South Carolina to change the drinking age to 18?

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#101 ImaPirate0202
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Drinking laws make no sense to me. Teenagers are gonna drink alchohol regardless of the age limits.

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#102 ALTAIR360
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here in the netherlands is 16 :|

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#103 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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I'm sorry but any state but them, they already can't drive... Jk folks juuust kiidding.

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Think you mean New Jersey :P
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#104 Hot-Tamale
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It's a good idea, but it won't pass. SC is very conservative.

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#105 mr__gameboy
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south carolina and jersey. the two states im most affliialted with. i feel horrible now :cry:

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#106 Mercenary848
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[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

I'm sorry but any state but them, they already can't drive... Jk folks juuust kiidding.

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Think you mean New Jersey :P

Judging from the Sopranos people hit you with cars on purpose there. People from SC do not practice courtesy driving. :P

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#107 jjwalker9600
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If you can die for your country at 18 and you are old enough to vote, then you should be able to drink.

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#108 Cherokee_Jack
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It's a good idea, but it won't pass. SC is very conservative.

Hot-Tamale
And conservatives are against lowering drinking ages? I'd think the opposite.
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#109 cowboymonkey21
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Who lives in South Carolina?:? Who cares?

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#110 vaultboy_ninja
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The drinking age has always been 18 here in australia.

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#111 DigitalExile
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The drinking age has always been 18 here in australia.

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Yeah, and that doesn't makle the 21 year olds, or the 31 year olds, or the 61 year olds, drink any more responsibly.

It's always going to come down to the individual.

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#112 mr__gameboy
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Who lives in South Carolina?:? Who cares?

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why the hate? it would be a good thing to start us out of this bible belt curse we are in. i just would like to be able to buy it on sunday. that and shop at walmart for something besides food. darn bluelight laws!
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#113 weezyfb
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18 your an adult anyway

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#114 Bioshockraptor
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Well it's 18 here ... but that won't stop anyone.
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#115 Danm_999
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I've never really understood the imposition of three extra years in the United States before you can drink compared to the rest of the West. Alcohol consumption is not really more harmful at 18 than it is at 21. A three year delay may do your liver good if you're an unhealthy drinker, but then why start at 21? Why not 25? Why not 30? Maturity isn't really the issue either; 18 year old Americans are considered mature enough to vote, smoke, enlist in their military and drive. Access and desire to consume alcohol also rapidly increases at 18. Colleges are notorious hotspots for underage drinking, so it seems impractical too.
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#116 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]Great idea, though 18 for a beer is still too high in my opinion. I think the drinking age of 21 is preposterous.MoonMarvel
What is the right age to you?

I'm sorry for the late response, I was out. Where I can live you can purchase beer and wine at age 16, and stronger (20% +) alcohol at age 18. Which I think works fine. Then again, I'm in Europe and alcohol is not such a big deal as it is in the USA.
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I've never really understood the imposition of three extra years in the United States before you can drink compared to the rest of the West. Alcohol consumption is not really more harmful at 18 than it is at 21. A three year delay may do your liver good if you're an unhealthy drinker, but then why start at 21? Why not 25? Why not 30? Maturity isn't really the issue either; 18 year old Americans are considered mature enough to vote, smoke, enlist in their military and drive. Access and desire to consume alcohol also rapidly increases at 18. Colleges are notorious hotspots for underage drinking, so it seems impractical too.Danm_999

I think the main argument is against drunken driving, but even then there's a statistical spike in the 21-25 age group that doesn't really start to drop until after your mid twenties. I don't think the answer is age restriction, I think it's to get rid of the taboo surrounding it. If you tell people they can't drink and absolutely forbid it, as soon as they get their hands on it they're more likely to go crazy. I like the 18 age, and there's another law I like in Wisconsin that minors can be served as long as they're with an of age adult. I know there's potential for abuse there, but I do think people would drink a little more responsibly if they're allowed to have a serving of alcohol with dinner from a younger age, maybe 15 or 16.

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#118 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]I've never really understood the imposition of three extra years in the United States before you can drink compared to the rest of the West. Alcohol consumption is not really more harmful at 18 than it is at 21. A three year delay may do your liver good if you're an unhealthy drinker, but then why start at 21? Why not 25? Why not 30? Maturity isn't really the issue either; 18 year old Americans are considered mature enough to vote, smoke, enlist in their military and drive. Access and desire to consume alcohol also rapidly increases at 18. Colleges are notorious hotspots for underage drinking, so it seems impractical too.theone86

I think the main argument is against drunken driving, but even then there's a statistical spike in the 21-25 age group that doesn't really start to drop until after your mid twenties. I don't think the answer is age restriction, I think it's to get rid of the taboo surrounding it. If you tell people they can't drink and absolutely forbid it, as soon as they get their hands on it they're more likely to go crazy. I like the 18 age, and there's another law I like in Wisconsin that minors can be served as long as they're with an of age adult. I know there's potential for abuse there, but I do think people would drink a little more responsibly if they're allowed to have a serving of alcohol with dinner from a younger age, maybe 15 or 16.

I believe drink driving is a reason to maintain the extension, but it can't have been the reason to initially impose it. It's far too illogical.
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#119 dan-rofl-copter
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Its 18 here in the UK.

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#120 Cactus_Matt
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It's 18 in Australia and has been for as long as I can remember. The legal drinking age doesn't matter, because most people drink WAY before and drink WAY too much, and those people drink so because of uncaring/neglectful parents or because of peer pressure.

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#121 tofu-lion91
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It works fine over in the UK so why not in America? I couldn't imagine the drinking age being 21, I was already annoyed at them raising the smoking age to 18 just after I turned 16 :| Oh yeh, I've been old enough to get married and have children for a little under 2 years now but I can't buy alcohol or cigarettes for another 3 days - woot :roll:
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#122 Travo_basic
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It works fine over in the UK so why not in America? I couldn't imagine the drinking age being 21, I was already annoyed at them raising the smoking age to 18 just after I turned 16 :| Oh yeh, I've been old enough to get married and have children for a little under 2 years now but I can't buy alcohol or cigarettes for another 3 days - woot :roll:tofu-lion91
C'mon. Three days isn't that long. :P
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#123 tofu-lion91
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[QUOTE="Travo_basic"] C'mon. Three days isn't that long. :P

Actually I've just looked at my computer calendar and it's 2 now - I turn 18 on 5th August :D I know it isn't long now but I do think it's a bit ridiculous that I'm deemed responsible enough to have children but not smoke or drink :?
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#124 CBR600-RR
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They should, you can drink at any age in the UK as long as your under your own roof with permission from your parents. The legal age is 18 to go and drink at pubs etc.

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[QUOTE="Travo_basic"] C'mon. Three days isn't that long. :Ptofu-lion91
Actually I've just looked at my computer calendar and it's 2 now - I turn 18 on 5th August :D I know it isn't long now but I do think it's a bit ridiculous that I'm deemed responsible enough to have children but not smoke or drink :?

Damnit, it's the 15th for me. :P

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#126 shinian
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Always found it strange that you could die for your country, but are not able to legally have a beer.

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This post speaks the truth.

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#127 cousin_eddy
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IMO it is a terrible idea but I am also speaking as a straight edge individual.
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#128 clyde46
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[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"][QUOTE="Travo_basic"] C'mon. Three days isn't that long. :PCBR600-RR

Actually I've just looked at my computer calendar and it's 2 now - I turn 18 on 5th August :D I know it isn't long now but I do think it's a bit ridiculous that I'm deemed responsible enough to have children but not smoke or drink :?

Damnit, it's the 15th for me. :P

Such younglings :P I'm 19 this year.
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#129 tofu-lion91
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[QUOTE="clyde46"] Such younglings :P I'm 19 this year.

Hero's 20 so ner :P CBR *hi5*
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#130 Grodus5
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I live in South Carolina! Yay! Oh... wait... I don't like alcohol...

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#131 clyde46
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[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Such younglings :P I'm 19 this year.

Hero's 20 so ner :P CBR *hi5*

Touch my dear :P
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#132 I_am_3rror
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Sounds like something that is long overdue.
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#133 CBR600-RR
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[QUOTE="clyde46"] Such younglings :P I'm 19 this year.tofu-lion91
Hero's 20 so ner :P CBR *hi5*

*hi5* :P

Two of my mates are 19 a month after me. :x

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[QUOTE="clyde46"] Touch my dear :P

Touch your dear? Ooh saucy :oops:
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#135 clyde46
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[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Touch my dear :P

Touch your dear? Ooh saucy :oops:

Damit :x missed the e :P
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#136 brickdoctor
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I don't see the problem with that. If you can smoke at 18 you should be able to drink. BTW, does communion count because I knkow some kids that are like 8 years below the age drinking in church!

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#137 awesomeray
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thats a great idea
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#138 kemar7856
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[QUOTE="harashawn"] If it works in Alberta, Manitoba and Quebec, I don't see why it wouldn't work there.

whoa whoa whoa is the true lol I live in ontario and never knew that
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[QUOTE="Droymac"][QUOTE="Fandangle"]

Always found it strange that you could die for your country, but are not able to legally have a beer.

CruxisXIII

Funny you mention that. Back in the day, you had to be 21 in order to vote, and people argued how ridiculous it was that you could die for your country yet not have the right to vote until a later age. So they dropped the voting age down to 18. lol Silly America.

Well, to be honest if you can get drafted at 18 you should have a say as to who will be your representatives.

That was the point.

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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]I've never really understood the imposition of three extra years in the United States before you can drink compared to the rest of the West. Alcohol consumption is not really more harmful at 18 than it is at 21. A three year delay may do your liver good if you're an unhealthy drinker, but then why start at 21? Why not 25? Why not 30? Maturity isn't really the issue either; 18 year old Americans are considered mature enough to vote, smoke, enlist in their military and drive. Access and desire to consume alcohol also rapidly increases at 18. Colleges are notorious hotspots for underage drinking, so it seems impractical too.Danm_999

I think the main argument is against drunken driving, but even then there's a statistical spike in the 21-25 age group that doesn't really start to drop until after your mid twenties. I don't think the answer is age restriction, I think it's to get rid of the taboo surrounding it. If you tell people they can't drink and absolutely forbid it, as soon as they get their hands on it they're more likely to go crazy. I like the 18 age, and there's another law I like in Wisconsin that minors can be served as long as they're with an of age adult. I know there's potential for abuse there, but I do think people would drink a little more responsibly if they're allowed to have a serving of alcohol with dinner from a younger age, maybe 15 or 16.

I believe drink driving is a reason to maintain the extension, but it can't have been the reason to initially impose it. It's far too illogical.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it was. Drinking age used to be 18 a generation ago and I think it was in the late 70's/early 80's when they extended it citing drunk driving as a major factor. Like I said, though, it's a pretty flimsy excuse seeing as how drunk driving in the 21-25 age group is higher than in the 16-18 group, and how it really doesn't start to come down until age groups where people traditionally mellow out. Anywyas, while drunk driving may have been the reason give, I do think the real driving reason was and always has been social control. It's just that if you come out and say, "we're going to extend the age limit to 21 because we don't like the behavior of the generation that comes after us," you'll probably get less support, but if you cover it with a pretense of reducing drunk driving accidents then more people will go for it.

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#141 theone86
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I don't see the problem with that. If you can smoke at 18 you should be able to drink. BTW, does communion count because I knkow some kids that are like 8 years below the age drinking in church!

brickdoctor

Communion wine has minimal amounts of alcohol, but I would have misgivings about having someone younger than maybe 12 drinking regardless. They're not going to get drunk, but there is still alcohol and I don't think that's a good thing for developing children, to be drinking on a weekly basis.