something I noticed about christianity

I noticed something peculiar about Christianity that I never really stopped to fully comprehend. Every supposed supernatural occurrence, every direct interaction with god, every pivotal action of god, every cosmic battle for mankind's fate.......... has either happened in the past or is going to happen in the future. This has been the state of Christianity for two millennia, if not its whole history. Isnt that just convenient, especially for the church? God never acts in the present. Everything important either has happened long ago or is going to happen in far future. Ask yourself why that is. Why would god feel no need to interact during the world-shaping events of the past few centuries? why is is waiting so long to end the world? why did he only choose to interact with superstitious desert nomads and the like? doesnt all of this strike you as odd?

Well, he did act just a few years ago, by making George W. Bush president.Engrish_Major

I noticed something peculiar about Christianity that I never really stopped to fully comprehend. Every supposed supernatural occurrence, every direct interaction with god, every pivotal action of god, every cosmic battle for mankind's fate.......... has either happened in the past or is going to happen in the future. This has been the state of Christianity for two millennia, if not its whole history. Isnt that just convenient, especially for the church? God never acts in the present. Everything important either has happened long ago or is going to happen in far future. Ask yourself why that is. Why would god feel no need to interact during the world-shaping events of the past few centuries? why is is waiting so long to end the world? why did he only choose to interact with superstitious desert nomads and the like? doesnt all of this strike you as odd?

arbitor365

I noticed something peculiar about Christianity that I never really stopped to fully comprehend. Every supposed supernatural occurrence, every direct interaction with god, every pivotal action of god, every cosmic battle for mankind's fate.......... has either happened in the past or is going to happen in the future. This has been the state of Christianity for two millennia, if not its whole history. Isnt that just convenient, especially for the church? God never acts in the present. Everything important either has happened long ago or is going to happen in far future. Ask yourself why that is. Why would god feel no need to interact during the world-shaping events of the past few centuries? why is is waiting so long to end the world? why did he only choose to interact with superstitious desert nomads and the like? doesnt all of this strike you as odd?

arbitor365

doesnt all of this strike you as odd?

arbitor365

Nope.

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I noticed something peculiar about Christianity that I never really stopped to fully comprehend. Every supposed supernatural occurrence, every direct interaction with god, every pivotal action of god, every cosmic battle for mankind's fate.......... has either happened in the past or is going to happen in the future. This has been the state of Christianity for two millennia, if not its whole history. Isnt that just convenient, especially for the church? God never acts in the present. Everything important either has happened long ago or is going to happen in far future. Ask yourself why that is. Why would god feel no need to interact during the world-shaping events of the past few centuries? why is is waiting so long to end the world? why did he only choose to interact with superstitious desert nomads and the like? doesnt all of this strike you as odd?

bcroger2

Since 'free will' is now getting thrown around in here..I feel obligated to point out that not all Christians ascribe to the belief of free will.FragStains

The Patriots were being owned in every way possible last night, but a few huge flukes (some the biggest in NFL history) let them beat the Packers.

That was god, and he was giving me the middle finger. :x

Almost all of my life is either past or future but I always act in the present. You say God doesn't act in the present. That's the same as saying I never act in the present.SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="FragStains"]Since 'free will' is now getting thrown around in here..I feel obligated to point out that not all Christians ascribe to the belief of free will.donwoogie

But God does act in the present, according to some believers.

I watched a special on 20/20 a few months ago about ill people experiencing miraculous healing after praying to saints. Okay, so it wasn't specifically about God, but still...

[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="FragStains"]Since 'free will' is now getting thrown around in here..I feel obligated to point out that not all Christians ascribe to the belief of free will.FragStains

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

I noticed something peculiar about Christianity that I never really stopped to fully comprehend. Every supposed supernatural occurrence, every direct interaction with god, every pivotal action of god, every cosmic battle for mankind's fate.......... has either happened in the past or is going to happen in the future. This has been the state of Christianity for two millennia, if not its whole history. Isnt that just convenient, especially for the church? God never acts in the present. Everything important either has happened long ago or is going to happen in far future. Ask yourself why that is. Why would god feel no need to interact during the world-shaping events of the past few centuries? why is is waiting so long to end the world? why did he only choose to interact with superstitious desert nomads and the like? doesnt all of this strike you as odd?

donwoogie

So, because you have not discerned anything to be specifically influenced or caused by God in the present, which you wouldn't be able to discern even if it was, Christianity must be a lie?

I suppose that makes perfect sense if you're a four-year-old child.

[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="arbitor365"]

I noticed something peculiar about Christianity that I never really stopped to fully comprehend. Every supposed supernatural occurrence, every direct interaction with god, every pivotal action of god, every cosmic battle for mankind's fate.......... has either happened in the past or is going to happen in the future. This has been the state of Christianity for two millennia, if not its whole history. Isnt that just convenient, especially for the church? God never acts in the present. Everything important either has happened long ago or is going to happen in far future. Ask yourself why that is. Why would god feel no need to interact during the world-shaping events of the past few centuries? why is is waiting so long to end the world? why did he only choose to interact with superstitious desert nomads and the like? doesnt all of this strike you as odd?

needled24-7

You know there is something I noticed today about Christianity that made me kind of squirm. Mary supposedly was a virgin when she conceived and gave birth to Jesus so it must have been one painful bloody mess of a delivery :?...

MystikFollower

You know there is something I noticed today about Christianity that made me kind of squirm. Mary supposedly was a virgin when she conceived and gave birth to Jesus so it must have been one painful bloody mess of a delivery :?...

MystikFollower

I don't believe in that. My God is bigger than your petty argument.

(I sound like a jerk, but I really don't mean to be. :P )

The Patriots were being owned in every way possible last night, but a few huge flukes (some the biggest in NFL history) let them beat the Packers.

That was god, and he was giving me the middle finger. :xcybrcatter

Ha-ha!

It's probably because whether or not God actually exists (I'm taking the agnostic stance on this one), the Bible should not be taken literally.

Why? Because if it is, God has been acting inconsistently. Back in the Old Testament, and even in the New Testament, God acted differently. He would appear, he would communicate with humans, and he would punish them and reward them accordingly in a way as to leave no doubt about his existence and power.

So either God has made some sort of ineffable decision to take a "hands off approach" the past 2000 years in human history, or that God never actually appeared as transparently or as commonly as the Bible would have us believe, and that the Bible is simply embellishing events to make its dogma more compelling.

Okay, we get it, you think you have a 160 IQ because you don't believe in God.UT_Wrestler

Maybe not 160, but maybe higher than average, who knows!!

Who is to say that God doesn't use people to get stuff done, people like Martin Luther King Jr, Pope John Paul II, Mother Teresa (spelling?), and even Gandhi?

Who is to say that God doesn't use people to get stuff done, people like Martin Luther King Jr, Pope John Paul II, Mother Teresa (spelling?), and even Gandhi?

Grodus5

and hitler

Okay, we get it, you think you have a 160 IQ because you don't believe in God.UT_Wrestler

I've seen you post stuff like this in a few different threads now. Why the hostility? The thread starter did nothing other than attempt to start a civil debate. If you don't want to participate you don't have to, but there's no need to come in and be rude with no provocation.

You need not ask us why God chooses to do or not to do things...You should just ask Him.

You need not ask us why God chooses to do or not to do things...You should just ask Him.

zmbi_gmr

He never picks up the phone.

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You need not ask us why God chooses to do or not to do things...You should just ask Him.

He never picks up the phone.

Ah the ammount of denial in this thread when his point is obvious: 1) Only a few crazy cultists have had any visions or hearings, or any direct "link" to god.... these "blessed" people making up stories in thier basement. 2) Convenient that within 2000 years there has been no interaction, and the infamous "Coming Soon" will be ongoing forever. God and the "magical" version of jesus is even less likely than Xenu..... both as made up as eachother.Birdy09

I have met a wonderful woman in my life who wasn't a crazy cultist like you stated, and she was able to receive visions from the Lord. I could try to convince you that her gift was genuine, but you wouldn't have any reason to believe me. So I will just leave it at that.

You know there is something I noticed today about Christianity that made me kind of squirm. Mary supposedly was a virgin when she conceived and gave birth to Jesus so it must have been one painful bloody mess of a delivery :?...

MystikFollower

[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]Okay, we get it, you think you have a 160 IQ because you don't believe in God.worlock77

I've seen you post stuff like this in a few different threads now. Why the hostility? The thread starter did nothing other than attempt to start a civil debate. If you don't want to participate you don't have to, but there's no need to come in and be rude with no provocation.