Straightedge kids, scene kids, "metal" kids... (basically all the same

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#1 cementface9
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What do you think of them?

I personally can't stand them. Whether it's the preachy straightedge kids, the unintelligent scene kids, or the obnoxious metal kids, they all appear to be the same thing to me: social waste.

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#2 nimatoad2000
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what did metal kids do to you? because they walk around with slayer shirts, jackets with patches on them, and they put up horns every minute.. metal kids dont try to be cool or "hip" metal isnt the new thing in pop culture... its been around since the 70's...
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#4 Sajo7
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Thats...great?
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#5 lonewolf604
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actually, i'm friends with a few, and they are some of the nicest people actually. the only thing i don't like about them is that they REEK of cigarettes
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#6 ghoklebutter
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What do you think of them?

I personally can't stand them. Whether it's the preachy straightedge kids, the unintelligent scene kids, or the obnoxious metal kids, they all appear to be the same thing to me: social waste.

cementface9

"Gangsta" kids are far worse.

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#7 nimatoad2000
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maybee i dont know what a metal kid is, please explain to me what they do and why its annoying.. ( i'm not a metal kid btw.. im just curious here )
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#8 Tuky06
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What's wrong with metal kids?

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#9 omfg_its_dally
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They all have equal cons.
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#10 cementface9
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what did metal kids do to you? because they walk around with slayer shirts, jackets with patches on them, and they put up horns every minute.. metal kids dont try to be cool or "hip" metal isnt the new thing in pop culture... its been around since the 70's... nimatoad2000

Where have you been? Metal is the hippest of the hip these days.

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#11 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="cementface9"]

What do you think of them?

I personally can't stand them. Whether it's the preachy straightedge kids, the unintelligent scene kids, or the obnoxious metal kids, they all appear to be the same thing to me: social waste.

ghoklebutter

"Gangsta" kids are far worse.

Heck yes there are! Scene kids, metal heads and straight people don't bother me one bit I actually met some very chill people who fit in those three categories.
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#12 brettchalupa
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All of these kids need to learn to just be themselves, and not the people they see in bands and on myspace.
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#13 nimatoad2000
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im a mealhead myself.. but i dont dress or act like one.. why? because the few metal ppl ive seen have long gross looking greasy hair, crappy band shirts and those old demin jackets i live very close to SF, the birthplace of Thrash of all places.. and i know maybee 3 people that like metal... at my highschool if you told ppl you liked metal.. you might as well have told someone you play wow ... what im saying is being public about both made you an outcast.... NO ONE would say they liked metal.. and no one said they played wow..
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I actually don't know any straightedge kids. I've got a lot of experience with scene kids and metal kids though. Both very cool groups of people, up to a point. Then they get extremely annoying. 

Honestly, I'm only willing to have so many conversations about how the Smiths are the greatest band of all time, or how metal requires more talent than any other genre. 

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#15 ghoklebutter
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All of these kids need to learn to just be themselves, and not the people they see in bands and on myspace.brettchalupa

QFT man, QFT. 

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#16 cementface9
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maybee i dont know what a metal kid is, please explain to me what they do and why its annoying.. ( i'm not a metal kid btw.. im just curious here )nimatoad2000

They look the same as your average scene kid, but they get mad if you call them scene. They listen to metal constantly, and ironically call almost every other music genre "repetitive". If I had a dollar for every time some outspoken metal kid tried to argue music with someone, and used the term "repetitive", I would be a BILLIONAIRE!

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#17 nimatoad2000
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if you dont believe metal dosnt require more talent that MOST ( not any) other genre.. listen to rust in peace. classical music and jazz require a lot of skill to... but then 3 chord punk and the guitar played by all these "popular bands" these days.. could be learned in 2 days by a 10 year old kid ( no offence to 10 year old kids)
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#18 Aquat1cF1sh
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I just get annoyed when people try to fit into a teenage stereotype, period.
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#19 DarkPrinceXC
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I don't even know what a "straightedge" or "scene" kid is. I've been away from civilization for a while.
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#20 Tuky06
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im a mealhead myself.. but i dont dress or act like one.. why? because the few metal ppl ive seen have long gross looking greasy hair, crappy band shirts and those old demin jackets i live very close to SF, the birthplace of Thrash of all places.. and i know maybee 3 people that like metal... at my highschool if you told ppl you liked metal.. you might as well have told someone you play wow ... what im saying is being public about both made you an outcast.... NO ONE would say they liked metal.. and no one said they played wow..nimatoad2000
If people won't like me just because I like a certain music genre or play a certain game, I would seriously think twice about it before becoming friends with them.
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[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]if you dont believe metal dosnt require more talent that MOST ( not any) other genre.. listen to rust in peace. classical music and jazz require a lot of skill to... but then 3 chord punk and the guitar played by all these "popular bands" these days.. could be learned in 2 days by a 10 year old kid ( no offence to 10 year old kids)

:lol: that reminds me of this one time: I was jamming with some friends, and then my friend told me to do a punk jam, so I should make the simplest punk riff I could imagine. I made something and I subconciously ended up with the main riff to Holiday by GreenDay. lol, I didn't even realize it, either.
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if you dont believe metal dosnt require more talent that MOST ( not any) other genre.. listen to rust in peace. classical music and jazz require a lot of skill to... but then 3 chord punk and the guitar played by all these "popular bands" these days.. could be learned in 2 days by a 10 year old kid ( no offence to 10 year old kids)nimatoad2000

I'd say that making music that people like to listen to is a talent in itself, regardless of how many chords you're using.

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#23 cementface9
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im a mealhead myself.. but i dont dress or act like one.. why? because the few metal ppl ive seen have long gross looking greasy hair, crappy band shirts and those old demin jackets i live very close to SF, the birthplace of Thrash of all places.. and i know maybee 3 people that like metal... at my highschool if you told ppl you liked metal.. you might as well have told someone you play wow ... what im saying is being public about both made you an outcast.... NO ONE would say they liked metal.. and no one said they played wow..nimatoad2000

Really? If only that were the case everywhere... Metal is a HUGE trend in most places. It's all about the hair, the clothes, and myspace. And there seems to be a local metal banded popping up almost every week. And yeah, they all sound the same: blast beats, breakdowns, and... not much else.

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#24 Luncbox1
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[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]if you dont believe metal dosnt require more talent that MOST ( not any) other genre.. listen to rust in peace. classical music and jazz require a lot of skill to... but then 3 chord punk and the guitar played by all these "popular bands" these days.. could be learned in 2 days by a 10 year old kid ( no offence to 10 year old kids)UnrighteousFury

I'd say that making music that people like to listen to is a talent in itself, regardless of how many chords you're using.

I don't know about that... I accidentally made Holiday by Green Day in about 20 seconds... I'd never even heard the song before...
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#25 brettchalupa
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I don't even think the "metal" kids listen to metal music. It is more hardcore/death metal music like White Chapel, Knights of the Abyss, and Impending Doom. This is at least what I have noticed. The scene kids, I don't think they listen to music, they just try to look as silly as a person possibly can. I am still trying to understand why anyone would want to label themselves.
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#26 UnrighteousFury
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[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]if you dont believe metal dosnt require more talent that MOST ( not any) other genre.. listen to rust in peace. classical music and jazz require a lot of skill to... but then 3 chord punk and the guitar played by all these "popular bands" these days.. could be learned in 2 days by a 10 year old kid ( no offence to 10 year old kids)Luncbox1

I'd say that making music that people like to listen to is a talent in itself, regardless of how many chords you're using.

I don't know about that... I accidentally made Holiday by Green Day in about 20 seconds... I'd never even heard the song before...

That doesn't exactly disprove my point. Simplicity doesn't always equal being a bad song.

Just for the record, I think Green Day is absolutely awful.

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#27 nimatoad2000
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all the " metal kids " i know.. dont even know real metal.. they listen to children of bodom, dragonforce ( lolforge) , amon amarth.. and other garbage.. but if you ask them if they like metallica , theyll say " they suck" cuz theyve only heard black and heard st anger was bad, and have no clue what kill em all and ride the lightning is.. they dont know maiden, think priest is bad cuz they have only heard youve got another thing coming, and dont know what electric eye and painkiller album are, never heard of megadeth.. and slaeor hurts their little brains.
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#28 Xeros606
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I actually don't know any straightedge kids. I've got a lot of experience with scene kids and metal kids though. Both very cool groups of people, up to a point. Then they get extremely annoying. 

Honestly, I'm only willing to have so many conversations about how the Smiths are the greatest band of all time, or how metal requires more talent than any other genre. 

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lol at my school metal is one of the in things and a lot of people (myself included) play or have played wow. ive played with some of the 'popular' people as well. the most annoying group imo are the "indie" kids, who listen to crap like fall out boy (not even indie rock). a recent development among these types is bringing a guitar to school and pretending to be a master shredder by playing AC/DC (angus young = overrated guitarist. ac/dc is decent but imo not great or special). but the most annoying part is the smug "i can do anything" attitude they seem to hold.
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#29 cementface9
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I don't even think the "metal" kids listen to metal music. It is more hardcore/death metal music like White Chapel, Knights of the Abyss, and Impending Doom. This is at least what I have noticed. The scene kids, I don't think they listen to music, they just try to look as silly as a person possibly can. I am still trying to understand why anyone would want to label themselves. brettchalupa

That's why I said "metal" instead of metal. I've had to hear about how talented and amazing and heavy all the bands you listed are when I was with some friends who like"metal". A friend of mine actually had "Nailed. Dead. Risen" (Impending Doom's cute tagline) tattooed on his collarbone. Can you say fail?

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#30 nimatoad2000
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theirs a reason why they call angus young the king of the power chord.. cuz thats all he does.. thats why all ACDC songs sound the same.. theyre made of a couple power chords repeated over and over. and ever says bon scott died all the songs have something to do with rock and roll... did u guys get black ice? half the songs have the words rock and roll in the title.. poor ACDC...
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#31 Iced_Earth_Rulz
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*sighs* I used to be a straightedge kid. I still love the hardcore music like Earth Crisis, Hatebreed, the path of resistance, Skarhead and Battleground. I don't consider myself a metalhead because I've really only started listening to it and for the most part I seem to like Metalcore more than metal. (don't bash me, **** off) Point is, hardcore kis rule. I really had no point, i'm high piss off. lol
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#32 fireball_016
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What the hell is a straight-edge kid?
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#33 UnrighteousFury
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What the hell is a straight-edge kid?fireball_016

It's a hardcore punk subculture, only without all the fun stuff.

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#34 stormtrooper32
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All the "metal" kids I see listen to crappy metalcore/deathcore/hardcore music....
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#35 brettchalupa
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What the hell is a straight-edge kid?fireball_016
XXX no drugs, no smoking, no drinking
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#36 Lief_Ericson
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The Metal elitest kids at my school make me sick becaus ethey look like they haven't showered in awhile but im cool with like 2 of them
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#37 crucifine
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I don't like judgemental kids, myself. Or vague generalizations.
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#38 LoG-Sacrament
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its more like kids in general.
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[QUOTE="fireball_016"]What the hell is a straight-edge kid?brettchalupa
XXX no drugs, no smoking, no drinking

I live that kind of life style due to personal preference not because its the right thing to do. Point being I don't talk down to peple because they do smoke etc. IDK it just seems like a lot of straight kids have some f@#ked god complex and always seem to look down on others because of the choices they make.
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#40 deactivated-6016e8567e48d
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[QUOTE="cementface9"]

What do you think of them?

I personally can't stand them. Whether it's the preachy straightedge kids, the unintelligent scene kids, or the obnoxious metal kids, they all appear to be the same thing to me: social waste.

ghoklebutter

"Gangsta" kids are far worse.

This = truth.
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#41 ConkerAndBerri2
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hey how come you didnt put a qoutation around the other two? do you have something against the metal kids? There all just stupid clicks, I personally dont let clicks define me, but what pisses me off most is judgemental people like you. You have no room to force an opinon on them so dont.
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[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]maybee i dont know what a metal kid is, please explain to me what they do and why its annoying.. ( i'm not a metal kid btw.. im just curious here )cementface9

They look the same as your average scene kid, but they get mad if you call them scene. They listen to metal constantly, and ironically call almost every other music genre "repetitive". If I had a dollar for every time some outspoken metal kid tried to argue music with someone, and used the term "repetitive", I would be a BILLIONAIRE!

the resemblance is uncanny!

           

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i don't get why people need to fall under social labels.

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#43 Solid_Snak3Xx
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I feel sorry for them =/
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#44 NearTheEnd
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ITT: Late Night Gamespot users diss "Social Waste."

LOL

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#45 Epak_
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This thread really brings teh lulz!!1 :D
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[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]all the " metal kids " i know.. dont even know real metal.. they listen to children of bodom, dragonforce ( lolforge) , amon amarth.. and other garbage.. but if you ask them if they like metallica , theyll say " they suck" cuz theyve only heard black and heard st anger was bad, and have no clue what kill em all and ride the lightning is.. they dont know maiden, think priest is bad cuz they have only heard youve got another thing coming, and dont know what electric eye and painkiller album are, never heard of megadeth.. and slaeor hurts their little brains.

You're kidding me. Children Of Bodom is simply awesome. Although, Megadeth is my favorite Metal band. I wouldn't call any music that obviously has some kind of talent and isn't like everything else, garbage. It's that kind of attitude that annoys other people(including me) when they discredit bands and call their music garbage, when obviously it's better than most of the other music out there and better than anything the said flaming person can come up with; Or else you wouldn't be here on this forum, calling other music garbage.
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#47 glenn2709
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I don't like scene kids, don't ask me why.
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#48 EMOEVOLUTION
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What do you think of them?

I personally can't stand them. Whether it's the preachy straightedge kids, the unintelligent scene kids, or the obnoxious metal kids, they all appear to be the same thing to me: social waste.

cementface9
You could say the same about you, as you're not really offering any constructive alternatives.
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#49 duxup
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People can be who they want to be, why should I care?
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#50 IrishPunk
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Stoner kids are the best.