Students Told to Call 9-11 Hijackers Freedom Fighters

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What is your opinion of this style of "teaching?"

oh Texas dave123321

Honestly this story seemed like something you'd find in a school up north....

Topic title took me a bit of time to understanddave123321

Go to sleep

Only thing I took out of this stupid story is the hilarious way in which it just shows how ridiculous people sound when they think any form of increased tolerance towards other view points is an attack on their own. Not saying I think anything in the article is justified, but I love how increased teaching and acceptance of Islam is automatically labelled anti-Christian or attacking Christianity. Pretty hard to relate to a group crying for tolerance of their own beliefs when they are so blatantly intolerant of others.

[QUOTE="dave123321"]Topic title took me a bit of time to understandkingkong0124

Go to sleep

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[QUOTE="dave123321"]Topic title took me a bit of time to understanddave123321

Go to sleep

Ohh okay. Are you always this slow man?

oh Texas dave123321

Honestly this story seemed like something you'd find in a school up north....

kingkong0124

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Go to sleep

kingkong0124

Ohh okay. Are you always this slow man?

dave123321

instructed them to refer to the 9-11 hijackers not as terrorists but as freedom fighters

Students at Lumberton High School were also told to stop referring to the Holocaust as Genocide instead they were told to use the term ethnic cleansing.

LeBlanc said the students were told that they could no longer use the terms suicide bomber or terrorist.

I don't even know where to f*cking start...

He's really trying to justify that? Bloody hell.

[QUOTE="dave123321"]kingkong0124

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="dave123321"]dave123321

[quote=""] instructed them to refer to the 9-11 hijackers not as terrorists but as freedom fighters

Students at Lumberton High School were also told to stop referring to the Holocaust as Genocide instead they were told to use the term ethnic cleansing.

LeBlanc said the students were told that they could no longer use the terms suicide bomber or terrorist.Celldrax

I don't even know where to f*cking start...

He's really trying to justify that? Bloody hell.

Teaching that there are other perspectives =/= justification.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="dave123321"]dave123321

Someone just reported me and gave me a moderation dude wtf

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[quote=""] instructed them to refer to the 9-11 hijackers not as terrorists but as freedom fighters

Students at Lumberton High School were also told to stop referring to the Holocaust as Genocide instead they were told to use the term ethnic cleansing.

LeBlanc said the students were told that they could no longer use the terms suicide bomber or terrorist.worlock77

I don't even know where to f*cking start...

He's really trying to justify that? Bloody hell.

Teaching that there are other perspectives =/= justification.

It wasn't the best choice of word. But as far as I know, 'freedom fighters' don't crash planes into buildings, or blow themselves up in an attempt to kill as many people as possible.

Only thing I took out of this stupid story is the hilarious way in which it just shows how ridiculous people sound when they think any form of increased tolerance towards other view points is an attack on their own. Not saying I think anything in the article is justified, but I love how increased teaching and acceptance of Islam is automatically labelled anti-Christian or attacking Christianity. Pretty hard to relate to a group crying for tolerance of their own beliefs when they are so blatantly intolerant of others.

SaintLeonidas

I'm of the growing opinion that a lot of today's 'tolerance' is causing more issues

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[QUOTE="Celldrax"]

[quote=""] instructed them to refer to the 9-11 hijackers not as terrorists but as freedom fighters

Students at Lumberton High School were also told to stop referring to the Holocaust as Genocide instead they were told to use the term ethnic cleansing.

LeBlanc said the students were told that they could no longer use the terms suicide bomber or terrorist.Celldrax

I don't even know where to f*cking start...

He's really trying to justify that? Bloody hell.

Teaching that there are other perspectives =/= justification.

It wasn't the best choice of word. But as far as I know, 'freedom fighters' don't crash planes into buildings, or blow themselves up in an attempt to kill as many people as possible.

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Dave do you think I should make an alt?kingkong0124

Someone just reported me and gave me a moderation dude wtf

smh. 

What is with the p*ssyfication of our society?

oh Texas dave123321

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Teaching that there are other perspectives =/= justification.

SaintLeonidas

It wasn't the best choice of word. But as far as I know, 'freedom fighters' don't crash planes into buildings, or blow themselves up in an attempt to kill as many people as possible.

I realise that...

[QUOTE="Celldrax"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Teaching that there are other perspectives =/= justification.

SaintLeonidas

It wasn't the best choice of word. But as far as I know, 'freedom fighters' don't crash planes into buildings, or blow themselves up in an attempt to kill as many people as possible.

[QUOTE="Celldrax"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Teaching that there are other perspectives =/= justification.

SaintLeonidas

It wasn't the best choice of word. But as far as I know, 'freedom fighters' don't crash planes into buildings, or blow themselves up in an attempt to kill as many people as possible.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Celldrax"]

[quote=""] instructed them to refer to the 9-11 hijackers not as terrorists but as freedom fighters

Students at Lumberton High School were also told to stop referring to the Holocaust as Genocide instead they were told to use the term ethnic cleansing.

LeBlanc said the students were told that they could no longer use the terms suicide bomber or terrorist.Celldrax

I don't even know where to f*cking start...

He's really trying to justify that? Bloody hell.

Teaching that there are other perspectives =/= justification.

It wasn't the best choice of word. But as far as I know, 'freedom fighters' don't crash planes into buildings, or blow themselves up in an attempt to kill as many people as possible.

Except the 9/11 hijackers didn't attept to kill as many people as possible. If that was their goal they would not have struck so early in the morning when the WTC was relatively empty. No their goal was to cripple the US economy and military.

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="Celldrax"]

It wasn't the best choice of word. But as far as I know, 'freedom fighters' don't crash planes into buildings, or blow themselves up in an attempt to kill as many people as possible.

lo_Pine

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]. ...yes, but there ARE people who do view them as freedom fighters. Hence OTHER perspective.SaintLeonidas

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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"] Saintleonidas, Adam Lanza had a perspective as well, his was that he had the right to kill kindergartners. Is that righteous action?lo_Pine

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"] ...you are a dumb f*ck for even trying to make this a valid point. Seriously. Do I think it was a righteous act? Um no. But if someone did, and you were teaching that people do believe such things are justified, then their is no problem what so ever in what you are doing as a teacher. Certain people in the world do in fact believe the terrorists on 9/11 were freedom fighters. There is nothing wrong at all in trying to teach students that there are people who believe such things. God forbid we trying to teach the "other side of the story" no matter how much we personally might disagree with that perspective :roll: Anyone who can't understand that concept is simple minded and quite honestly a moron.Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"] K, we can all agree that an intelligent person can think from both perspectives. But there is always one more righteous to an individual in each culture or frame of mind, as in Lanza's case. Yes, we may teach students of other cultures such as the Aztecs who practiced human sacrifice, but civilized humans today believe that act is savage. Have you ever heard of people who sacrifice other humans as "spiritual fighters" let alone freedom fighters? Do you think people in the future will look back and say "you know, those terrorists were really freedom fighters"?lo_Pine

You might want to go to an optometrist and get that myopia checked out.

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] It doesn't matter how history remembers it. Plain and simple, it's Group A is at war with Group B, because they have different opinions, neither of which can objectively be called 'correct'. Quit being so Ethnocentric, and understand both sides believe they are fighting for what is right.worlock77

You might want to go to an optometrist and get that myopia checked out.

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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"] Saintleonidas, Adam Lanza had a perspective as well, his was that he had the right to kill kindergartners. Is that righteous action?lo_Pine

...with each post I am beginning to believe the actual point of the arguments being made in this thread are well beyond your reach.

"Have you ever heard of people who sacrifice other humans as "spiritual fighters" let alone freedom fighters?" ...yes, there are Islamit's who believe such things. Do you honestly think other Muslims who do believe the US or 'western civilization' are a threat don't think they were freedom fighters? Do you happen to also live under a rock?

"Do you think people in the future will look back and say "you know, those terrorists were really freedom fighters"?"...again, that is not the point anyone is making. No one is saying they personally believe they are...seriously, not hard to comprehend:

#1 - Certain people do in fact believe those terrorists on 9/11 were 'freedom fighters' dying to preserve their beliefs.

#2 - Other people are teach the fact that is #1.

What part of that are you not getting? Someone saying "Hey...some people think terrorists were freedom fighters" =/= (in any way, shape or form) mean they also believe they were freedom fighters; and it does not mean they think the idea is justified. They are simply stating the fact that OTHERS do. 

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"] K, we can all agree that an intelligent person can think from both perspectives. But there is always one more righteous to an individual in each culture or frame of mind, as in Lanza's case. Yes, we may teach students of other cultures such as the Aztecs who practiced human sacrifice, but civilized humans today believe that act is savage. Have you ever heard of people who sacrifice other humans as "spiritual fighters" let alone freedom fighters? Do you think people in the future will look back and say "you know, those terrorists were really freedom fighters"?lo_Pine

Now you are being super absolute and saying that islam cannot exist in the west.

Anyway, I think it is important to teach that there are some people out there who are supporting islamic extremism, but freedom fighters is hardly a neutral term. I think the word extremist is appropriate. And there is hardly a difference besides syllables between ethnic cleanshing and genocide, so i don't really think that is an issue. Having the children wear religious clothing in school? Not sure what that is about. I think that is kinda messed up regardless of what is being tought.

I think there is a way to look at two sides of such an issue without totally swinging onto one side as far as this teacher did. It is almost like he is just going all out in his lesson to make a point, and that is just doing the kids a disservice.

It's true in the article that it's all a matter of perspective.. to the hijackers, they are freedom fighters, to us they are terrorists. It's all a matter of perspective. Personally I don't see how freedom fighters would want to kill innocent civilians so that throws that name out the window. But to them they think thats the right thing to do. (Double standard comes to play when a missle is off and kills innocents, then they scream about how the US kills innocent people and how that makes them evil murderers).Rattlesnake_8

Again, the 9/11 hijackers' goal wasn't necessarily not kill innocent citizens, it was to damage the United States. The World Trade Center and the Pentagon were strategic targets and the attacks were carried out quite early in the day. Had the goal simply been to kill as many people as possible then they would have struck later on. The WTC complex, for example, at the height of the average business day could have as many as 30,000 people within its buildings.