Tell me you wouldnt have knocked out these girls

A guy and his pregnant girlfriend get attacked by a pack of thugs

http://bcove.me/v12hjggg

Its a sad day that guys have been conditioned so much to not defend themselves against females. Look at how they taunt him and laugh as they kick, slap and grab him.

I find women a lot more intimidating than men, honestly.

I'd have beat the **** out of the chick that kicked him in the faceberserker2389

Kids do stupid s***. But yes, the guy should have laid them out. I'm a strong believer in defending yourself if you are being attacked, woman or not.

I would've destroyed them the moment they laid a hand on my girlfriend. NOBODY TOUCHES MY HAND!!! th3warr1or

Yeah I saw two that would have got laid out. Things change once they ganged up on the pregnant gf. I wonder how that was resolved. Like if he did even take the phone or where they just acting crazy.

if you listen to the audio he stole one of tte girls phones and then the black girl was trying to look for said phone and the white girl side don't touch my ish and then the black girls proceeded to attack her because that is how solve disputes in their culture.

Don't call me racist. every black person i know fights more then any single one white person i know and thats all i ever see is black fighting or trying to fight for no reason.

p.s. i am not trying to start a flame war and please don't call me racist, this has just been my experience with impoverished african american youths.

A woman can say whatever she wants to me, and I will hold myself back. I am a big guy, it wouldnt be fair to retaliate against a womansolely over hurt feelings.

But the second you attack me, youre not a woman...youre a human, just like me, and it is on lol. Both my mom and dad raised me right, but they also both said that if I were ever attacked, it doesnt matter who it is, you defend yourself and get help as soon as possible. I think that was and is good advice.

I don't think I'd ever hit a woman, though, I'd just drop her to the ground with a solid shove and keep her there.

As far as the video is concerned, well, its not really a big deal except for the fact it perpetuates a really bad stereotype of the black female.

if you listen to the audio he stole one of tte girls phones and then the black girl was trying to look for said phone and the white girl side don't touch my ish and then the black girls proceeded to attack her because that is how solve disputes in their culture.

Don't call me racist. every black person i know fights more then any single one white person i know and thats all i ever see is black fighting or trying to fight for no reason.

p.s. i am not trying to start a flame war and please don't call me racist, this has just been my experience with impoverished african american youths.

Jph625

that is how solve disputes in their culture.

Don't call me racist. every black person i know fights more then any single one white person i know and thats all i ever see is black fighting or trying to fight for no reason.

p.s. i am not trying to start a flame war and please don't call me racist, this has just been my experience with impoverished african american youths.

Jph625

How the hell can you not react when they attack your pregnant girlfriend and then kick you in the face multiple times? I would of went f'ing insane.

p.s. i am not trying to start a flame war and please don't call me racist, this has just been my experience with impoverished african american youths.

Jph625

I've worked with a lot of black youths, and pigmentation has nothing to do with how violent a person is. While it is unfortunate, here in my town, a lot of black families are violent and live in violent areas, so their kids are susceptible to it at a very young age. I've worked with many violent white youths as well, so it's obviously not exclusive to black kids. It sounds like you're singling out black kids based off the color of their skin, and that makes you a racist. Sorry.

if you listen to the audio he stole one of tte girls phones and then the black girl was trying to look for said phone and the white girl side don't touch my ish and then the black girls proceeded to attack her because that is how solve disputes in their culture.

Don't call me racist. every black person i know fights more then any single one white person i know and thats all i ever see is black fighting or trying to fight for no reason.

p.s. i am not trying to start a flame war and please don't call me racist, this has just been my experience with impoverished african american youths.

Jph625

I used to work construction on section 8 housing in Richmond, CA, and I do my best not to stereotype but, dammit...there are just some parts of the country where the stereotype rings true and is constantly upheld by the very people labeled by the stereotype.

So no, I dont find you racist. In fact, racism (selective racism) is a proper defense mechanism is some situations. Sure, you might call me racist for locking my doors when I see a black man cross the street, but that is only because I have witnessed five car jackings in that neighborhood. Would I lock my door in my hometown if I saw a black man cross the street? Of course not, but I am going to do it in a bad part of town.

I used to work construction on section 8 housing in Richmond, CA, and I do my best not to stereotype but, dammit...there are just some parts of the country where the stereotype rings true and is constantly upheld by the very people labeled by the stereotype.

So no, I dont find you racist. In fact, racism (selective racism) is a proper defense mechanism is some situations. Sure, you might call me racist for locking my doors when I see a black man cross the street, but that is only because I have witnessed five car jackings in that neighborhood. Would I lock my door in my hometown if I saw a black man cross the street? Of course not, but I am going to do it in a bad part of town.

mrbojangles25

It rings true depending on the environment that children are raised in and not the color of their skin. If you're only afraid of black people stealing your car, then you might have a problem.

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

I used to work construction on section 8 housing in Richmond, CA, and I do my best not to stereotype but, dammit...there are just some parts of the country where the stereotype rings true and is constantly upheld by the very people labeled by the stereotype.

So no, I dont find you racist. In fact, racism (selective racism) is a proper defense mechanism is some situations. Sure, you might call me racist for locking my doors when I see a black man cross the street, but that is only because I have witnessed five car jackings in that neighborhood. Would I lock my door in my hometown if I saw a black man cross the street? Of course not, but I am going to do it in a bad part of town.

LikeHaterade

It rings true depending on the environment that children are raised in and not the color of their skin. If you're only afraid of black people stealing your car, then you might have a problem.

when a white person steals my car or I witness a white person stealing a car, I will be wary of white people as well.

But I dont think it racist to alter one's behavior based on their experiences.

Racism is never justified. Not ever. Not even if you're a little racist. You're generalizing every black person as potential perpetrators and that simply isn't fair.

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

I used to work construction on section 8 housing in Richmond, CA, and I do my best not to stereotype but, dammit...there are just some parts of the country where the stereotype rings true and is constantly upheld by the very people labeled by the stereotype.

So no, I dont find you racist. In fact, racism (selective racism) is a proper defense mechanism is some situations. Sure, you might call me racist for locking my doors when I see a black man cross the street, but that is only because I have witnessed five car jackings in that neighborhood. Would I lock my door in my hometown if I saw a black man cross the street? Of course not, but I am going to do it in a bad part of town.

LikeHaterade

It rings true depending on the environment that children are raised in and not the color of their skin. If you're only afraid of black people stealing your car, then you might have a problem.

I agree with this, simply because I didnt see a lot of white people in the part of Richmond I was working in.

when a white person steals my car or I witness a white person stealing a car, I will be wary of white people as well.

But I dont think it racist to alter one's behavior based on their experiences.

mrbojangles25

You need proof that white people don't commit crimes? Turn on the local news. It's ignorant to alter your behavior based on experiences due to race.

Racism is never justified. Not ever. Not even if you're a little racist. You're generalizing every black person as potential perpetrators and that simply isn't fair.

LikeHaterade

yeah I deleted that post, I should have read it before I hit submit lol

I agree, racism is never justifed, but as I said above, you can't blame one for simply acting in a manner that suits their past experiences.

Again, locking one's door in a bad part of town is appropriate

Assuming the next black person you meet is a car theif is not, nor is lumping him in with a stereotype.

Sorry if what I said offended you or anyone else, it was not intended, I am simply playing devil's advocate and speaking from experience

yeah I deleted that post, I should have read it before I hit submit lol

I agree, racism is never justifed, but as I said above, you can't blame one for simply acting in a manner that suits their past experiences.

Again, locking one's door in a bad part of town is appropriate

Assuming the next black person you meet is a car theif is not, nor is lumping him in with a stereotype.

Sorry if what I said offended you or anyone else, it was not intended, I am simply playing devil's advocate and speaking from experience

mrbojangles25

I can and I will blame someone on the subject of race. There is no empirical evidence to suggest that blacks commit crimes due to the color of their skin. If and when whites are raised in the same environments as many young black children in the ghetto, you would more than likely see the same behavior.

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

when a white person steals my car or I witness a white person stealing a car, I will be wary of white people as well.

But I dont think it racist to alter one's behavior based on their experiences.

LikeHaterade

You need proof that white people don't commit crimes? Turn on the local news. It's ignorant to alter your behavior based on experiences due to race.

now youre putting words in my mouth.

Watching the news and experiencing/witnessing a crime first hand are two entirely different things. Of course I acknowledge that white people commit crimes, I never said otherwise, or anything about that.

However, and this is a big however, the only crime I have witnessed have been performed by black people.

I apologize if I let my first-hand experiences influence me more than some report about a white guy robbing some old lady 90 miles away :P

Racism is never justified. Not ever. Not even if you're a little racist. You're generalizing every black person as potential perpetrators and that simply isn't fair.

LikeHaterade

It has nothing to do with the color of their skin and everything to do with culture and environment. Calling them racist is simply wrong. An actual African that immigrates here from Africa are going to be a lot different then black people who grew up here. The ones I've talked to complain about certain African-Americans all the time. Are they racist for complaining about certain black Americans? Unless they hate themselves...I don't think so.

I'm still confused as to exactly what happened. :|

Racism is never justified. Not ever. Not even if you're a little racist. You're generalizing every black person as potential perpetrators and that simply isn't fair.

LikeHaterade

It has nothing to do with the color of their skin and everything to do with culture and environment. Calling them racist is simply wrong. An actual African that immigrates here from Africa are going to be a lot different then black people who grew up here. The ones I've talked to complain about certain African-Americans all the time. Are they racist for complaining about certain black Americans? Unless they hate themselves...I don't think so.

Like I said, culture and environment, not skin color.

Have all five been charged? Only two of them deserve it, the other two were trying to hold the wild ones back, and one was just trying to talk. Needless to say, I would have punched both of the girls out if they smacked my girlfriend in the face like that.

I would have definately beat the snot out of those girls. nobody harms my girlfriend, especially if she was pregnant, and walks away with an intact skull!

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

yeah I deleted that post, I should have read it before I hit submit lol

I agree, racism is never justifed, but as I said above, you can't blame one for simply acting in a manner that suits their past experiences.

Again, locking one's door in a bad part of town is appropriate

Assuming the next black person you meet is a car theif is not, nor is lumping him in with a stereotype.

Sorry if what I said offended you or anyone else, it was not intended, I am simply playing devil's advocate and speaking from experience

LikeHaterade

I can and I will blame someone on the subject of race. There is no empirical evidence to suggest that blacks commit crimes due to the color of their skin. If and when whites are raised in the same environments as many young black children in the ghetto, you would more than likely see the same behavior.

youre not hearing me.

I am not arguing statistics, reports, or anything like that. I am simply arguing based on first-hand experience, and the experiences of people I worked with (one of whom was a black man from Richmond, CA).

And I already said I agree with the "product of one's environment" hypothesis; yes, if white kids were raised in the same environment, they'd be as bad as the black kids that are raised in that environment.

But white kids are not raised in that environment. So we have to deal with the reality that black kids are, and as a result, a lot of them turn out bad.

Since when is dealing with the truth, one's personal experiences, and reality a racist act?

I can't hit a woman.

now youre putting words in my mouth.

Watching the news and experiencing/witnessing a crime first hand are two entirely different things. Of course I acknowledge that white people commit crimes, I never said otherwise, or anything about that.

However, and this is a big however, the only crime I have witnessed have been performed by black people.

I apologize if I let my first-hand experiences influence me more than some report about a white guy robbing some old lady 90 miles away :P

mrbojangles25

How did I put words in your mouth? In terms of crime and racism in this day and age, I disagree. If you acknowledge that whites are just as much capable of committing crimes as blacks, then where is the logic in strictly keeping a close eye on black people alone?

I can't hit a woman.

entropyecho

why? do you not have arms?

Not only is my girlfriend of over two years black, but so are many of my friends. I play basketball for my highschool and i'm great friends with all the black guys on the team and, in my experience, 90% of the black guys i know have instigated and been in fights multiple times since i've known them, whereas only 10-20% of the white guys i know have.

Call me racist for studying my surroundings and having an opinion because of that, or maybe you shouldn't be so quick to call someone racist for no reason. Seems like you're a bigot towards racists. chew on that :O

I am well aware that there are millions of intelligent, nice, all around good black people just like there are of any race, however, more often then not people from the "ghetto" are ignorant and angry and more often then not the people that reside in said "ghettos" are minorities (not just blacks).

I am not oblivious, however, to the fact that they probably wouldn't be there if americans hadn't been so racist throughout our history and that they can do nothing to get away from there horrible surroundings and the dangerous environment that makes them the way that they are; but i will not retract the statement i made that the majority of blacks that i know will fight, or try to, at the drop of the hat.

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

Racism is never justified. Not ever. Not even if you're a little racist. You're generalizing every black person as potential perpetrators and that simply isn't fair.

SpartanMSU

It has nothing to do with the color of their skin and everything to do with culture and environment. Calling them racist is simply wrong. An actual African that immigrates here from Africa are going to be a lot different then black people who grew up here. The ones I've talked to complain about certain African-Americans all the time. Are they racist for complaining about certain black Americans? Unless they hate themselves...I don't think so.

Like I said, culture and environment, not skin color.

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

Racism is never justified. Not ever. Not even if you're a little racist. You're generalizing every black person as potential perpetrators and that simply isn't fair.

SpartanMSU

It has nothing to do with the color of their skin and everything to do with culture and environment. Calling them racist is simply wrong. An actual African that immigrates here from Africa are going to be a lot different then black people who grew up here. The ones I've talked to complain about certain African-Americans all the time. Are they racist for complaining about certain black Americans? Unless they hate themselves...I don't think so.

youre not hearing me.

I am not arguing statistics, reports, or anything like that. I am simply arguing based on first-hand experience, and the experiences of people I worked with (one of whom was a black man from Richmond, CA).

And I already said I agree with the "product of one's environment" hypothesis; yes, if white kids were raised in the same environment, they'd be as bad as the black kids that are raised in that environment.

But white kids are not raised in that environment. So we have to deal with the reality that black kids are, and as a result, a lot of them turn out bad.

Since when is dealing with the truth, one's personal experiences, and reality a racist act?

mrbojangles25

You told me that you cannot blame someone for a certain view based on their past experiences, and I'm saying that on the subject of race, you very well can. And there are many, many white children that are raised around the same environment, or worse. I've worked with many violent white children that have committed crimes. I encourage you to do some research on this matter.

[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

I can't hit a woman.

mrbojangles25

why? do you not have arms?

I have two functioning arms, but I just can't do it.

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

now youre putting words in my mouth.

Watching the news and experiencing/witnessing a crime first hand are two entirely different things. Of course I acknowledge that white people commit crimes, I never said otherwise, or anything about that.

However, and this is a big however, the only crime I have witnessed have been performed by black people.

I apologize if I let my first-hand experiences influence me more than some report about a white guy robbing some old lady 90 miles away :P

LikeHaterade

How did I put words in your mouth? In terms of crime and racism in this day and age, I disagree. If you acknowledge that whites are just as much capable of committing crimes as blacks, then where is the logic in strictly keeping a close eye on black people alone?

capability and execution are two entirely different things. Every single human being on earth is as capable of commiting a crime as anyone, the question is whether or not they do.

In my experience, black people commit far more crimes than white people.

Again, let me make myself clear, I am not steroetyping or generalizing. I clearly said "in my experience". I am tired of you not hearing what I am saying, and interpreting it wrong.

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

Racism is never justified. Not ever. Not even if you're a little racist. You're generalizing every black person as potential perpetrators and that simply isn't fair.

frostybanana

It has nothing to do with the color of their skin and everything to do with culture and environment. Calling them racist is simply wrong. An actual African that immigrates here from Africa are going to be a lot different then black people who grew up here. The ones I've talked to complain about certain African-Americans all the time. Are they racist for complaining about certain black Americans? Unless they hate themselves...I don't think so.

Like I said, culture and environment, not skin color.

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[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

Racism is never justified. Not ever. Not even if you're a little racist. You're generalizing every black person as potential perpetrators and that simply isn't fair.

clayron

It has nothing to do with the color of their skin and everything to do with culture and environment. Calling them racist is simply wrong. An actual African that immigrates here from Africa are going to be a lot different then black people who grew up here. The ones I've talked to complain about certain African-Americans all the time. Are they racist for complaining about certain black Americans? Unless they hate themselves...I don't think so.

Are you serious? No, really, are you?

capability and execution are two entirely different things. Every single human being on earth is as capable of commiting a crime as anyone, the question is whether or not they do.

In my experience, black people commit far more crimes than white people.

Again, let me make myself clear, I am not steroetyping or generalizing. I clearly said "in my experience". I am tired of you not hearing what I am saying, and interpreting it wrong.

mrbojangles25

Yes you are. You already told me that you keep a close eye strictly on black people crossing your area. That is generalizing. I heard what you said.

And white people do commit crimes. And before you retort with something along the lines of, "Well not in my experience!"; that part of the discussion was pertaining to whites as a whole.

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

youre not hearing me.

I am not arguing statistics, reports, or anything like that. I am simply arguing based on first-hand experience, and the experiences of people I worked with (one of whom was a black man from Richmond, CA).

And I already said I agree with the "product of one's environment" hypothesis; yes, if white kids were raised in the same environment, they'd be as bad as the black kids that are raised in that environment.

But white kids are not raised in that environment. So we have to deal with the reality that black kids are, and as a result, a lot of them turn out bad.

Since when is dealing with the truth, one's personal experiences, and reality a racist act?

LikeHaterade

You told me that you cannot blame someone for a certain view based on their past experiences, and I'm saying that on the subject of race, you very well can. And there are many, many white children that are raised around the same environment, or worse. I've worked with many violent white children that have committed crimes. I encourage you to do some research on this matter.

I think it is best we agree to disagree.

Overall, as a whole, I agree with you. But you seem intent on keeping this argument universal, whereasI simply presented my small, personal, and localized experiences of race and crime.

You argue statistics and studies and theories, I argue what has actually happened in front of my very eyes. Both our arguments have merit, I feel, but there is obviously no convincing you.

Anyway, racism is bad, I am not racist, simply a realist.

[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

It has nothing to do with the color of their skin and everything to do with culture and environment. Calling them racist is simply wrong. An actual African that immigrates here from Africa are going to be a lot different then black people who grew up here. The ones I've talked to complain about certain African-Americans all the time. Are they racist for complaining about certain black Americans? Unless they hate themselves...I don't think so.

SpartanMSU

Are you serious? No, really, are you?

At my highscool we have over 600 african refugees and of those 600 about 50, at the most, even attend classes or do anything other then mill about the school and harass females and fight with each other. thats my only experience with real african americans.