Spiderman 3 wasn't that bad :Spiderman Reboot :?

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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]Care to provide a link confirming that he intended to be cheesy and that he wanted this part in the film?Dylan_11

It's just who Sam Raimi is. I've seen several of his movies and read a book by Bruce Campbell which talked a lot about him. You can see elements of it in all the Spider-Man movies, like in the second when when Doctor Octopus is under surgery and his mechanical arms go whack-o.

Alright, well I'm making an extremely well educated guess since I'm a fan of the director.. You don't have any proof that he did it in complete seriousness, I assume.

Alright, well I'm making an extremely well educated guess since I'm a fan of the director.. You don't have any proof that he did it in complete seriousness, I assume.

Afrojitsu

As for your second part, seeing as how I never said he did that scene in complete seriousness I don't see why I need to provide proof? Remember I simply spoke of my opinion on the scene, whereas you attempted to give us the thoughts of the director.

[QUOTE="Afrojitsu"]

Alright, well I'm making an extremely well educated guess since I'm a fan of the director.. You don't have any proof that he did it in complete seriousness, I assume.

Dylan_11

As for your second part, seeing as how I never said he did that scene in complete seriousness I don't see why I need to provide proof? Remember I simply spoke of my opinion on the scene, whereas you attempted to give us the thoughts of the director.

Well sorry, I suppose if I went back and put "I think" in front of all my sentences, this matter could be laid to rest ;)

Even though I amright :evil:

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[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]

I am looking forward to this reboot. Tobey Maguire was good, but I think Andrew Garfield is a much better actor who could give the Peter Parker character more depth. I also like the new director. It may be a bit soon for a reboot, but I think this has potential.

sammyjenkis898

yes but thats because it was only a small part of the film. They want the whole movie to take place in HS, from what I heard.

blazinpuertoroc

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yes but thats because it was only a small part of the film. They want the whole movie to take place in HS, from what I heard.

TheShadowLord07

I would rather see a Spiderman 4 with Shocker and maybe another villan.

[QUOTE="Afrojitsu"]

[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]Care to provide a link confirming that he intended to be cheesy and that he wanted this part in the film?Dylan_11

It's just who Sam Raimi is. I've seen several of his movies and read a book by Bruce Campbell which talked a lot about him. You can see elements of it in all the Spider-Man movies, like in the second when when Doctor Octopus is under surgery and his mechanical arms go whack-o.

Exactly.

I don't care if that's what he likes doing, he still has to make it fit the material.

Saying "that's what he does" isn't an excuse. If you hire a demolition expert to work in a museum, and then he smashes all of the priceless vases, it doesn't suffice to simply say "lol...that's just what he does."

And Sam Raimi knows this. He's done movies in various genres. He doesn't always do the same stuff. Certain aspects can be carried over in certain situations (such as the awakening of Doc Oc having a sort of cheesy horror movie vibe) but he still knows that he has to adapt what he does to fit the material. The Evil Dead overall felt nothing like A Simple Plan, and A Simple Plan overall felt nothing like Spider-Man.

I would rather see a Spiderman 4 with Shocker and maybe another villan.

Dawq902

I must disagree. Spider-man 3 doesn't even come near how awesome the first was. I was severely disappointed with the third.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]Hollywood is going to do "gritty reboots" for all their major superhero franchises; first Superman and Superman to follow. The reason can be traced back to 2008. The Dark Knight was too attractive a model for success; one of the highest grossing films of all time coupled with almost universally positive critical acclaim. Banjo_Kongfooie

Yeah it wasn't bad to see Toby Maguire dance on a table and cry....

............. Ok Hollywood should wait at least 5 years or more before they actually do a reboot.. I mean seriously are they running out of ideas? Spiderman 3 was released during freaking 2007.. And they want to start it over again.. Why so we can see Peter Parker gain his powers AGAIN, and fight the same bad guys AGAIN.. I would much rather see something like a REAL Blade sequel then such a freaking early reboot of a series.. sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]............. Ok Hollywood should wait at least 5 years or more before they actually do a reboot.. I mean seriously are they running out of ideas? Spiderman 3 was released during freaking 2007.. And they want to start it over again.. Why so we can see Peter Parker gain his powers AGAIN, and fight the same bad guys AGAIN.. I would much rather see something like a REAL Blade sequel then such a freaking early reboot of a series.. TheShadowLord07

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]............. Ok Hollywood should wait at least 5 years or more before they actually do a reboot.. I mean seriously are they running out of ideas? Spiderman 3 was released during freaking 2007.. And they want to start it over again.. Why so we can see Peter Parker gain his powers AGAIN, and fight the same bad guys AGAIN.. I would much rather see something like a REAL Blade sequel then such a freaking early reboot of a series.. Danm_999

This thread is still going. We get it, that movie sucked.:P

A reboot for just one flop and for a trilogy that was released not to long ago? :?nintendoboy16

could be worst. superman is supposedly getting its 2nd reboot

This thread is still going. We get it, that movie sucked.:P

mitu123

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This thread is still going. We get it, that movie sucked.:P

Banjo_Kongfooie

That post was a joke.:P

It's not about Spider-Man 3 being bad, it's about Sam Raimi thinking that there was no way the fourth film would be good with the way Sony wanted them to churn it out.

I actually quite liked it, the Sandman was excellent. But I hated seeing Tony screw up his life.

Spider-Man 3 was a mess of a movie but it was sort of expected. The hype was HUGE for the movie and despite it being "passable" in a way or another, it just wasn't that good because of the hype and the amazing Spider-Man 2. The movie was rushed, 3 villians? For a nearly 3 hours movie? It didn't work. What they needed to do is work with ONE villian (Sandman) and keep the Harry business GROW during the movie and he becomes "New Goblin" towards the end.

The problem was that, the symbiote and Venom was TOTALLY UNEEDED in this movie. The symbiote TERM wasn't even used (probably ONCE) in the movie. Topher, despite me liking the actor a LOT because of That 70's Show, was totally not used to his potential! They should've really not wasted Topher completely in this movie. Just soo many bad decisions in all honesty but I know very well that with that much pressure from the execs and the fans, Raimi really didn't have much freedom with this movie unlike the first 2. Still a very DISAPPOINTING movie. It was bad but mostly due to hype and very bad writing & directing. It's watchable but still... You'd expect MORE from such a big release.

Now onto the reboot scenario... There is a big reason as to why that happend. You may know how DISNEY bought MARVEL entertainement for 4 billion dollars and how they retain the rights to anything Marvel. Sony signed a 6 movie contract deal with Marvel back when they were starting the Spider-Man franchise and now that DISNEY owns MARVEL, after the 6th movie by Sony, DISNEY can do whatever they want with the IP. So there you go, Sony knows the 3rd movie brought in quite the hate with the series. Raimi was getting even MORE pressured and then he just snapped because he couldn't work with the execs at Sony for the 4th movie. So instead of getting a new director, they decided to restart.

Now there is a lot of flaws in that logic and I seriously agree that they should've waited about another 5 years before actually releasing that movie but I think there is some sort of closed deal within Marvel, Sony & Disney which could probably mention how Sony retaining the IP for the next 3 Spider-Man movies have an expiration date on it. It probably happend due to legal issues and all concerning the merger Marvel had. It's all speculation here but that's probably one of the "logical" reasons as to why Sony would be releasing their reboot so early. I mean they could probably be after the new audience but the 3rd movie came out barely 3 years ago.

Now also, Tobey is getting old. He's what in his late 20's? early 30's? Similar to the new Bond's they have after every 3 - 5 Bond movies, Spider-Man is a young dude from high school - university. Despite many of his fans seeing him go through his whole life, fight Morlun and all of that, the audience is huge! The biggest audience the movie will have, are young kid and teens. They want to see a young actor and a cool story, that's what Spider-Man is, a funny super hero who doesn't know when to shut up!

One thing Raimi did EXCELLENTLY was building up who PETER PARKER IS. However, despite the story being about Peter Parker, it's about SPIDER-MAN. He got the man behind the mask very well but he never built up the funny super hero he really is which is something that always bothered me in Spidey movies.

Anyways so I'm guessing they want the younger audience with new actors, new story and new ... everything! I find it a very dumb idea to release the reboot in 2012 but alas, hopefully they will do it well. It's kinda hard to see a Spidey movie without Tobey but oh well, that's what I said about Pierce Brosnan and I love Daniel Craig even more! :P

Oh and on topic, Spider-Man 3 was pretty bad.:P But I guess they ended the trilogy without being even more messy.

Spider man 3 was bad, really bad. The only part I actually enjoyed was when Parker accidentally back-handed Mary Jane, and that was only because someone in the theater yelled "Yeah! Slap that ****!"

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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]

What is this? I don't even....

twitchmonkey399

It was a good movie it just didn't have the best ending

I agree; the dancing part was enjoyable. It brought a comedic flare to the movie that succeeded in making me laugh. I mean this in a good way, in case that wasn't clear.

exactly people take spider man to seriously it was put in for comedic effect and people flip out over it

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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]
Actually I found that to be an enjoyable part and the fight between Sandman and spiderman was great but the last fight felt like a Cluster... Venom felt rushed but Topher did a much better job than I thought he would as Venom (still should have been carnage).

It was a good movie it just didn't have the best ending

spliffstar12

I agree; the dancing part was enjoyable. It brought a comedic flare to the movie that succeeded in making me laugh. I mean this in a good way, in case that wasn't clear.

exactly people take spider man to seriously it was put in for comedic effect and people flip out over it

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