Sphephen Fry debate against catholicism

[QUOTE="Deihjan"]He is completely right. Why would anyone say condoms spread aids?whipassmt

To acknowledge the faults of what you believe is to be enlightened.

Nothing that's worth believing in this world is beyond fault.

I don't believe in Christianity, but I was raised Catholic and that is what I'd go back to if I was to go back.

Catholicism is, in my opinion, the most basic form of Christianity. A lot of people don't agree with it and that is why they have developed new forms.

Christianity, on the whole, is a giant hoax so it's pointless in my eyes to criticize one form of Christianity without criticizing the whole religion, or any religion for that matter.

I'll watch it when I get back from the gym.

But, I just want everyone to know I would bat for the other team if that other team was Stephen Fry.

Is there something like this on Islam as well? Preferably with Stephen Fry?

Is there something like this on Islam as well? Preferably with Stephen Fry?

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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Is there something like this on Islam as well? Preferably with Stephen Fry?Richymisiak

[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="Deihjan"]He is completely right. Why would anyone say condoms spread aids?AirGuitarist87

"I would say the opposite. I think that the most efficient, most truly present player in the fight against Aids is the Catholic Church herself, with her movements and her various organizations. I think of the Sant'Egidio community that does so much, visibly and also behind the scenes, in the struggle against Aids, I think of the Camillians, and so much more besides, I think of all the Sisters who take care of the sick. I would say that this problem of Aids cannot be overcome merely with money, necessary though it is. If there is no human dimension, if Africans do not help [by responsible behaviour], the problem cannot be overcome by the distribution of prophylactics: on the contrary, they increase it. The solution must have two elements: firstly, bringing out the human dimension of sexuality, that is to say a spiritual and human renewal that would bring with it a new way of behaving towards others, and secondly, true friendship offered above all to those who are suffering, a willingness to make sacrifices and to practise self-denial, to be alongside the suffering. And so these are the factors that help and that lead to real progress: our twofold effort to renew humanity inwardly, to give spiritual and human strength for proper conduct towards our bodies and those of others, and this capacity to suffer with those who are suffering, to remain present in situations of trial. It seems to me that this is the proper response, and the Church does this, thereby offering an enormous and important contribution. We thank all who do so."

The media seems to have selectedly quoted him, as usual for the "soundbyte media".

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] Who, exactly said that?

whipassmt

"I would say the opposite. I think that the most efficient, most truly present player in the fight against Aids is the Catholic Church herself, with her movements and her various organizations. I think of the Sant'Egidio community that does so much, visibly and also behind the scenes, in the struggle against Aids, I think of the Camillians, and so much more besides, I think of all the Sisters who take care of the sick. I would say that this problem of Aids cannot be overcome merely with money, necessary though it is. If there is no human dimension, if Africans do not help [by responsible behaviour], the problem cannot be overcome by the distribution of prophylactics: on the contrary, they increase it. The solution must have two elements: firstly, bringing out the human dimension of sexuality, that is to say a spiritual and human renewal that would bring with it a new way of behaving towards others, and secondly, true friendship offered above all to those who are suffering, a willingness to make sacrifices and to practise self-denial, to be alongside the suffering. And so these are the factors that help and that lead to real progress: our twofold effort to renew humanity inwardly, to give spiritual and human strength for proper conduct towards our bodies and those of others, and this capacity to suffer with those who are suffering, to remain present in situations of trial. It seems to me that this is the proper response, and the Church does this, thereby offering an enormous and important contribution. We thank all who do so."

The media seems to have selectedly quoted him, as usual for the "soundbyte media".

"You cant resolve it with the distribution of condoms...

On the contrary it increases the problem."

[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"] The Pope.Teenaged

"I would say the opposite. I think that the most efficient, most truly present player in the fight against Aids is the Catholic Church herself, with her movements and her various organizations. I think of the Sant'Egidio community that does so much, visibly and also behind the scenes, in the struggle against Aids, I think of the Camillians, and so much more besides, I think of all the Sisters who take care of the sick. I would say that this problem of Aids cannot be overcome merely with money, necessary though it is. If there is no human dimension, if Africans do not help [by responsible behaviour], the problem cannot be overcome by the distribution of prophylactics: on the contrary, they increase it. The solution must have two elements: firstly, bringing out the human dimension of sexuality, that is to say a spiritual and human renewal that would bring with it a new way of behaving towards others, and secondly, true friendship offered above all to those who are suffering, a willingness to make sacrifices and to practise self-denial, to be alongside the suffering. And so these are the factors that help and that lead to real progress: our twofold effort to renew humanity inwardly, to give spiritual and human strength for proper conduct towards our bodies and those of others, and this capacity to suffer with those who are suffering, to remain present in situations of trial. It seems to me that this is the proper response, and the Church does this, thereby offering an enormous and important contribution. We thank all who do so."

The media seems to have selectedly quoted him, as usual for the "soundbyte media".

"You cant resolve it with the distribution of condoms...

On the contrary it increases the problem."