Stephen Hawking: "I never said that god doesn't exist"

I thought he totally did, everyone said he totally did. He totally did

I thought he totally did, everyone said he totally did. He totally did

breakinglaws

Did you actually read the article? :P He basically says that God is the name people give to the reason why we exist, i.e., physics.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Did you actually read the article? :P He basically says that God is the name people give to the reason why we exist, i.e., physics.

breakinglaws

What?

no it's not, its science. Chances are if god exists(and yes I believe in him) he'd be more of a scientific concept then a magical one like we love picturing him as.

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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Did you actually read the article? :P He basically says that God is the name people give to the reason why we exist, i.e., physics.

dragonfly110

What?

no it's not, its science. Chances are if god exists(and yes I believe in him) he'd be more of a scientific concept then a magical one like we love picturing him as.

Oh I didn't mean the idea, I meant Hawkings. BOOYAH!

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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Did you actually read the article? :P He basically says that God is the name people give to the reason why we exist, i.e., physics.

dragonfly110

What?

no it's not, its science. Chances are if god exists(and yes I believe in him) he'd be more of a scientific concept then a magical one like we love picturing him as.

According to the laws of thermodynamics, we at least know that he can outside operate outside the overall laws of science.

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God = Physics? *does not compute*flipin_jackass

Well I can see what he's saying, really. Effectively, his message is that humans created this concept of "God" to explain their existence, and that, as such, "God" is really the name that people give to that which is responsible for their existence.

Hawking indeed never said that God didn't exist, he simply said that the field of physics is now so advanced that we don't need God anymore to justify our existence. He didn't say that there's none, he rather just said that there could be none. People have a hard time understanding some very simple things sometimes :P

[QUOTE="flipin_jackass"]God = Physics? *does not compute*GabuEx

Well I can see what he's saying, really. Effectively, his message is that humans created this concept of "God" to explain their existence, and that, as such, "God" is really the name that people give to that which is responsible for their existence.

[QUOTE="flipin_jackass"]God = Physics? *does not compute*GabuEx

Well I can see what he's saying, really. Effectively, his message is that humans created this concept of "God" to explain their existence, and that, as such, "God" is really the name that people give to that which is responsible for their existence.

Order suggests design in my opinion. Therefore, I believe in a God. But to each his own I guess.

Hawking is an agnostic. This isn't news. Why is it always taken as news?

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KH-mixerX

All this red text is making me really wish I knew what had been deleted

That article consists of Stephen Hawking arguing semantics and sticking to his previous statements. Hawking isn't going to prove his beliefs anytime soon, so I don't know why he bothers making such statements.

[QUOTE="flipin_jackass"]God = Physics? *does not compute*GabuEx

Well I can see what he's saying, really. Effectively, his message is that humans created this concept of "God" to explain their existence, and that, as such, "God" is really the name that people give to that which is responsible for their existence.

Hawking is an agnostic. This isn't news. Why is it always taken as news?PannicAtack

Wasn't the controversial (for reasons I cannot fathom) previous quote more of a "God doesn't need to exist" than a "God doesn't exist?"PannicAtack

More or less, yes.

Hawking is an agnostic. This isn't news. Why is it always taken as news?

PannicAtack

This, I've seen him say it many times over that you can't prove or disprove God :P

With technology and science there will always be something we dont understand. If someone 100 years ago saw an iPhone, they would think it was magic or something. 100 years from now, who knows what we will know? Maybe eventually we'll find all the answers :)

very few scientists will try to say god doesnt exist. They just know he probably doesnt.

For instance, im god. There i just said it. You cant prove me wrong with science... there is no scientific way to prove im not god. But the probability of god posting on a gamespot forum? probably pretty low, pretty damn low.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Hawking is an agnostic. This isn't news. Why is it always taken as news?xTawshx

I'm sure hes said someting like this before, I don't know why people are suprised. He didn't say that he believes in god, he said that god is peoples explanation for existance, which is no different from physics.

I'd say he's got it about half right. At least, until physics explains how the human brain works. God is a term attributed to psychological processes in the human mind that give an experience of the blending of the subjective self and objective other (or at least, the "self" we believe exists inherently). An equanimity that most people can't put into words, and thus attribute it to a "divine" being. While others, who haven't actually experienced that equanimity, think God is a literally extant being and function in the religious environment off the experiences of others around them.

Steven Hawking is God.

What's strange is that America is the only western nation where large amounts of people still believe in God....it's pretty damn hilarious actually. How could things go so wrong?Osaka-06

I blame witchcraft.

What is insane is people actually thinking he is insane and taking his comments WAY out of context. Human-after-all

agreed. this board gives me a headache sometimes

[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]What is insane is people actually thinking he is insane and taking his comments WAY out of context. gamedude2020

agreed. this board gives me a headache sometimes

It really does help when people actually read the articles.

you have to feel sorry for old Hawkings, he survived years longer than he should have and has broadened so many peoples minds, and yet he can barely state a simple view of god without people twisting his words completely.

So, if God is physics, then Hawkings is... The Pope?

So, if God is physics, then Hawkings is... The Pope?

vadicta

Jesus.

Hmm.. I can really see his views towards it. I'd love to show this article to my friends who are really athiest and tend to use him as an example every time..

He technically hasn't "said" anything in like 30 years.

Badum tish. I'm terrible.

Hmm.. I can really see his views towards it. I'd love to show this article to my friends who are really athiest and tend to use him as an example every time..

Kurezan

It's pretty clear he does not actively believe in a God. I really think he's just trying to pacify religious folks or takes a much different approach to it than your average religion.

I don't think Stephen Hawking is a Christian or Muslim.

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[QUOTE="flipin_jackass"]God = Physics? *does not compute*KH-mixerX

Well I can see what he's saying, really. Effectively, his message is that humans created this concept of "God" to explain their existence, and that, as such, "God" is really the name that people give to that which is responsible for their existence.

Order suggests design in my opinion. Therefore, I believe in a God. But to each his own I guess.

Define order.. Because the order of the universe is nothing like how we would see order.. The universe is actually extremely chaotic.

[QUOTE="Kurezan"]

Hmm.. I can really see his views towards it. I'd love to show this article to my friends who are really athiest and tend to use him as an example every time..

Pixel-Pirate

It's pretty clear he does not actively believe in a God. I really think he's just trying to pacify religious folks or takes a much different approach to it than your average religion.

I don't think Stephen Hawking is a Christian or Muslim.

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[QUOTE="Kurezan"]

Hmm.. I can really see his views towards it. I'd love to show this article to my friends who are really athiest and tend to use him as an example every time..

Kurezan

It's pretty clear he does not actively believe in a God. I really think he's just trying to pacify religious folks or takes a much different approach to it than your average religion.

I don't think Stephen Hawking is a Christian or Muslim.

But then weren't you going to show the article to your friends to.... nevermind

this is so ending well :P