South and North Korea merger denied.

▲ South Korea wouldn't even need our help if they were to invade North Korea. SEOUL has better technology, stronger military force, and great stratigists(thank you starcraft). It would actually be wise for them to take this offer, after Kim dies they are going to be so weak. China will probably invade at that point. ▲

Lol, "US Assisted Invasion" :lol:

Snipes_2

▲ This is kind of funny to, like we would need asistance of any kind to invade them. lol ▲

THIS

Is all I have to say

I am not surprised but you can't blame South Korea for trying:?

Darthkaiser

But did anyone actually expect them to cooperate?

North Korea

Serious Business

^That pic just makes me feel more sorry for North Korean citizens...

North Korea

Serious Business

October_Tide

Hellz yeah

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

One Korea would be a great idea, but you have two ideologies that are in opposition.

Reunification would greatly benefit the NKorean people...their standard of living would increase.

jetpower3

Careful though. It could also be possible that a reunification too quickly can overextend governmental and economic capacities of the two countries and lead to economic collapse and instability. Assuming the most likely possibility of reunification under a Seoul government, they would have to accommodate over 20 million new people, who have been living in a world completely different than almost anywhere else on earth. As a case example, the West and East Germany reunification alone was a challenging endeavor, and even to this day, large differences remain in the former two separate countries. The differences in North and South Korea are infinitely greater and they will likely only increase even further over time. As much of an idea it may be, it may very well be too late for a smooth or even manageable reunification. And I'm sure the players on both sides are well aware of that.

Yeah, the East/West German differences are still noticable, but the difference between North and South Korea are much, much more significant. (When) they do reunify, it will probably take a few decades to get everything together.

But South Korea does a good job getting North Korean defectors transitioned into western life, so I think they can handle themselves pretty well.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

[QUOTE="WiiMan21"]

I think we should invade NK, I could see it happening.

EDIT: this has nothing to dowith your awesoem sig

Lol, does it have to do with my avatar? :P

From kim jong POV that's actually a very feasible scenario..... I mean after they were merged and what not what do you think would happen to kim jong and his buddies?

I think we should invade NK, I could see it happening.

WiiMan21

North Korea would be smart to merge with South Korea, maybe that will unite them on many issues they are split on now and help bring some peace to the country.The_Kliq

Well it's hard for them to unite on many issues when one is a communist country with a government controlled market and limited trade with a few countries, and one is a democratic capitalist country with trade with many countries, and is arguable the most technologically advanced country in the world.

There will be a lot of hardship for the citizens of the North in trying to integrate into a capitalistic market. South Korea is extremely competitive when it comes to image, education, employment etc. The North would never be able to compete in this climate in their current condition, and they would probably be treated as second-class citizens. I'm guessing several generations of North Koreans would have to pass before there is equality between a unified North and South. Having said that, it's probably still better than the current living conditions in the North. It's easy to see why the North doesn't like this new proposal, though. The South can't hope to disarm the North before going further with unification plans, especially when they're doing military drills with the United States just a while back.F1_2004

I'm still wondering if differences between the two countries will not only increase as time progresses. Even though North Korea is making no progress in almost anything and is practically rotting itself away, their leaders have no obligation to change, and it's unlikely anything short of force or the imminent threat of it being used against them is going to make them sway any which way as long as they have a powerful backer like China.

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]There will be a lot of hardship for the citizens of the North in trying to integrate into a capitalistic market. South Korea is extremely competitive when it comes to image, education, employment etc. The North would never be able to compete in this climate in their current condition, and they would probably be treated as second-class citizens. I'm guessing several generations of North Koreans would have to pass before there is equality between a unified North and South. Having said that, it's probably still better than the current living conditions in the North. It's easy to see why the North doesn't like this new proposal, though. The South can't hope to disarm the North before going further with unification plans, especially when they're doing military drills with the United States just a while back.jetpower3

I'm still wondering if differences between the two countries will not only increase as time progresses. Even though North Korea is making no progress in almost anything and is practically rotting itself away, their leaders have no obligation to change, and it's unlikely anything short of force or the imminent threat of it being used against them is going to make them sway any which way as long as they have a powerful backer like China.

Well atleast we won't have to worry that China will join North Korea and fight along this time around. China and North Korea have relations, but we are much more important to China's economy, and they need the US more than they need North Korea (if they even need North Korea for anything TBH.).

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]There will be a lot of hardship for the citizens of the North in trying to integrate into a capitalistic market. South Korea is extremely competitive when it comes to image, education, employment etc. The North would never be able to compete in this climate in their current condition, and they would probably be treated as second-class citizens. I'm guessing several generations of North Koreans would have to pass before there is equality between a unified North and South. Having said that, it's probably still better than the current living conditions in the North. It's easy to see why the North doesn't like this new proposal, though. The South can't hope to disarm the North before going further with unification plans, especially when they're doing military drills with the United States just a while back.jetpower3

I'm still wondering if differences between the two countries will not only increase as time progresses. Even though North Korea is making no progress in almost anything and is practically rotting itself away, their leaders have no obligation to change, and it's unlikely anything short of force or the imminent threat of it being used against them is going to make them sway any which way as long as they have a powerful backer like China.

[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]There will be a lot of hardship for the citizens of the North in trying to integrate into a capitalistic market. South Korea is extremely competitive when it comes to image, education, employment etc. The North would never be able to compete in this climate in their current condition, and they would probably be treated as second-class citizens. I'm guessing several generations of North Koreans would have to pass before there is equality between a unified North and South. Having said that, it's probably still better than the current living conditions in the North. It's easy to see why the North doesn't like this new proposal, though. The South can't hope to disarm the North before going further with unification plans, especially when they're doing military drills with the United States just a while back.taj7575

I'm still wondering if differences between the two countries will not only increase as time progresses. Even though North Korea is making no progress in almost anything and is practically rotting itself away, their leaders have no obligation to change, and it's unlikely anything short of force or the imminent threat of it being used against them is going to make them sway any which way as long as they have a powerful backer like China.

Well atleast we won't have to worry that China will join North Korea and fight along this time around. China and North Korea have relations, but we are much more important to China's economy, and they need the US more than they need North Korea (if they even need North Korea for anything TBH.).

I think if China were to ever remove their backing, North Korea would have absolutely nothing to lean on, and would have almost no choice but to engage seriously in reunification. That said, and like I said earlier, I still cannot foresee any real manageable reunification. Unless we want an economic disaster akin to the collapse of Eastern Europe in the 90s. There is simply no precedent of what to do in this situation.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

I'm still wondering if differences between the two countries will not only increase as time progresses. Even though North Korea is making no progress in almost anything and is practically rotting itself away, their leaders have no obligation to change, and it's unlikely anything short of force or the imminent threat of it being used against them is going to make them sway any which way as long as they have a powerful backer like China.

jetpower3

Well atleast we won't have to worry that China will join North Korea and fight along this time around. China and North Korea have relations, but we are much more important to China's economy, and they need the US more than they need North Korea (if they even need North Korea for anything TBH.).

I think if China were to ever remove their backing, North Korea would have absolutely nothing to lean on, and would have almost no choice but to engage seriously in reunification. That said, and like I said earlier, I still cannot foresee any real manageable reunification. Unless we want an economic disaster akin to the collapse of Eastern Europe in the 90s. There is simply no precedent of what to do in this situation.

I think reunification is possible, as long as South Korea can manage to basically teach the North Koreans how to adapt to the modern world (Watch this video, they think the great leaders of the world are Stalin, Mao, and other communist dictators. It also shows in the part 2 of that vid, that they teach defectors how to adapt to the modern world).

I think it's possible, but there will be some problems, and it may take a few decades to fully adapt.

Well atleast we won't have to worry that China will join North Korea and fight along this time around. China and North Korea have relations, but we are much more important to China's economy, and they need the US more than they need North Korea (if they even need North Korea for anything TBH.).

taj7575

North Korea is a wall that blocks American military and influence from bordering China.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

Well atleast we won't have to worry that China will join North Korea and fight along this time around. China and North Korea have relations, but we are much more important to China's economy, and they need the US more than they need North Korea (if they even need North Korea for anything TBH.).

Espada12

North Korea is a wall that blocks American military and influence from bordering China.

This much is true. Both sides are well aware of the dangers of tipping the balance of power in the region. It can risk, like I said earlier, economic collapse, political instability, and even insurrection and war. That's why to them the status quo, at least for right now, is preferable.

Quite literally every single person in North Korea except Kim Jong-Il and his buddies would benefit from the unification of South and North Korea... sadly, Kim Jong-Il and his buddies are the only ones with any say.

GabuEx

I wonder will the day ever come when we see the nation of Korea. jeremiah06

If there was ever a time it could have effectively happened, it was in the winter of 1950 during the Korean War, had the U.N. offensive had not been halted and turned back by the Chinese intervening.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

Well atleast we won't have to worry that China will join North Korea and fight along this time around. China and North Korea have relations, but we are much more important to China's economy, and they need the US more than they need North Korea (if they even need North Korea for anything TBH.).

jetpower3

North Korea is a wall that blocks American military and influence from bordering China.

This much is true. Both sides are well aware of the dangers of tipping the balance of power in the region. It can risk, like I said earlier, economic collapse, political instability, and even insurrection and war. That's why to them the status quo, at least for right now, is preferable.

Yes, but the main reason the US Military is there is because of North Korea. If the Korean Peninsula is reunified, we can certainly move after a few years.

And besides, this will still mainly be South Korea's war to fight, along with US backing.

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"]I wonder will the day ever come when we see the nation of Korea. jetpower3

If there was ever a time it could have effectively happened, it was in the winter of 1950 during the Korean War, had the U.N. offensive had not been halted and turned back by the Chinese intervening.

We would just have one country in the Korean peninsula right now, if MacArthur wasn't so ignorant on his views that there was no way China would also attack.