Survey shows liberals are more prone to mental instability than conservatives

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

nikola tesla had OCD. Lai cured himself of it thus he's smarter than tesla because reasons

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Abbeten"] that post was actually in response to your hilarious claim that you can alter your own brain chemistry through sheer force of willlostrib

You probably didnt really have OCD to begin with

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

nikola tesla had OCD. Lai cured himself of it thus he's smarter than tesla because reasons

Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] I recognized my problem and took responsibility for it. An intelligent self-aware individual can objectively recognize irrational behaviour. If you recognize that what you are doing is irrational then you have no reason to keep doing it.Laihendi

Many people with those disorders are unable to recognize their thinking is irrational, they have a disconnect with reality

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] I recognized my problem and took responsibility for it. An intelligent self-aware individual can objectively recognize irrational behaviour. If you recognize that what you are doing is irrational then you have no reason to keep doing it.Laihendi

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] I recognized my problem and took responsibility for it. An intelligent self-aware individual can objectively recognize irrational behaviour. If you recognize that what you are doing is irrational then you have no reason to keep doing it.Laihendi

It usually requires quite a bit of therapy, often in combination with drugs.  It is not something done cold turkey, it requires them to learn to tolerate their anxiety

An intelligent self-aware individual can objectively recognize irrational behaviour. If you recognize that what you are doing is irrational then you have no reason to keep doing it.Laihendi

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]You should tell that to patients of clinical depression and schizophrenia and see what they say. Because it's easy to simply change your brain chemistry just like that.Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] It doesn't do any good to explain the value of rational thinking to someone. If it is not axiomatic to them then they are incapable of understanding.Laihendi

Mentally ill people are unable to recognize that what they are doing is irrational.  And to be honest, based on some of your posts, you seem far from rational on many subjects

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]An intelligent self-aware individual can objectively recognize irrational behaviour. If you recognize that what you are doing is irrational then you have no reason to keep doing it.Ace6301

As I have said many times, whether one deserves rights is a meaningless question. You either have them or you do not. They are either inherent to your existence, or they are not. If you have no concept of self then you are incapable of valuing your life in any capacity, which makes the concept of having a right to live meaningless to you, and nonexistent for you.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]An intelligent self-aware individual can objectively recognize irrational behaviour. If you recognize that what you are doing is irrational then you have no reason to keep doing it.Laihendi

As I have said many times, whether one deserves rights is a meaningless question. You either have them or you do not. They are either inherent to your existence, or they are not. If you have no concept of self then you are incapable of valuing your life in any capacity, which makes the concept of having a right to live meaningless to you, and nonexistent for you.

Stop pulling stuff out of your psuedo-intellectual ass

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]An intelligent self-aware individual can objectively recognize irrational behaviour. If you recognize that what you are doing is irrational then you have no reason to keep doing it.Laihendi

As I have said many times, whether one deserves rights is a meaningless question. You either have them or you do not. They are either inherent to your existence, or they are not. If you have no concept of self then you are incapable of valuing your life in any capacity, which makes the concept of having a right to live meaningless to you, and nonexistent for you.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]You should tell that to patients of clinical depression and schizophrenia and see what they say. Because it's easy to simply change your brain chemistry just like that.Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Anyone else notice this? He says a self-aware individual can overcome irrational behavior and then later says most people cannot overcome irrational behavior. The kicker comes in when Lai thinks that individuals who aren't self-aware don't deserve rights. Anyone else seeing a rather unfortunate logical conclusion to this line of thought?lostrib

As I have said many times, whether one deserves rights is a meaningless question. You either have them or you do not. They are either inherent to your existence, or they are not. If you have no concept of self then you are incapable of valuing your life in any capacity, which makes the concept of having a right to live meaningless to you, and nonexistent for you.

Stop pulling stuff out of your psuedo-intellectual ass

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] It doesn't do any good to explain the value of rational thinking to someone. If it is not axiomatic to them then they are incapable of understanding.Laihendi

So only people that agree with you are capable of being rational?  All you've demonstrated is that you're a dumbass, and an entitled little child

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]An intelligent self-aware individual can objectively recognize irrational behaviour. If you recognize that what you are doing is irrational then you have no reason to keep doing it.Laihendi

As I have said many times, whether one deserves rights is a meaningless question. You either have them or you do not. They are either inherent to your existence, or they are not. If you have no concept of self then you are incapable of valuing your life in any capacity, which makes the concept of having a right to live meaningless to you, and nonexistent for you.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] If you aren't self aware then you are not an individual. If you have no concept of self then there is no inherent meaning to your existence.

As I have said many times, whether one deserves rights is a meaningless question. You either have them or you do not. They are either inherent to your existence, or they are not. If you have no concept of self then you are incapable of valuing your life in any capacity, which makes the concept of having a right to live meaningless to you, and nonexistent for you.

Laihendi

Stop pulling stuff out of your psuedo-intellectual ass

I didn't say that.  You are just spouting off worthless rhetoric.  You're not proving anything, or showing any proof.  You probably have no understanding of what it means to be self aware, let alone self actualization.  

i truly pity you the second your parents' money runs out for you and you're forced to join the real worldAbbeten

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Stop pulling stuff out of your psuedo-intellectual ass

lostrib

I didn't say that.  You are just spouting off worthless rhetoric.  You're not proving anything, or showing any proof.  You probably have no understanding of what it means to be self aware, let alone self actualization.  

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] If you were truly diagnosed with a mental disorder, you might THINK your thought process was rational, however you would not know if it was. So if you had OCD, it's possible you still do.lostrib

So only people that agree with you are capable of being rational?  All you've demonstrated is that you're a dumbass, and an entitled little child

@LJ - A rebuttal would be appreciated.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] lostrib logic - If an idea isn't mentioned in one of my school's textbooks, then it's pseudo-intellectual. True intellectuals think for themselves.Laihendi

I didn't say that.  You are just spouting off worthless rhetoric.  You're not proving anything, or showing any proof.  You probably have no understanding of what it means to be self aware, let alone self actualization.  

Go read a book.  But simply stating "aware of one's self" is extremely shallow as a definition, it's really just a rearrangement of the term without any meaning

My values and principles are objective, so anyone who contradicts them is irrational.

Laihendi

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]I have objectively demonstrated what it means to be rational. Anyone who recognizes the truth of what I said is capable of being rational. Some people with mental disorders are capable of overcoming their irrationality. Others are not.Laihendi

So only people that agree with you are capable of being rational?  All you've demonstrated is that you're a dumbass, and an entitled little child

@LJ - A rebuttal would be appreciated.

They most definitely are not objective as you have shown how biased you are and how poorly you view/understand reality.  And it is a cowardly argument to just label anyone who disagrees with you as irrational, rather than actually debating the point

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

So only people that agree with you are capable of being rational?  All you've demonstrated is that you're a dumbass, and an entitled little child

lostrib

@LJ - A rebuttal would be appreciated.

They most definitely are not objective as you have shown how biased you are and how poorly you view/understand reality.  And it is a cowardly argument to just label anyone who disagrees with you as irrational, rather than actually debating the point

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] My values and principles are objective, so anyone who contradicts them is irrational.

 

@LJ - A rebuttal would be appreciated.

Laihendi

They most definitely are not objective as you have shown how biased you are and how poorly you view/understand reality.  And it is a cowardly argument to just label anyone who disagrees with you as irrational, rather than actually debating the point

You are a coward, for god sake you are such an entitled child that you are too afraid to go out in the world and actually earn your way.

The problem is that you are unable to recognize your own false ideas, faults, or irrationalities, which would point to the fact that your are not self aware

Laihendi

That's a great defense to have, isn't it? Your arrogance in your own rationality (which is based on Rand and not your own ideas) means you can immediately dismiss anyone else as irrational/illogical/stupid/evil/etc.

Nothing that despite a fair few people reading this forum, that few share any of your ideas, and none have come to the same conclusions as you.

Which is more likely? You have found a great understanding of the universe and you are correct or that you have an extremely unlikely perception of the world, and that other intellecutal people, like some of those in OT, have equally valid ideas?

That's a great defense to have, isn't it? Your arrogance in your own rationality (which is based on Rand and not your own ideas) means you can immediately dismiss anyone else as irrational/illogical/stupid/evil/etc.

Nothing that despite a fair few people reading this forum, that few share any of your ideas, and none have come to the same conclusions as you.

Which is more likely? You have found a great understanding of the universe and you are correct or that you have an extremely unlikely perception of the world, and that other intellecutal people, like some of those in OT, have equally valid ideas?

jimkabrhel

It doesn't matter whether people agree with me, because consensus has no bearing on truth. You are making an appeal to consensus.

An idea is either true, or it is false. If an idea is true than all contradicting ideas are necessarily false. Contradicting ideas are not equally valid.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

They most definitely are not objective as you have shown how biased you are and how poorly you view/understand reality.  And it is a cowardly argument to just label anyone who disagrees with you as irrational, rather than actually debating the point

lostrib

You are a coward, for god sake you are such an entitled child that you are too afraid to go out in the world and actually earn your way.

The problem is that you are unable to recognize your own false ideas, faults, or irrationalities, which would point to the fact that your are not self aware

In our most recent survey, Liberals in general were 64% more likely to report major depression, 320% more likely to report bipolar disorder, 50% more likely to report mild depression, and 113% more likely to report Seasonal Affective Disorder.

They were also more likely to use a variety of anti-anxiety and depressive drugs, such as SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors)--86% more likely, and Anti-anxiety drugs--159% more likely. SNRIs (Selective Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitors ) and Tricyclics were also used at a higher rate, but not in significant numbers for either Liberals or Conservatives.

One interesting note, Liberals and Conservatives reported a very high satisfaction rate with the anti-anxiety drugs. SNRIs were also well received, though not as well as the anti-anxiety drug group. SSRIs had mixed reviews, and tricyclics were generally disliked.

Laihendi

It's actually because conservatives have a tendency to induce mental instability in liberals.

In all serious, though, there are some key words we should be focused on here: more likely to report depression and to take drugs.  All this really means is that liberals actually acknowledge mental issues and do what they can to treat them.  The inverse of this is that conservatives are more likely to not report mental issues, leave them untreated, and probably have them come out in unhealthy ways.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] I am not a coward. I am not afraid of false ideas because I am armed with knowledge and the capacity for reason. I debate opposing ideas here almost every day. Again, please explain to me what it means to be self-aware.Laihendi

You are a coward, for god sake you are such an entitled child that you are too afraid to go out in the world and actually earn your way.

The problem is that you are unable to recognize your own false ideas, faults, or irrationalities, which would point to the fact that your are not self aware

See? you don't even have the ability to recognize or admit that you might be wrong.  You arrogant, entitled child

Please tell me what my faults are, and I will explain why you are wrong. Laihendi

Here's a fault right here

your explanations of why opposing ideas are wrong tend to run along the lines of 'no, that is irrational because it is contradictory to my own views'Abbeten

In all serious, though, there are some key words we should be focused on here: more likely to report depression and to take drugs.  All this really means is that liberals actually acknowledge mental issues and do what they can to treat them.  The inverse of this is that conservatives are more likely to not report mental issues, leave them untreated, and probably have them come out in unhealthy ways.

theone86

Please tell me what my faults are, and I will explain why you are wrong. Tell me which of my ideas are irrational, and I will explain why you are wrong.Laihendi

That's an overarching thing, really. On a smaller scale there are a lot of individual howlers you've spouted.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Please tell me what my faults are, and I will explain why you are wrong. -Sun_Tzu-

Here's a fault right here

 I don't dismiss opposing ideas. I explain why they are wrong.

Laihendi

Which is dismissing opposing ideas. 

You cannot concieve of the idea that based on your idea of rationality, everyone else might be right and you might be wrong, because you cannot see any other ideas as rational. Therefore you cannot be objective about your own belief systen.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Please tell me what my faults are, and I will explain why you are wrong. Laihendi

Here's a fault right here

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Please tell me what my faults are, and I will explain why you are wrong. Laihendi

Here's a fault right here

I don't even have that kind of arrogance and I'm one arrogant SOB

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[QUOTE="Laihendi"] I have plenty of room, because I am not a mindless conformist. I am capable of forming intelligent critiques without being told what to think.Laihendi

Your ideas are not original. 

Also, you're hardly going to have an objective view of your own intelligence or your own critiques, so why do you think I should care about your own self-assessments?

bfffffffffthahahahhahahah

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"]Please tell me what my faults are, and I will explain why you are wrong. Laihendi

Here's a fault right here

you're confusing confidence for arrogance

Well, when you live with all that guilt, it probably can lead to more mental instability.  Liberals need to lighten up a little bit or develop the stone cold cruel indifference that conservatives have.