Suicide: Honourable or Cowardly

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#1 Chilled_AB
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What is your opinion on Suicide ? Do think it's an honourable act or a cowardly one.

Suicide has been done by people from many centuries, sometimes it's associated wih culture and other times with terrorism and everything in between.

What do think about about people who commit the act of taking their life ?

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#2 SolidSnake35
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I don't think it's either. It's just sad, unless it's like a suicide bomber in which case it's disgusting.
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#3 NdsGuru
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Terrorism: No.

People who are really depressed should be helped though

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#4 DeeJayInphinity
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Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I'm not going to go as far as saying its cowardly, though. Some of those people have serious mental issues that are difficult to handle.
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#5 tbone29
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Well, if that's their culture... then so be it.

But if you're just commiting suicide as a way out, then you're a quitter!
And quitters disgust me :x

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#6 whoody12
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it depends, if you do it for your contry, yes
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#7 dreamdude
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I only found it Honourable when those monks were setting themselves on fire to protest the Viatnam war.
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#8 Lorindol
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You can see it as both, someone gives their life to save someone else, and someone takes their own life to escape a problem that can be solved by talking about it and looking for a solution.
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#9 OfficialJab
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There's nothing wrong with it.
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#10 ernie1989
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Well, I wouldn't recommend it and if it was somebody I really cared for, I would try to convince them not to. However, if they do succeed at killing themselves, then I wouldn't really think of it as honorably or cowardly. Whether they want to live or not is their choice, so I'm not going to think of them in a bad or a good way no matter what they left behind. I'll just think of them as people who made a different choice.
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#11 RMage
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It's one of the many choices humans have. To end ones own life is a profound choice. It is neither cowardly or honorable, its just an act.
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#12 MattUD1
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Some could argue... necessary... They feel unneeded within the larger social oraganism and thus end their lives... Kind of like cells.
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#13 Video_Game_King
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Cowardly, although there's no point in bringing this up to someone who is suicidal, given that they probably have very low self esteem.
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#14 Tuvola
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If end your life for your country then it's a sad thing.

An honourable suicide is one that extends your legacy... and makes the whole place ring with your name. To make yourself a name that is remembered for having a great legacy to begin with and just capping it all off without getting old and crap. Good for you. What's the point of living when you feel you've already lived.

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#15 Chilled_AB
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I don't think you can really justify suicide, I mean if a kid has some serious mental problems and he believes suicide is the key to get away from these problems then I find that to be cowardly. Like someone stated, Suicide is a permanent solution to a problem which can eventusally be overcome in time.

I mean you know like in the Samurai culture it is considered honourable for one to commit seppuku but I believe i's just plain wrong, but that is just my opinion.

Terrorists are the worst of them all assuming that suicide bombing will take them into heaven. No where does it say in the Quran that if you kill people and do suicide you will go into heaven. These terrorists just give good muslims like me a bad name and that really makes me angry :x

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#16 rocket9434
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I don't think it's either. It's just sad, unless it's like a suicide bomber in which case it's disgusting.SolidSnake35

I totally agree. Also how many times are you going to change your sig and avatar :P? The one you have know looks the best though.

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#17 EboyLOL
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Generally speaking neither... it is what it is.
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#18 Video_Game_King
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I don't think you can really justify suicide, I mean if a kid has some serious mental problems and he believes suicide is the key to get away from these problems then I find that to be cowardly. Like someone stated, Suicide is a permanent solution to a problem which can eventusally be overcome in time.

I mean you know like in the Samurai culture it is considered honourable for one to commit seppuku but I believe i's just plain wrong, but that is just my opinion.

Terrorists are the worst of them all assuming that suicide bombing will take them into heaven. No where does it say in the Quran that if you kill people and do suicide you will go into heaven. These terrorists just give good muslims like me a bad name and that really makes me angry :x

Chilled_AB

Then again, every religion has a-holes like that. Muslims have bin Laden, Christians have people like Will Donahue, and Atheists have Richard Dawkins :P.

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#19 ElZilcho90
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Depends on the situation. The soldier who sacrifices himself by jumping onto a grenade, saving his friends from the blast? Obviously, honorable.

But individuals whose depression drives them to suicide... I wouldn't call it cowardly, since for the most part, they're in legitimate mental anguish. It's just exceptionally sad that they didn't get the help they needed.

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#20 EJ902
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Most times I consider it cowardly. I suppose in some circumstances it could be seen as honourable, such as if someone was sacrificing themselves to protect others in some form. But suicide to escape from trouble seems like a rather cowardly thing to do to me. I'm not quick to call it "cowardly" if some mental illness is involved somehow.
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#21 Jamiemydearx3
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Depends, if someone kills themselves because they have to many bills to pay or something thats a coward.

But if someone has a terrible life,(bad child hood, social problems, relationship failures, drug abuse etc.) then comiting suicide will save themself from a lot of pain. Im an atheist btw, so either way your going to end up in the same place.

Most people will disagree because they will say it will get better, but in reality it doesnt get better for most people, it useally gets worse.

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#22 zepman71
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I wouldn't call it cowardly or honorable. Like someone said before, its just an act. Its sad though, but some peoples lives are that bad that they have no other way out.....

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#24 LJSEXAY
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More a mental issue really....
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#25 MoldOnHold
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If it's cultural, then obviously it's neither. If it's caused by extreme depression it's also neither; just sad.
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#26 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Suicide is only acceptable when some one is in extreme pain like dieing in a hospital bed from cancer or AID's other then that it a cowards way out of a tough situation.
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#27 InterpolWilco
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"It requires more courage to suffer than to die" - Napoleon Bonaparte
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#28 Sandro909
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I think it takes guts, to be honest. Not as much guts over time to deal with life, but still, it takes more guts at one moment.
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#29 SOedipus
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Depends on the situation.
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#30 UTXII
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It depends on the person. It's just different... A drug addict that commits suicide, IMO, isn't viewed as honorable.

If one sacrafices himself, and that sacrafice happens to be an unlucky suicide, then they can be view as honorable.

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#31 uconnhuskies050
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Martyrdom=Honorable

Suicide=Cowardly

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#32 teh_destroyer
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Taking your own life is just as bad as taking someone elses life.But i guess it just depends on what type of culture you come from.
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#33 mfsa
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I think suicide bombing and Sati are both disgusting.

Besides those, I don't think suicide is either honourable or cowardly. I think if someone's unhappy enough to want to stop living, it's not cowardly - living with pain of any kind can be unbearable. My father suffered clinical depression for a few years after a tough divorce, and he tried to kill himself at least once. After what he went through, I am surprised and amazed that he coped with it all. I would not have thought less of him if he had killed himself.

Anyone who thinks suicide is cowardly just has no understanding of the immense weight emotional pain can have on a person. It's not just like feeling a little blue. Knowing that you have to live the rest of your life withoutyour life... starting again when you're dead inside... it just doesn't work.

But I don't think anyone should romanticise killing themselves, either. I don't see anything honourable in consciously deciding to kill yourself - making a distinction here between making a choice that results in one's death (as in, self-sacrifice - which is very honourable) and just killing yourself.

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#34 Swift_Boss_A
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If people honestly believed that killing oneself is the solution to all problems then mankind would not have come this far or achieved as much as it has.
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#35 dayaccus007
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I think is the most cowardly action that a human can done
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#36 Faylette
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Neither; it's tragic.
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#37 metallica_fan42
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I'm not going to flat out say it's cowardly, but when your last option is suicide, that's scary. People with metal issues is a little easier to understand. The people that don't are the ones that scare me.
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#38 Spartan_385
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I have always viewed suicide as cowardice, self-sacrifice on the other hand in different like dying to save someone I think it is very honourable.
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#39 Zagrius
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I don't think it's honourable or cowardly. I mostly consider it sad. If the guy was sane and wasn't sacrificing himself to save other people, then I also consider it stupid.
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#40 dodgerblue13
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I'd lean towards the coward side, but most people who go through with it have serious issues. In no way do I consider the deliberate loss of life honorable unless it's directly to save another, as in taking a bullet for someone.
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#41 DJ-Lafleur
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I wouldn't necessarily say killing oneself due to depression is cowardly. For people that just commit suicide without seeking help or aid, it's more stupid in that case, while people that try to seek help and support from others, yet still can not acquire a purpose for living, and then kill themselves, then it's more unfortunate. For a person that sacrifices themselves for the safety and good of comrads or loved ones or anyone really, that is very honorable.
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#42 Jambi86
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It depends on the circumstances. A disgraced Roman statesman who commits suicide in order to preserve his estate for his children would be honorable, on the other hand, a serial rapist who kills himself before trial would be cowardly.
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#43 USmellLikePoopy
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In my opinion it can be both honourble and cowardly, depending on the situation.
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#44 Indestructible2
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Depends on the situtation,could be brave and/or honourable or cowardly.
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#45 foxhound_fox
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Cowardly. It is taking the easy way out instead of facing your problems and overcoming them.
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#46 rzepak
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Its a personal choice it has nothing to do with being honourable or cowardly. Someone is tired of life why force him to go on? Im sure as heck not planning to live past 40.
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#47 NSR34GTR
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i think its cowardly
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#48 Zaeryn
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It's rarely honourable, more like pathetic that they can't find a way to deal with their life and change it and then end it.
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#49 Dias99
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I don't think it's either. It's just sad, unless it's like a suicide bomber in which case it's disgusting.SolidSnake35
I agree 100%.
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#50 darksword1123
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Cowardly in most cases.