Switzerland votes to ban Muslim minarets

This is a weird story. In Switzerland they are voting on wheather to specificly ban the building of minarets in their country. Minarets are towers assoicated with islamic mosques. The folks supporting the ban say allowing them would be a sign of the Islamisation of Switzerland. There are currently all ... four minarets in Switzerland.

Ban an arecteicual feature of just a single religion's house of worship seems, way creepy and wrong.

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Update: The ban passed.

I think a lot of folks don't realize just how great they have it here.

That's nice. I don't live in Switzerland. All this opposition to Islam wont do any good for them though.

Might as well ban Cross on top of Christian churches while they are at it then?

Oh nvm I see someone in the article mentioned what I said.

Wow, I didn't expect that coming from Switzerland of all places. They're pretty liberal over there.

It depends on the reasoning behind it, There is always a view that because something is religion based that it should be immune to opposition and scrutiny and anyone who opposes it is seen as racist or intolerant.

Wow, I didn't expect that coming from Switzerland of all places. They're pretty liberal over there.

gameguy6700

That's pretty ridiculous. I don't see how people can care so much about these sorts of things. -Sun_Tzu-

Meh, don't see what's the big deal. How would you feel if Jehovah witnesses started building monuments in your neighborhood.lm2f

Thats stupid. It isint an influence, it's just a structure for their religion..

[QUOTE="lm2f"]Meh, don't see what's the big deal. How would you feel if Jehovah witnesses started building monuments in your neighborhood.duxup

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]That's pretty ridiculous. I don't see how people can care so much about these sorts of things. Democratik

That's Europe for you.

[QUOTE="Democratik"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]That's pretty ridiculous. I don't see how people can care so much about these sorts of things. Mochyc

I don't what's more absurd; the fact that this bill exists or the fact that people support it.

Excellent idea. If people feel the need to practise that religion in Europe, let them do it in buildings that don't stick out. The only thing where such buildings belong are in the Efteling (google it).

Excellent idea. If people feel the need to practise that religion in Europe, let them do it in buildings that don't stick out.

DraugenCP

"Buildings that don't stick out"? First of all, since when is a continent a fashion statement, and second of all, have you even been to Europe?

I think a lot of folks don't realize just how great they have it here.

Pirate700

Happens here too, ya know. When they wanted to build a mosque in my neighborhood people were opposing the idea and trying to get them to build a more nondescript building, and not too far away they actually did make them do that. Anyways, I don't think it's a good idea, hopefully it doesn't pass.

Excellent idea. If people feel the need to practise that religion in Europe, let them do it in buildings that don't stick out. The only thing where such buildings belong are in the Efteling (google it).

DraugenCP

That's Europe for you.

RiseAgainst12

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

That's Europe for you.

MetalGear_Ninty

Well Europe is admittedly more secular and I think in most cases that's a good thing, but I think this is one example of how secularism can go too far.

[QUOTE="lm2f"]Meh, don't see what's the big deal. How would you feel if Jehovah witnesses started building monuments in your neighborhood.duxup

"Buildings that don't stick out"? First of all, since when is a continent a fashion statement ,and second of all, have you even been to Europe?Theokhoth

It isn't about fashion, but about an alien culture that tries to show its impending domination through the construction of intimidating buildings, financed by rich Arab oil magnats

Have I been to Europe? I live there, genius.

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

Excellent idea. If people feel the need to practise that religion in Europe, let them do it in buildings that don't stick out. The only thing where such buildings belong are in the Efteling (google it).

duxup

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

That's Europe for you.

MetalGear_Ninty

And what is wrong with the islamisation of Switzerland? Is it taking away rights from the citizens? Is it harming citizens? Is it dangerous? I doubt it, it's a religion like any other. In a country with supposed freedom of religion, there shouldn't even be a discussion about this. It's deplorable, all religions should be treated equally. So unless they ban the building of old school churches and sinagogues, I think the person who proposed this bill and the people voting for it are all idiots. Mochyc

[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

Excellent idea. If people feel the need to practise that religion in Europe, let them do it in buildings that don't stick out. The only thing where such buildings belong are in the Efteling (google it).

clyde46

I totally support them! Like they remove the crests of the churches in Turkey!

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]"Buildings that don't stick out"? First of all, since when is a continent a fashion statement ,DraugenCP

It isn't about fashion, but about an alien culture that tries to show its impending domination through the construction of intimidating buildings, financed by rich Arab oil magnats

Have I been to Europe? I live there, genius.

Intimidating to whom? If they own the property then why can't they construct whatever they want, within the regular restrictions and protocols?

Then you should know that "buildings that don't stick out" are everywhere.

[QUOTE="Mochyc"]And what is wrong with the islamisation of Switzerland? Is it taking away rights from the citizens? Is it harming citizens? Is it dangerous? I doubt it, it's a religion like any other. In a country with supposed freedom of religion, there shouldn't even be a discussion about this. It's deplorable, all religions should be treated equally. So unless they ban the building of old school churches and sinagogues, I think the person who proposed this bill and the people voting for it are all idiots. Democratik

Intimidating to whom? If they own the property then why can't they construct whatever they want, within the regular restrictions and protocols?Theokhoth

Intimidating to the indigenous population. Try living next to a mosque and you'll know what I mean.

I think that Switzerland got a bit scared. If I remeber correctly it's has now the 3rd biggest Muslim community in Europe. Swiss government IMO wants to avoid imigrants uproar like the last one in France.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]"Buildings that don't stick out"? First of all, since when is a continent a fashion statement ,DraugenCP

It isn't about fashion, but about an alien culture that tries to show its impending domination through the construction of intimidating buildings, financed by rich Arab oil magnats

Have I been to Europe? I live there, genius.

Fail. Not only are minarets part of a religious practice (and shouldn't be limited aside from safety standards), but they are architecturally quite attractive.

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"][QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

That's Europe for you.

Well Europe is admittedly more secular and I think in most cases that's a good thing, but I think this is one example of how secularism can go too far.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]"Buildings that don't stick out"? First of all, since when is a continent a fashion statement ,and second of all, have you even been to Europe?DraugenCP

It isn't about fashion, but about an alien culture that tries to show its impending domination through the construction of intimidating buildings, financed by rich Arab oil magnats

Have I been to Europe? I live there, genius.

You do realize that the only reason Christianity is as widespread as it is today is because they imposed it on other cultures, right? Technically our culture is alien just about anywhere, as it's really an adopted culture that's been changed dramatically from the culture it was adopted from. At any rate, they're not trying to show domination, I don't know where you would get that, they just want to keep a part of their original culture while adapting into a new culture.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Intimidating to whom? If they own the property then why can't they construct whatever they want, within the regular restrictions and protocols?DraugenCP

Intimidating to the indigenous population. Try living next to a mosque and you'll know what I mean.

I've attended congregations at mosques. There's nothing intimidating about them, except to ignorant/insecure people with a problem with the culture itself.

[QUOTE="Mochyc"]And what is wrong with the islamisation of Switzerland? Is it taking away rights from the citizens? Is it harming citizens? Is it dangerous? I doubt it, it's a religion like any other. In a country with supposed freedom of religion, there shouldn't even be a discussion about this. It's deplorable, all religions should be treated equally. So unless they ban the building of old school churches and sinagogues, I think the person who proposed this bill and the people voting for it are all idiots. Democratik

Excellent idea. If people feel the need to practise that religion in Europe, let them do it in buildings that don't stick out. The only thing where such buildings belong are in the Efteling (google it).

DraugenCP

not to start a religious debate, but art and architecture are (imo) two of the only things good that religion has brought to the world. Sistine Chapel...The Last Supper...St. Peter's

I say let them build what they want. To discriminate solely out of religion is wrong.

[QUOTE="Democratik"][QUOTE="Mochyc"]And what is wrong with the islamisation of Switzerland? Is it taking away rights from the citizens? Is it harming citizens? Is it dangerous? I doubt it, it's a religion like any other. In a country with supposed freedom of religion, there shouldn't even be a discussion about this. It's deplorable, all religions should be treated equally. So unless they ban the building of old school churches and sinagogues, I think the person who proposed this bill and the people voting for it are all idiots. duxup