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#51 Pirate700
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isnt captain america super strong...?

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I was just going to say this. He also has super stamina. :|
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#52 Hockey_Slayer
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What a surprise Batman is winning the poll. But seriously people think batman can beat Iron Man?? You got to be kidding me You all say how smart batman is and talk about how he will just use one of his gadgets to stop Iron Man's suite. You all act like Tony Stark is a moron or something. Do you think he would actually fight batman without thinking of away to beat him, he's not just going to let Batman stop him with some gadget. Batman maybe the smartest in the Dc universe but Tony Stark is one of the smartest (If not the smartest) in the Marvel universe he also has money like batman to back him up.
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#53 Sajedene
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What a surprise Batman is winning the poll. But seriously people think batman can beat Iron Man?? You got to be kidding me You all say how smart batman is and talk about how he will just use one of his gadgets to stop Iron Man's suite. You all act like Tony Stark is a moron or something. Do you think he would actually fight batman without thinking of away to beat him, he's not just going to let Batman stop him with some gadget. Batman maybe the smartest in the Dc universe but Tony Stark is one of the smartest (If not the smartest) in the Marvel universe he also has money like batman to back him up.Hockey_Slayer

Actually Batman is universally hailed as the smartest in the DC universe with his only competition being Lex Luthor.

In the Marvel Universe, Tony is smart but is not the smartest as he has to compete with Dr. Reed Richards, Prof. X, Dr. Doom, Hank Pym, and even Bruce Banner (the Hulk) -- who are all considered to be smarter than he is.

When Iron Man fought the Hulk -- he lost ....... when Batman fought Superman -- Batman won.

Source + comic books yeah

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#54 Hockey_Slayer
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[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"]What a surprise Batman is winning the poll. But seriously people think batman can beat Iron Man?? You got to be kidding me You all say how smart batman is and talk about how he will just use one of his gadgets to stop Iron Man's suite. You all act like Tony Stark is a moron or something. Do you think he would actually fight batman without thinking of away to beat him, he's not just going to let Batman stop him with some gadget. Batman maybe the smartest in the Dc universe but Tony Stark is one of the smartest (If not the smartest) in the Marvel universe he also has money like batman to back him up.Sajedene
Actually Batman is universally hailed as the smartest in the DC universe with his only competition being Lex Luthor -- in the Marvel Universe, Tony is smart but is not the smartest as he has to compete with Dr. Reed Richards, Prof. X, Dr. Doom, Hank Pym, and even Bruce Banner (the Hulk) -- who are all considered to be smarter than he is. When Iron Man fought the Hulk -- he lost ....... when Batman fought Superman -- Batman won. Source

Thanks to kryptonite batman won. IronMan had nothing like that to beat The Hulk. Just because Tony Stark has more people to compete with for being the smartest dosn't make him not as smart as batman. Arguing this really is pretty stupid because we well never know who well win because they have never fought.
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#55 thusaha
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Batman.
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#56 Head_of_games
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Bat man is cool, but ironman is more powerful.
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#57 awesomeface
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Alright people, tell me: how the **** would Batman beat Iron Man? Seriously...chessmaster1989
He's the god damn batman. Also, he must have something in that utility belt of his that can take him down.
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#58 montzag
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I'd say Batman.
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#59 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Alright people, tell me: how the **** would Batman beat Iron Man? Seriously...awesomeface
He's the god damn batman. Also, he must have something in that utility belt of his that can take him down.

Like what? :P
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#60 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"]What a surprise Batman is winning the poll. But seriously people think batman can beat Iron Man?? You got to be kidding me You all say how smart batman is and talk about how he will just use one of his gadgets to stop Iron Man's suite. You all act like Tony Stark is a moron or something. Do you think he would actually fight batman without thinking of away to beat him, he's not just going to let Batman stop him with some gadget. Batman maybe the smartest in the Dc universe but Tony Stark is one of the smartest (If not the smartest) in the Marvel universe he also has money like batman to back him up.Hockey_Slayer
Actually Batman is universally hailed as the smartest in the DC universe with his only competition being Lex Luthor -- in the Marvel Universe, Tony is smart but is not the smartest as he has to compete with Dr. Reed Richards, Prof. X, Dr. Doom, Hank Pym, and even Bruce Banner (the Hulk) -- who are all considered to be smarter than he is. When Iron Man fought the Hulk -- he lost ....... when Batman fought Superman -- Batman won. Source

Thanks to kryptonite batman won. IronMan had nothing like that to beat The Hulk. Just because Tony Stark has more people to compete with for being the smartest dosn't make him not as smart as batman. Arguing this really is pretty stupid because we well never know who well win because they have never fought.

Given to him by supes himself. Really... that aside, Batman will beat Iron Man. I don't see why this is stupid as any person familiar with the strengths, weaknesses, and history of these characters would easily be able to deduce it. The way I see it is, first encounter, Batman would be losing and he would fall back and deduce something to beat Iron Man down.
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#61 Hockey_Slayer
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[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Actually Batman is universally hailed as the smartest in the DC universe with his only competition being Lex Luthor -- in the Marvel Universe, Tony is smart but is not the smartest as he has to compete with Dr. Reed Richards, Prof. X, Dr. Doom, Hank Pym, and even Bruce Banner (the Hulk) -- who are all considered to be smarter than he is. When Iron Man fought the Hulk -- he lost ....... when Batman fought Superman -- Batman won. SourceSajedene
Thanks to kryptonite batman won. IronMan had nothing like that to beat The Hulk. Just because Tony Stark has more people to compete with for being the smartest dosn't make him not as smart as batman. Arguing this really is pretty stupid because we well never know who well win because they have never fought.

Given to him by supes himself. Really... that aside, Batman will beat Iron Man. I don't see why this is stupid as any person familiar with the strengths, weaknesses, and history of these characters would easily be able to deduce it. The way I see it is, first encounter, Batman would be losing and he would fall back and deduce something to beat Iron Man down.

Will my opinion on the fight is different but like I said were not going to agree on what happens, and we will ever know because they will never fight.
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#62 greenprince
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Ironman is a superhero I don't consider a superhero without super powers, although it is true that he is human most of his abilities derive from his suit and thus to me is considered a superhero with superpowers almost kind like Thor whose abilities come from his weapons.
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#63 antiredcap
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most of his abilities derive from his suit and thus to me is considered a superhero with superpowers greenprince
You could say the same for batman.
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#64 greenprince
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[QUOTE="greenprince"]most of his abilities derive from his suit and thus to me is considered a superhero with superpowers antiredcap
You could say the same for batman.

Yes, but Batman does not rely entirely on his suit/belt, in fact, Batman usually wins fights with mostly just intellect and martial arts even without his equipment. You can't say the same for Tony, whose abilities and effectiveness all come from his armoured suit, heck, even his A.I in his suit analyzes the situation and does the thinking for him!
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#65 dixietracy
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Punisher wins

PUNISHER ALL THE WAY! He is so bad-ass and sexy!

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#66 Lief_Ericson
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Iron Man and Batman, but I voted Iron Man because hes got an awesome suit
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#67 pygmahia5
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i like the punisher because of the whole "avenge my family" thing. but batman is also incredibly awesome.
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#68 TheHolyDevil16
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Ok ok we all love batman but to be honest batman is just a rich guy and trough this way he gets his uber gear but The punisher he has just his guns no james bond stuff like batman so i vote for The Punisher ehh and btw the storyline from the punisher is better than Batman xD if some 1 saw the move he gonna understand what i mean

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#69 kemar7856
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isnt captain america super strong...?

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I thought that 2 he was genetically modified or some crap like that.

update* Soldier serum I guess thats not considered a power
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#70 trangttuong
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[QUOTE="AncientNecro"][QUOTE="Sajedene"]Batman for me. Sajedene
i agree with saje, not like i ever disagree with her ;)

You should try it sometime -- if done right (like you're disagreeing with me not just to disagree but because you truly believe in your convictions) it can be quite fun and educational.

you remind me of a friend... she speak the same way you do. OH! I would have choose Batman , but IronMan have more powerful techno stuff (he own a weapon factory , right?) that's why ivoted for him.
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#71 trangttuong
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[QUOTE="antiredcap"][QUOTE="greenprince"]most of his abilities derive from his suit and thus to me is considered a superhero with superpowers greenprince
You could say the same for batman.

Yes, but Batman does not rely entirely on his suit/belt, in fact, Batman usually wins fights with mostly just intellect and martial arts even without his equipment. You can't say the same for Tony, whose abilities and effectiveness all come from his armoured suit, heck, even his A.I in his suit analyzes the situation and does the thinking for him!

And who makes the suit? Him , of course
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#72 Neon-Tiger
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Batman. Why is this a matter of discussion?
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#73 greenprince
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[QUOTE="greenprince"][QUOTE="antiredcap"] You could say the same for batman.trangttuong
Yes, but Batman does not rely entirely on his suit/belt, in fact, Batman usually wins fights with mostly just intellect and martial arts even without his equipment. You can't say the same for Tony, whose abilities and effectiveness all come from his armoured suit, heck, even his A.I in his suit analyzes the situation and does the thinking for him!

And who makes the suit? Him , of course

Technically not even him, apparently he can control the suit through thought alone or even use A.I to face it, Tony isn't nowhere human when he wears a Iron suit that gives him superpowers that no other person can replicate.
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#74 Marksman2200
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It's between The Green Arrow and Batman.
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#75 -Sniper99-
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No Rorschach = Insta-Phail
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#76 rmerri52
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Batman
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#77 Vaasman
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Well I say the Green Lantern because his power comes from his ring, and he could whip all of those guys no problem.
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#78 honkyjoe
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Batman for sure
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#79 bobaban
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Well I say the Green Lantern because his power comes from his ring, and he could whip all of those guys no problem.Vaasman

Well thats why he should not be allowed on the list because "something" gives him super powers despite him being normal. Also Iron Man and Capt. America should not be on there for the same reason.

Batman is the best, some other good choices would be:

Green Arrow

Mr. Terrific

Wild Cat

The Question

Bruce Banner

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#80 bobaban
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"]What a surprise Batman is winning the poll. But seriously people think batman can beat Iron Man?? You got to be kidding me You all say how smart batman is and talk about how he will just use one of his gadgets to stop Iron Man's suite. You all act like Tony Stark is a moron or something. Do you think he would actually fight batman without thinking of away to beat him, he's not just going to let Batman stop him with some gadget. Batman maybe the smartest in the Dc universe but Tony Stark is one of the smartest (If not the smartest) in the Marvel universe he also has money like batman to back him up.Hockey_Slayer
Actually Batman is universally hailed as the smartest in the DC universe with his only competition being Lex Luthor -- in the Marvel Universe, Tony is smart but is not the smartest as he has to compete with Dr. Reed Richards, Prof. X, Dr. Doom, Hank Pym, and even Bruce Banner (the Hulk) -- who are all considered to be smarter than he is. When Iron Man fought the Hulk -- he lost ....... when Batman fought Superman -- Batman won. Source

Thanks to kryptonite batman won. IronMan had nothing like that to beat The Hulk. Just because Tony Stark has more people to compete with for being the smartest dosn't make him not as smart as batman. Arguing this really is pretty stupid because we well never know who well win because they have never fought.

Well Spider-Man beat the Hulk by telling a knock-knock joke.....

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#81 munu9
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Alright people, tell me: how the **** would Batman beat Iron Man? Seriously...chessmaster1989
Many ways. He'd probably find out where he lived and destroy his suit. And if he didn't, he would probably swing an EMP batarang at him and disable his suit...
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#82 MagnumPI
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Frank Castle doesn't have anything extraordinary, he just has gunnary. I don't think a character is required to have super powers to be a super hero, they just have to be a superior hero.

I think Characters like Punisher, Batman and similar were created for those who prefer a realistic character, not some guy or gal with freak powers.

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#83 blazinpuertoroc
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Alright people, tell me: how the **** would Batman beat Iron Man? Seriously...Sajedene
Batman has the tools and gadgets equal to or better than Iron Man's ... not to mention -- Batman is considered (IS) the best detective and one of the greatest minds of the comic book (not just DC as I am taking into account crossovers) universe. Batman > Iron Man.

give me a freaking break, Iron man will take out batman in a single hit. KEEP DREAMING
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#84 blazinpuertoroc
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also the original captain america does have powers. He has super strength, speed, etc.
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#85 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Alright people, tell me: how the **** would Batman beat Iron Man? Seriously...blazinpuertoroc
Batman has the tools and gadgets equal to or better than Iron Man's ... not to mention -- Batman is considered (IS) the best detective and one of the greatest minds of the comic book (not just DC as I am taking into account crossovers) universe. Batman > Iron Man.

give me a freaking break, Iron man will take out batman in a single hit. KEEP DREAMING

And yet he lost to the Hulk. Hahahahahaaaaaa.........
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#86 blazinpuertoroc
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[QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Batman has the tools and gadgets equal to or better than Iron Man's ... not to mention -- Batman is considered (IS) the best detective and one of the greatest minds of the comic book (not just DC as I am taking into account crossovers) universe. Batman > Iron Man.Sajedene
give me a freaking break, Iron man will take out batman in a single hit. KEEP DREAMING

And yet he lost to the Hulk. Hahahahahaaaaaa.........

its the friggen hulk, The hulk can even beat the hell out of thor!!! But Iron Man can still beat the piss out of batman! Deal with it babe
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#87 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"]give me a freaking break, Iron man will take out batman in a single hit. KEEP DREAMINGblazinpuertoroc
And yet he lost to the Hulk. Hahahahahaaaaaa.........

its the friggen hulk, The hulk can even beat the hell out of thor!!! But Iron Man can still beat the piss out of batman! Deal with it babe

FYI -- Batman has defeated The Hulk. 1981 -- go look it up.
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#88 Neon-Tiger
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[QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] And yet he lost to the Hulk. Hahahahahaaaaaa.........Sajedene
its the friggen hulk, The hulk can even beat the hell out of thor!!! But Iron Man can still beat the piss out of batman! Deal with it babe

FYI -- Batman has defeated The Hulk. 1981 -- go look it up.

That issue was flawed. Batman HURT Hulk by attacking his ears and stomach when Hulk was holding is breath. It doesn't make any sense really. I still vote for Batman in this thread though.
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"]its the friggen hulk, The hulk can even beat the hell out of thor!!! But Iron Man can still beat the piss out of batman! Deal with it babeNeon-Tiger
FYI -- Batman has defeated The Hulk. 1981 -- go look it up.

That issue was flawed. Batman HURT Hulk by attacking his ears and stomach when Hulk was holding is breath. It doesn't make any sense really. I still vote for Batman in this thread though.

Lol no it doesn't but I will justify it by saying perhaps the bats was attacking his weaknesses (boxing the ears lol) -- but bottom line is Batman still won. I believe only person on this list who has defeated Batman was Captain America (the one with the super serum -- not Bucky)
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#90 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"]its the friggen hulk, The hulk can even beat the hell out of thor!!! But Iron Man can still beat the piss out of batman! Deal with it babeNeon-Tiger
FYI -- Batman has defeated The Hulk. 1981 -- go look it up.

That issue was flawed. Batman HURT Hulk by attacking his ears and stomach when Hulk was holding is breath. It doesn't make any sense really. I still vote for Batman in this thread though.

but tiger,that shows exactly why batman would win,he finds weaknesses and exploits them. Thats what he did to the hulk,that is what he would do to iron man.
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#91 II_Seraphim_II
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Batman, and captain america has super abilities. Another "super-hero" i like, equal to batman is Vash The Stampede. I guess its argueable that he has super powers, but he doesnt do anything that any of the human characters in the show cant do. He purposely lowers his regenerative ability, so while he does heal faster than most humans, its not instantaneous like his brother Knives. And as for his ARM, it doesnt count because the only times he ever uses it, its actually working against him, rather than for him. Plus, he is an awesome character :D
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#93 Neon-Tiger
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[QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] FYI -- Batman has defeated The Hulk. 1981 -- go look it up. mattykovax
That issue was flawed. Batman HURT Hulk by attacking his ears and stomach when Hulk was holding is breath. It doesn't make any sense really. I still vote for Batman in this thread though.

but tiger,that shows exactly why batman would win,he finds weaknesses and exploits them. Thats what he did to the hulk,that is what he would do to iron man.

Well. I would totally accept that if it wasn't for the fact that the Hulk has received quite a few beatings from Thor and other characters in the same league of strenght, while surviving with no problems. Thor FFS!!! He has like, the strenght of a gazillion humans! And Hulk survived that! How can a weakling like Batman (sorry Batman, I still love you) beat him with a few well placed, but human-strenght shots? The Hulk shouldn't even feel it! I'm sure Batman could beat him (traps, special-built weapon, etc), but not on a fair fight.
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#94 antiredcap
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I can't believe how popular Batman is. Ever since I saw a pic of him kissing Robin I cant look at him in the same way.
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#95 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"] That issue was flawed. Batman HURT Hulk by attacking his ears and stomach when Hulk was holding is breath. It doesn't make any sense really. I still vote for Batman in this thread though.Neon-Tiger
but tiger,that shows exactly why batman would win,he finds weaknesses and exploits them. Thats what he did to the hulk,that is what he would do to iron man.

Well. I would totally accept that if it wasn't for the fact that the Hulk has received quite a few beatings from Thor and other characters in the same league of strenght, while surviving with no problems. Thor FFS!!! He has like, the strenght of a gazillion humans! And Hulk survived that! How can a weakling like Batman (sorry Batman, I still love you) beat him with a few well placed, but human-strenght shots? The Hulk shouldn't even feel it! I'm sure Batman could beat him (traps, special-built weapon, etc), but not on a fair fight.

Well I for one never once said anything about batman fighting FAIR.
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Alright people, tell me: how the **** would Batman beat Iron Man? Seriously...Sajedene
Batman has the tools and gadgets equal to or better than Iron Man's ... not to mention -- Batman is considered (IS) the best detective and one of the greatest minds of the comic book (not just DC as I am taking into account crossovers) universe. Batman > Iron Man.

I'm sorry, but does Batman have a metal suite that can fly, act as a flamethrower, and so on? I thought not...

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]Well I for one never once said anything about batman fighting FAIR.mattykovax
True, but on this specific issue where he defeats the Hulk that is what happens. He defeats him in a one-on-one fight. Pretty ridiculous. I do think that Batman can beat any character using his cunningness, and beating Hulk using less brutal tactics would be far more believable.
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#98 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"]]Well I for one never once said anything about batman fighting FAIR.Neon-Tiger
True, but on this specific issue where he defeats the Hulk that is what happens. He defeats him in a one-on-one fight. Pretty ridiculous. I do think that Batman can beat any character using his cunningness, and beating Hulk using less brutal tactics would be far more believable.

Honestly I never read that one,what was the crossover?
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#99 antiredcap
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[QUOTE="Neon-Tiger"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]]Well I for one never once said anything about batman fighting FAIR.mattykovax
True, but on this specific issue where he defeats the Hulk that is what happens. He defeats him in a one-on-one fight. Pretty ridiculous. I do think that Batman can beat any character using his cunningness, and beating Hulk using less brutal tactics would be far more believable.

Honestly I never read that one,what was the crossover?

DC Special Series #27 (Fall 1981)

hulk wins

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[QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] And yet he lost to the Hulk. Hahahahahaaaaaa.........Sajedene
its the friggen hulk, The hulk can even beat the hell out of thor!!! But Iron Man can still beat the piss out of batman! Deal with it babe

FYI -- Batman has defeated The Hulk. 1981 -- go look it up.

Iron man will still kick batmans ass...Deal with it:|