Syria White Helmets the new al Qaeda? Aleppo being indiscriminately bombed by "moderate rebels"

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#1  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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Some are probably familiar of the group White Helmets, the "white knights" against the Assad regime with anti-Assad headlines reaching the west. http://www.wsj.com/articles/white-helmets-are-white-knights-for-desperate-syrians-1462146569

Apparently they're a funded group to spread propaganda that are in cahoots with al Nusra. Footage evidence shows White Helmets yelling allahu akbar and celebrating with al Nusra.

Al Nusra with barrel bombs

Warning: Graphic footage of moderate rebels shelling civilians with barrel bombs. https://youtu.be/OUYBWsua2MU

Who is the bad guy here? Are we all the bad guys for letting a civil war be taken advantage like this for the interest of profiteers?

Edit: Looks like the media folded on their lies. John Kerry condemns "moderate rebels" for Aleppo attack http://www.reuters.com/video/2016/05/03/uss-kerry-condemns-rebel-attack-on-alepp?videoId=368345219

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"Who is the bad guy here? Are we all the bad guys for letting a civil war be taken advantage like this for the interest of profiteers?"

I really don't get this mentality. Whose responsiblity is it to police the world? What about all the countries that are close to Syria? They won't clean up their own backyard...

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#3  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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@SOedipus said:

"Who is the bad guy here? Are we all the bad guys for letting a civil war be taken advantage like this for the interest of profiteers?"

I really don't get this mentality. Whose responsiblity is it to police the world? What about all the countries that are close to Syria? They won't clean up their own backyard...

UK, France, Qatar, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Israel all want a Syrian regime change, and by that they've armed and funded terrorists, along with using the media for propaganda to have the public be for regime change without really knowing what is going on with misinformation. It's in the best interests of these counties to have destabilize Syria by all means necessary while we support the actions of the elite.

I'm not asking for a government to the police the world. It's clear policing the world always translate to geopolitical and economic interest for the few. Just look at Africa for example. Not much policing going around there, because oil is not present.

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@SOedipus said:

I really don't get this mentality. Whose responsiblity is it to police the world? What about all the countries that are close to Syria? They won't clean up their own backyard...

NATO countries haven't simply neglected to police Syria.

They've deliberately sought to perpetuate the war in Syria by providing material support for the terrorists, both directly (through NATO member state Turkey) and indirectly (by "laundering" aid through Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc.).

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Freedom is never the bad guy. Down with Dictators.

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While the West has huge sins to atone for in the Middle East (or the entire world), nothing good will come from people who have 21st century weapons (or 20th) and still believe the ravings of a 6th century warlord.

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@Stesilaus said:
@SOedipus said:

I really don't get this mentality. Whose responsiblity is it to police the world? What about all the countries that are close to Syria? They won't clean up their own backyard...

NATO countries haven't simply neglected to police Syria.

They've deliberately sought to perpetuate the war in Syria by providing material support for the terrorists, both directly (through NATO member state Turkey) and indirectly (by "laundering" aid through Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc.).

This.

The middle east will always be violent.

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@still_vicious said:
@Stesilaus said:
@SOedipus said:

I really don't get this mentality. Whose responsiblity is it to police the world? What about all the countries that are close to Syria? They won't clean up their own backyard...

NATO countries haven't simply neglected to police Syria.

They've deliberately sought to perpetuate the war in Syria by providing material support for the terrorists, both directly (through NATO member state Turkey) and indirectly (by "laundering" aid through Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc.).

This.

The middle east will always be violent.

Thats simply because the West should have never sided with the Sunni Gulf Monarch Tyrants, thats a reason why the modern times have being so violent.

America and Europe should really mind its own business.

If we stop bombing their lands and stop with these nonsense regime changes they will stop coming into the west.

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@iandizion713 said:

Freedom is never the bad guy. Down with Dictators.

So Freedom exists in Saudi Arabia? the same Saudi Arabia that funds and wants Assad gone? along with other tyrant gulf countries haven't we learned anything from Iraq, Libya yet? the difference between American little saint moderate rebels is, Assad has kept order and kept minorities alive, rebels? have not.

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#10 Still_Vicious
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@CommandoAgent said:
@still_vicious said:
@Stesilaus said:
@SOedipus said:

I really don't get this mentality. Whose responsiblity is it to police the world? What about all the countries that are close to Syria? They won't clean up their own backyard...

NATO countries haven't simply neglected to police Syria.

They've deliberately sought to perpetuate the war in Syria by providing material support for the terrorists, both directly (through NATO member state Turkey) and indirectly (by "laundering" aid through Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc.).

This.

The middle east will always be violent.

Thats simply because the West should have never sided with the Sunni Gulf Monarch Tyrants, thats a reason why the modern times have being so violent.

America and Europe should really mind its own business.

If we stop bombing their lands and stop with these nonsense regime changes they will stop coming into the west.

Meh, can't blaim them. Relations could have been done better handled, but let's be honest, you'd be upset if gas was twice what it is now.

I like oil.

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#11  Edited By iandizion713
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@CommandoAgent said:
@iandizion713 said:

Freedom is never the bad guy. Down with Dictators.

So Freedom exists in Saudi Arabia? the same Saudi Arabia that funds and wants Assad gone? along with other tyrant gulf countries haven't we learned anything from Iraq, Libya yet? the difference between American little saint moderate rebels is, Assad has kept order and kept minorities alive, rebels? have not.

No, the difference is Assad is a wanted criminal for the murder of thousands of citizens. Saudi Arabia on the other hand continues to make progress. Iraq and Libya continue to fight for freedom and have also have made a lot of progress. Of course Assad has kept order, hes a Dictator, him and all his little Dictator buddies continue to imprison free thinkers for their thoughts alone.

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It's sad to see that places like Iraq and Syria, once cradles of civilization, are just war torn and crapped on by the world. And now the US and Russia are playing a tug of war with the country while manipulating their pawns on the ground.

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Looks like the media folded on their lies. John Kerry condemns "moderate rebels" for Aleppo attack http://www.reuters.com/video/2016/05/03/uss-kerry-condemns-rebel-attack-on-alepp?videoId=368345219

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#14 Stesilaus
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@Gaming-Planet: Thank you for all the compelling information in this thread. Wouldn't it be great if incontrovertible proof of the falsity of the Western media's Syrian narrative could actually change people's opinions, eh? But no, I expect that the majority will continue to believe that Assad is the villain and that NATO is sponsoring some sort of noble, democratic uprising in Syria.