too, but I honestly don't know the difference between any of these leagues.

TheDonFanucci

Premier League is the English league and is generally considered one of the best in the world to play in (i don't want to offend anyone or get into a debate about exactly how true that statement is, just generally speaking...). It's where a lot of the world's very best players participate, and it has a good variety of teams so you always get interesting results from the smaller clubs with tiny budgets who manage to hold their own against the giants. In recent years it's become a two-horse race between Manchester United and Chelsea though, but it's still very entertaining and exciting to keep track of.

Other than that the Champions League is amazing to follow. It is the best teams from every league in Europe all put into one in the same sort of format as the World Cup whereby you get knocked out of the competition as the league progresses, building up to a Superbowl-esque final where the winner takes all.

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#23 bluezy
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[QUOTE="mikegtfc"][QUOTE="TheDonFanucci"]

New York, but I mean I want to watch the UEFA, not the MLS.

TheDonFanucci

EUFA is a governing body of European football. Do you mean European leagues like Bundesliga, Premier league & La Liga?

See this is where I don't know anything about 'football.' Which league should I be following if I want to really get into it? Premier? I mean I watched some of the Champions league this year too, but I honestly don't know the difference between any of these leagues.

Each country has its own league. Bundesliga is German, Barclay's Premier League is England, La Liga is Spain. Any of those are good, though you're more than likely to find English football/soccer on TV.
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Some guys try to kick a ball into some other guys' goal, and vice versa. Also, vuvuzelas.
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#25 T_REX305
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[QUOTE="TheDonFanucci"]

[QUOTE="T_REX305"]

I dont see how its related to theelements of American football, baseball, basketball, and hockey - all rolled into one.

Ninja-Hippo

Okay, not many people say that, but I have heard said before. What I'm more curious about is the 'chess match' statement. How is soccer a chess match?

Soccer is a chess match because while it may appear to be a random free-flowing game of passing the ball around, both teams actually stick to fairly strict formations.

right you are ;)

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Okay I get the formations, but I don't know the difference between them. I heard a lot of people talking about how the U.S. was a counter attacking team. What does that mean? Are they keeping more midfielders back on the defensive end so that when they get the ball they'll have numbers on the opposing teams defense?

TheDonFanucci

It's nothing like the NFL where you can actually know all the different plays. Different teams have completely different strategies which they change up all the time. The fun is watching them work/fail in a game.

A counter-attacking team is one which focuses on defense rather than pushing the ball up the pitch. They hang back, defend their own goal area and then when they manage to get the ball very quickly charge their way up to the other end of the field to try and score while the other team tries to rush back to their own half.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="TheDonFanucci"]

Okay, not many people say that, but I have heard said before. What I'm more curious about is the 'chess match' statement. How is soccer a chess match?

TheDonFanucci

Soccer is a chess match because while it may appear to be a random free-flowing game of passing the ball around, both teams actually stick to fairly strict formations. Different teams have different strategies, but in general the aim of the game is to pick the right formation to complement your teams talents to move the ball up the pitch and 'create a chance'. Total number of chances is always the statistic punters talk about at the end of game. On the flip side, the other team's defense must effectively stave off your offensive moves and counter-attack with their own formation. Teams will also have very specific formations and plays for 'set pieces', those being free-kicks near the goal, corner kicks and likewise. In that respect it is like a game of chess, as while it is free-flowing and not a rigid, stop-start game like the NFL, it involves very intricate tactics and formations.

Okay I get the formations, but I don't know the difference between them. I heard a lot of people talking about how the U.S. was a counter attacking team. What does that mean? Are they keeping more midfielders back on the defensive end so that when they get the ball they'll have numbers on the opposing teams defense?

Counter-attacking is basically what it means, when the opponents are attacking and the ball ends up back to your team you have kept your players in and around midfield to feed them the ball and make a break. This usually applies to fast teams such as Germany in this World cup.
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Here is counter attacking.

It's basically hanging back in your own area to pull the other team away from their goal, then getting the ball and charging up the field as fast as you can while they try and rush back into defensive positions.

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You don´t explain football,you feel it.;)

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It's more like a game of checkers. And no, it has no elements of any of those sports. It's just a bunch of fairies kicking a ball around.
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Keep possession of the ball until there is an opening. Shoot. Repeat until goal is scored. Once collecting the only score in the entire 90+ minutes, roll on the ground to run the clock out.
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#32 -Tish-
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You watch other sports right? It's not that much different. In fact it's quite self explanitory really. :| I learned a lot about the game on my own just watching Euro2008 and the World Cup.
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It's more like a game of checkers. And no, it has no elements of any of those sports. It's just a bunch of fairies kicking a ball around.Dark__Link
You forgot the trollface.jpg pic.
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I wouldnt say its all those sports put together.

Anyway I would suggest you continue to watch it. Eventually everything will come together and you will start seeing what soccer fans see.

Soccer games arent televised very often, but i suggest you do what i do and find live internet streams to watch it. You can catch almost any game that way.

Finally I would suggest as an American to watch and support MLS. Sure the quality isnt on par with the big leagues, but it is still entertaining, and the more support MLS recieves the better the league will get, the better the league gets the better the US national team gets, the better the national team gets the higher chance we have of winning a world cup. MLS isnt as technically impressive, but with more support it will be.

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I wouldnt say its all those sports put together.

Anyway I would suggest you continue to watch it. Eventually everything will come together and you will start seeing what soccer fans see.

Soccer games arent televised very often, but i suggest you do what i do and find live internet streams to watch it. You can catch almost any game that way.

Finally I would suggest as an American to watch and support MLS. Sure the quality isnt on par with the big leagues, but it is still entertaining, and the more support MLS recieves the better the league will get, the better the league gets the better the US national team gets, the better the national team gets the higher chance we have of winning a world cup. MLS isnt as technically impressive, but with more support it will be.

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It's more exciting, if you ask me. Parity and a salary cap means you don't always know who's going to win. Hell, New England, fresh off a 5-0 loss to Real Salt Lake, just hosed league-leading Los Angeles 2-0 last night. Nobody would've suspected that. England can sometimes be a real snoozer because you know who's going to win ahead of time.
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

I wouldnt say its all those sports put together.

Anyway I would suggest you continue to watch it. Eventually everything will come together and you will start seeing what soccer fans see.

Soccer games arent televised very often, but i suggest you do what i do and find live internet streams to watch it. You can catch almost any game that way.

Finally I would suggest as an American to watch and support MLS. Sure the quality isnt on par with the big leagues, but it is still entertaining, and the more support MLS recieves the better the league will get, the better the league gets the better the US national team gets, the better the national team gets the higher chance we have of winning a world cup. MLS isnt as technically impressive, but with more support it will be.

bluezy

It's more exciting, if you ask me. Parity and a salary cap means you don't always know who's going to win. Hell, New England, fresh off a 5-0 loss to Real Salt Lake, just hosed league-leading Los Angeles 2-0 last night. Nobody would've suspected that. England can sometimes be a real snoozer because you know who's going to win ahead of time.

Thats exactly how I feel. Its just hard convincing others of such. EPL is imo a bore.before the season starts you know that Man United or Chelsea is going to win so why bother watching?

I always found MLS more exciting (even though my bro and dad think i'm crazy) because its personal. I actually care what happens so its more exciting to me. Parity only adds more to the excitement.

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#37 bluezy
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[QUOTE="bluezy"][QUOTE="brennan7777"]

I wouldnt say its all those sports put together.

Anyway I would suggest you continue to watch it. Eventually everything will come together and you will start seeing what soccer fans see.

Soccer games arent televised very often, but i suggest you do what i do and find live internet streams to watch it. You can catch almost any game that way.

Finally I would suggest as an American to watch and support MLS. Sure the quality isnt on par with the big leagues, but it is still entertaining, and the more support MLS recieves the better the league will get, the better the league gets the better the US national team gets, the better the national team gets the higher chance we have of winning a world cup. MLS isnt as technically impressive, but with more support it will be.

brennan7777

It's more exciting, if you ask me. Parity and a salary cap means you don't always know who's going to win. Hell, New England, fresh off a 5-0 loss to Real Salt Lake, just hosed league-leading Los Angeles 2-0 last night. Nobody would've suspected that. England can sometimes be a real snoozer because you know who's going to win ahead of time.

Thats exactly how I feel. Its just hard convincing others of such. EPL is imo a bore.before the season starts you know that Man United or Chelsea is going to win so why bother watching?

I always found MLS more exciting (even though my bro and dad think i'm crazy) because its personal. I actually care what happens so its more exciting to me. Parity only adds more to the excitement.

Absolutely. And the addition of another (up to three, if you pay a little more) Designated Player slot for each team will only add to the quality of play. Yeah, you're one of the few fellow MLS fans around here.
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#38 sogni_belli
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In the United States, you can watch European and Latin American football matches on the following cable/satellite TV stations:

English Premier League - Fox Soccer Channel (FSC) & Fox Sports Espanol (FSE)
Span's La Liga - GolTV
Germany's Bundesliga - GolTV
Italy's Serie A - FSC & FSE
Brazilian, Argentinian, and Colombian football leagues - GolTV

UEFA Champions League - FSC, FSE, Setanta, and special UEFA channels on DirectTV
UEFA Euro Cup - ESPN
Barclay's Cup for the English Premier League - FSC & FSE
Il Scudetto for Italy's Serie A - FSC & FSE

GolTV also broadcasts the Coppa Italia. However, this Italian tournement holds less prestige than Il Scudetto, which involves only the top echelon of Italian football clubs (those within the Serie A).

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#39 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

I wouldnt say its all those sports put together.

Anyway I would suggest you continue to watch it. Eventually everything will come together and you will start seeing what soccer fans see.

Soccer games arent televised very often, but i suggest you do what i do and find live internet streams to watch it. You can catch almost any game that way.

Finally I would suggest as an American to watch and support MLS. Sure the quality isnt on par with the big leagues, but it is still entertaining, and the more support MLS recieves the better the league will get, the better the league gets the better the US national team gets, the better the national team gets the higher chance we have of winning a world cup. MLS isnt as technically impressive, but with more support it will be.

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It's more exciting, if you ask me. Parity and a salary cap means you don't always know who's going to win. Hell, New England, fresh off a 5-0 loss to Real Salt Lake, just hosed league-leading Los Angeles 2-0 last night. Nobody would've suspected that. England can sometimes be a real snoozer because you know who's going to win ahead of time.

That's why you support Everton. They can win 3-0 against the biggest teams in the world and then lose to a team of zoo animals. :P
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#40 Ninja-Hippo
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before the season starts you know that Man United or Chelsea is going to win so why bother watching?

brennan7777

Because there's way more to it than that. You support a team and you see how far they can get. The premier league isn't like the world cup or the superbowl where there's one game at the end and someone wins. If you're a Man U or a Chelsea fan it's obviously incredibly exciting as every single game counts. Then if you're a liverpool, arsenal, everton fan etc it's exciting because you need to secure that top 4 finish to qualify for the Champions League. Plus there's always the excitement of just seeing if you can best last year's performance.

So it's not about winning the league by any means. I support Everton for example, and have since i was a kid. That's a team which has absolutely no hope in hell of winning the premier league but i follow them every year and go to as many games as i can because i love hoping and wishing that they can make it into europe and get their hands on a trophy.

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#42 shadow13702
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Soccer is to boring for me to watch. There is barley any excitment other than the goals

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#43 bluezy
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

before the season starts you know that Man United or Chelsea is going to win so why bother watching?

Ninja-Hippo

Because there's way more to it than that. You support a team and you see how far they can get. The premier league isn't like the world cup or the superbowl where there's one game at the end and someone wins. If you're a Man U or a Chelsea fan it's obviously incredibly exciting as every single game counts. Then if you're a liverpool, arsenal, everton fan etc it's exciting because you need to secure that top 4 finish to qualify for the Champions League. Plus there's always the excitement of just seeing if you can best last year's performance.

So it's not about winning the league by any means. I support Everton for example, and have since i was a kid. That's a team which has absolutely no hope in hell of winning the premier league but i follow them every year and go to as many games as i can because i love hoping and wishing that they can make it into europe and get their hands on a trophy.

Of course there's more to it than that, but at the same time the Prem is wildly uneven, and that can make for boring 'ball if you're like me and don't have anything riding on it. I follow my dad's lead and support Liverpool, but at an arm's length, and I'm also happy if Arsenal wins and Man U and Chelsea lose. I'll watch Champions League (both UEFA and CONCACAF) with intense interest, but when it comes to European domestic leagues, meh. There are the Big Four (or what have you, depending on the league) and there are everyone else. It's obviously different depending on your situation and who you support, though, and I completely understand that.
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To appreciate it you really have to play. Just the fluidity and gracefulness of the whole thing.
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#45 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

before the season starts you know that Man United or Chelsea is going to win so why bother watching?

Ninja-Hippo

Because there's way more to it than that. You support a team and you see how far they can get. The premier league isn't like the world cup or the superbowl where there's one game at the end and someone wins. If you're a Man U or a Chelsea fan it's obviously incredibly exciting as every single game counts. Then if you're a liverpool, arsenal, everton fan etc it's exciting because you need to secure that top 4 finish to qualify for the Champions League. Plus there's always the excitement of just seeing if you can best last year's performance.

So it's not about winning the league by any means. I support Everton for example, and have since i was a kid. That's a team which has absolutely no hope in hell of winning the premier league but i follow them every year and go to as many games as i can because i love hoping and wishing that they can make it into europe and get their hands on a trophy.

Yeah i understand where you are coming from. I have been an RSL fan in MLS since the club started, and the first years were pretty rough, where i felt the same way as you do, but now that the team is actually in the running it has become so much more exciting. I dont just watch the sport to see my team win, but when there is the prospect that your team has a chance of taking the whole thing it adds a whole new demension to the excitement of the game.

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#46 Ptosio
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Well, here's a book on the subject: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Football-Chess-Tactics-Strategy-Beauty/dp/1843821869 Don't know whether it's any good, but it seems to the subject you're intersted in, might be worth checking out. As for the saying "football is like chess", it's just one of the phrases soccer players coin out when they're bored and/or want to sound wise, profound and all. Needles to say, the resoult of this are tragic. This disease seems to especially affect the Germans and the French. Here you have an article about it and other universal truths: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,558638,00.html (Typically we refer by a "chess-like match" to a game that is very closed, defensive, goalless and downright boring for the avarage viewer but supposedly still posseses some mysterious quality for the conesieurs.) Hope you enjoy it. Hope you enjoy it.
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#47 X360PS3AMD05
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Become a fan of Man U