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#101 LikeHaterade
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No, you did not.

Did you look back at bojangles first post and see you were completely wrong about your ASSUMPTION about what he said?

If you want to avoid my argument and just close your eyes to reality, go ahead, be ignorant. As long as it fits your ideals.

SpartanMSU

That he keeps a closer eye on "black" people? That was my claim, and he didn't deny it. He defended it. You were on a tangent about the "area" but that was pointless because that wasn't part of the claim that I was making.

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#102 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="Jph625"]

African American men are disproportionately represented

in the criminal justice system. The percentage of young

African American men in prison is nearly three times that

of Hispanic men and nearly seven times that of white men

(Fig. 4). While African American men represent 14% of the

population of young men in the U.S., they represent over

40% of the prison population.

fact. i said that i feel like black people are more violent and prone to do things like this then whites and get called a racist but in reality they are 7X more likely. Basically. obviously this is a very weak argument but you can't argue with the actual statistics. one out of every ten black men aged 15-29 will go to prison.theycallmeRP

Yeah these were the type of statistics I was expecting. These statistics might have many factors. How much of it is true to racial profiling? What about the idea that blacks get harsher prison sentences on average for the same crime a white person commits? Maybe it's the environment of where they live? Maybe it's the shrinking middle class and there are more poorer people then ever? Maybe it's the high unemployment rates of this country? I can go on and on.

But the only conclusion you drew was the bolded. Your basic idea is blacks are violent. As I said, I am black. According to you, because of that I am supposed to be more violent then a white person just because of my skin. I have been in one fight in my life when I was in 4th grade. I do not appreciate someone saying ignorant comments like I am more prone to violence. I don't like to throw the word racist around and I think people use it for too many things. I don't think your racist. Your view points are open to scrutiny though, and as I said before, share your views with some of the black friends you have and they might not view as such as nice guy and be cool with you.

The irony is if he shares his viewpoints with his black friends, and they attack him, that would prove his point.
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#103 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

No, you did not.

Did you look back at bojangles first post and see you were completely wrong about your ASSUMPTION about what he said?

If you want to avoid my argument and just close your eyes to reality, go ahead, be ignorant. As long as it fits your ideals.

LikeHaterade

That he keeps a closer eye on "black" people? That was my claim, and he didn't deny it. He defended it. You were on a tangent about the "area" but that was pointless because that wasn't part of the claim that I was making.

He's right. If the majority of crimes commited are by black people, it would make perfect sense to be wary of black people.
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#104 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

No, you did not.

Did you look back at bojangles first post and see you were completely wrong about your ASSUMPTION about what he said?

If you want to avoid my argument and just close your eyes to reality, go ahead, be ignorant. As long as it fits your ideals.

l4dak47

That he keeps a closer eye on "black" people? That was my claim, and he didn't deny it. He defended it. You were on a tangent about the "area" but that was pointless because that wasn't part of the claim that I was making.

He's right. If the majority of crimes commited are by black people, it would make perfect sense to be wary of black people.

and again, I specifically stated in specific areas. This has nothing to do with black people, and everything to do with black people in certain areas.

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#105 LikeHaterade
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He's right. If the majority of crimes commited are by black people, it would make perfect sense to be wary of black people. l4dak47

No he isn't. The majority of black people do not commit crimes. It would make perfect sense to not be wary of black people.

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#106 jeremiah06
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[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="clayron"] How exactly would an African that immigrates be different from a black person that grew up in America?clayron

Are you serious? No, really, are you?

I'm very serious. How would they be different?

OK I'm black and I think you're just trying to start something... I'm nowhere near the same as a African guy who immigrates here. I have proof of it too. There was one who came to my HS in foreign exchange he was drastically different from EVERYONE else in my all black HS(the first HS I went to). The black people in my second HS(highly diverse) were different that those in my first HS.
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#107 PlaWeird
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Absolutely! *RETALIATES*
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#108 theycallmeRP
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[QUOTE="theycallmeRP"]

[QUOTE="Jph625"]

African American men are disproportionately represented

in the criminal justice system. The percentage of young

African American men in prison is nearly three times that

of Hispanic men and nearly seven times that of white men

(Fig. 4). While African American men represent 14% of the

population of young men in the U.S., they represent over

40% of the prison population.

fact. i said that i feel like black people are more violent and prone to do things like this then whites and get called a racist but in reality they are 7X more likely. Basically. obviously this is a very weak argument but you can't argue with the actual statistics. one out of every ten black men aged 15-29 will go to prison.l4dak47

Yeah these were the type of statistics I was expecting. These statistics might have many factors. How much of it is true to racial profiling? What about the idea that blacks get harsher prison sentences on average for the same crime a white person commits? Maybe it's the environment of where they live? Maybe it's the shrinking middle class and there are more poorer people then ever? Maybe it's the high unemployment rates of this country? I can go on and on.

But the only conclusion you drew was the bolded. Your basic idea is blacks are violent. As I said, I am black. According to you, because of that I am supposed to be more violent then a white person just because of my skin. I have been in one fight in my life when I was in 4th grade. I do not appreciate someone saying ignorant comments like I am more prone to violence. I don't like to throw the word racist around and I think people use it for too many things. I don't think your racist. Your view points are open to scrutiny though, and as I said before, share your views with some of the black friends you have and they might not view as such as nice guy and be cool with you.

The irony is if he shares his viewpoints with his black friends, and if they attack him, that would prove his point.

That would be ironic to someone that automatically thinks that they would attack him. I don't share in that thought. I've dealt with racism before and dealing with it with violence is stupid. If I had a friend share with me thoughts like that, they wouldn't be my friend anymore and move on. I don't need to attack anyone.

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#109 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

No, you did not.

Did you look back at bojangles first post and see you were completely wrong about your ASSUMPTION about what he said?

If you want to avoid my argument and just close your eyes to reality, go ahead, be ignorant. As long as it fits your ideals.

LikeHaterade

That he keeps a closer eye on "black" people? That was my claim, and he didn't deny it. He defended it. You were on a tangent about the "area" but that was pointless because that wasn't part of the claim that I was making.

No, you specifically said he would lock his doors to his house if he saw a black person walking by. He DID NOT say this. He said only in a certain AREA would he take precautions.

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#110 LikeHaterade
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and again, I specifically stated in specific areas. This has nothing to do with black people, and everything to do with black people in certain areas.

mrbojangles25

It's still the same logic as generalizing blacks as a whole, since there are blacks in said areas that do not commit crimes.

I'm seriously leaving this thread now before I explode into a fireball of rage.

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#111 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"]He's right. If the majority of crimes commited are by black people, it would make perfect sense to be wary of black people. LikeHaterade

No he isn't. The majority of black people do not commit crimes. It would make perfect sense to not be wary of black people.

If the majority of crimes are commited by black people in certain areas. Yes, it would make perfect sense to be more wary of blacks. It's, kinda, human nature to do that. Does that mean it's right? Perhaps not, but it does make sense.
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#113 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

and again, I specifically stated in specific areas. This has nothing to do with black people, and everything to do with black people in certain areas.

LikeHaterade

It's still the same logic as generalizing blacks as a whole, since there are blacks in said areas that do not commit crimes.

I'm seriously leaving this thread now before I explode into a fireball of rage.

No, it definitely is not the same logic. Nice try though.

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#114 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

No, you specifically said he would lock his doors to his house if he saw a black person walking by. He DID NOT say this. He said only in a certain AREA would he take precautions.

LikeHaterade

Let the guy with bad reading comprehension skills help you out.

Sure, you might call me racist for locking my doors when I seea black mancross the street, but that is only because I have witnessed five car jackings in that neighborhood. Would I lock my door in my hometown if I saw a black man cross the street? Of course not, but I am going to do it in a bad part of town.

mrbojangles25

I am addressing the fact that he acknowledges the man's race and taking precautions for that reason. I didn't say anything about the area. That doesn't make any difference to me, and was not part of my claim.

Yes, but bojangles DID mention area, while you completely disregarded that very important aspect of his argument.

And :lol: to the bolded. You do realize that it's only strengthening my claim about your reading comprehension, right? He meant when a black person crosses the street when he's in HIS CAR obviously, due to the part later in the sentence about the car jackings. Also, he said he doesn't live there, only works there. So based off basic logic, one would assume he doesn't have a vacation home there and would just drive there...

You'll understand it eventually, don't worry.

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#116 jeremiah06
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

That he keeps a closer eye on "black" people? That was my claim, and he didn't deny it. He defended it. You were on a tangent about the "area" but that was pointless because that wasn't part of the claim that I was making.

mrbojangles25

He's right. If the majority of crimes commited are by black people, it would make perfect sense to be wary of black people.

and again, I specifically stated in specific areas. This has nothing to do with black people, and everything to do with black people in certain areas.

I find this whole conversation hilarious... Where I live you'd be a fool NOT to have your door locked at all times. The black men in my area sell drugs party and are pretty mellow. The younger black people like to steal and sell stolen stuff. The white people in my area might go serial killer or kidnap. And thats the normal people in general. The gang activity in my area are race-less, however then only mess with the other gangs(still dangerous because of stray bullets). If I see a black guy across the street my door is already locked. If I see a white guy I don't know I'm loading my gun... That doesn't make me a racist that keeps my alive... When I visit my parents I chat with random white people all the time. So mrbojangles25 is smart and everyone disagreeing with him are just being difficult(or naive seeing as they probably wouldn't survive here)
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#117 muller39
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That guy did extremely well for not retaliating. I'm more angry at the fact that nobody else on the bus did something to help the couple.

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#118 cyborg100000
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I probably would end up hitting them in that situation, especially when you're stuck with no where to go...although with a pregnant girlfriend I'd probably hold back incase one of them has a knife.

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#119 calzeta930
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I would have most def hit those girls back in defense of myself and the girl if i was in his position.

you hit me i'll hit you back.... equality

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#120 gaming25
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] He's right. If the majority of crimes commited are by black people, it would make perfect sense to be wary of black people. jeremiah06

and again, I specifically stated in specific areas. This has nothing to do with black people, and everything to do with black people in certain areas.

I find this whole conversation hilarious... Where I live you'd be a fool NOT to have your door locked at all times. The black men in my area sell drugs party and are pretty mellow. The younger black people like to steal and sell stolen stuff. The white people in my area might go serial killer or kidnap. And thats the normal people in general. The gang activity in my area are race-less, however then only mess with the other gangs(still dangerous because of stray bullets). If I see a black guy across the street my door is already locked. If I see a white guy I don't know I'm loading my gun... That doesn't make me a racist that keeps my alive... When I visit my parents I chat with random white people all the time. So mrbojangles25 is smart and everyone disagreeing with him are just being difficult(or naive seeing as they probably wouldn't survive here)

So you wouldnt keep your doors locked just because, it is dangerous in general? You gave specific instances of when you do certain things but I doubt you actually do them that way anyway.

"The black men in my area sell drugs. The younger black people like to steal and sell stolen stuff. "

So do you assume that most black people do those things? What is the population of your community? How many black people live there, do you seriously think that most of the population would do those crimes? Or is it that most of the people who do those things tend to be of that particular race? Racial profiling (I am not saying you do that) is not only prejudice, but also uneccesary as well. If all groups are dangerous as you claim they are, then there is no need to make generalizations of them, because I doubt that you would pull a gun out on the first white person you see and tell them "stay away" because you think that might be serial killers.

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#121 Razor-Lazor
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People are too easily moved to violence these days...

:roll:

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#122 TheNewEraIcon
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I would have defended myself too, that kicking in the face stuff just pushed it WAY over the limit...

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#123 deactivated-587633796662c
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I would knock the hell out of them.
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#124 calzeta930
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I would have defended myself too, that kicking in the face stuff just pushed it WAY over the limit...

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agreed, those B****es need a thorough a** kicking
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#125 entropyecho
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People are too easily moved to violence these days...

:roll:

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What did you say?!?! :x

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#126 Razor-Lazor
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[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

[QUOTE="Razor-Lazor"]

People are too easily moved to violence these days...

:roll:

What did you say?!?! :x

*throws a Haymaker at entro*
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#127 coolbeans90
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I am a fairly restrained person, and I would have had trouble not decking a few of those girls.

And Bojangles isn't a racist. He has nothing against any person due to their racial origins.

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#128 BIG-BOSSMAN
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Your just naive or in denial of reality if you think that blacks don't commit crimes more than any other race.
Anybody in the game or from the hood in any race will tell you if there being honest that blacks shoot, rob, and fight more than anyone else.
With that being said most black people are cool, but the amount of them that are criminals is the highest of any group.
Ive seen ppl get stabbed, shot at, robbed, and beaten to pulp more times than I can remember.
In fact its been less than a weak sense I seen someone get the mess beat out of them.
Ive never witnessed a white or Latino commit any of these crimes, only blacks.
I mostly see whites an latinos selling drugs and occaisionally stealing, but I don't see them attacking people and robbing ppl like I see blacks do all the time.
Criminals in most other races just don't seem as agressive or thoughtless to me as black criminals.
Most white or Mexican criminals will stand on the corner an sell dope. If you leave him alone, they will leave you alone most of the time.
Some are dramaqueens and always on dumb s***, but not like the Black criminals.
I know cats that leave the crib just to go f*** with people and beat people for no reason. All of them are Black.

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#129 gaming25
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Your just naive or in denial of reality if you think that blacks don't commit crimes more than any other race.
Anybody in the game or from the hood in any race will tell you if there being honest that blacks shoot, rob, and fight more than anyone else.
With that being said most black people are cool, but the amount of them that are criminals is the highest of any group.
Ive seen ppl get stabbed, shot at, robbed, and beaten to pulp more times than I can remember.
In fact its been less than a weak sense I seen someone get the mess beat out of them.
Ive never witnessed a white or Latino commit any of these crimes, only blacks.
I mostly see whites an latinos selling drugs and occaisionally stealing, but I don't see them attacking people and robbing ppl like I see blacks do all the time.
Criminals in most other races just don't seem as agressive or thoughtless to me as black criminals.
Most white or Mexican criminals will stand on the corner an sell dope. If you leave him alone, they will leave you alone most of the time.
Some are dramaqueens and always on dumb s***, but not like the Black criminals.
I know cats that leave the crib just to go f*** with people and beat people for no reason. All of them are Black.

BIG-BOSSMAN

Everyone knows that blacks have higher crime rates, but then you said something that is not factual at all, and is not statistical either. I dont care what you have claimed to see, it is incorrect to say that that black people in the same conditions are a lot more hostile than other races, and that the other races are just calm. The more poor and the impoverished communites are, the more crime there is, no matter what race it is.

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#130 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I would warn them especially if they were attacking my girl friend (regardless if she is pregnant or not), and then throw the leather if they continued.. I don't care what sex they are, you shouldn't hit adults period.. If they are going to cotinue attacking and there is no way I can get away in that situation.. I will lose my cool.
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#131 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Your just naive or in denial of reality if you think that blacks don't commit crimes more than any other race.
Anybody in the game or from the hood in any race will tell you if there being honest that blacks shoot, rob, and fight more than anyone else.
With that being said most black people are cool, but the amount of them that are criminals is the highest of any group.
Ive seen ppl get stabbed, shot at, robbed, and beaten to pulp more times than I can remember.
In fact its been less than a weak sense I seen someone get the mess beat out of them.
Ive never witnessed a white or Latino commit any of these crimes, only blacks.
I mostly see whites an latinos selling drugs and occaisionally stealing, but I don't see them attacking people and robbing ppl like I see blacks do all the time.
Criminals in most other races just don't seem as agressive or thoughtless to me as black criminals.
Most white or Mexican criminals will stand on the corner an sell dope. If you leave him alone, they will leave you alone most of the time.
Some are dramaqueens and always on dumb s***, but not like the Black criminals.
I know cats that leave the crib just to go f*** with people and beat people for no reason. All of them are Black.

BIG-BOSSMAN

This is absurd and pretty much racist.. There are certain cultural trends yes, but the guiding figure for crime has to do with poverty.. Something blacks are in more than any other racial group in the United States.

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#132 HaloReachGOTY
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Racism is never justified. Not ever. Not even if you're a little racist. You're generalizing every black person as potential perpetrators and that simply isn't fair.

LikeHaterade

do you know the % of blacks in prison? generalizing a little is good. sure not all black ppl will commit crimes but alot do. black ppl tend to have a short fuse also. like the girl kicking him in the face or this thug destroying this chiniese guy for parking in "his" parking spot.

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#133 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

Racism is never justified. Not ever. Not even if you're a little racist. You're generalizing every black person as potential perpetrators and that simply isn't fair.

HaloReachGOTY

do you know the % of blacks in prison? generalizing a little is good. sure not all black ppl will commit crimes but alot do. black ppl tend to have a short fuse also. like the girl kicking him in the face or this thug destroying this chiniese guy for parking in "his" parking spot.

No sorry this is not just a generalization.. As so much racism especially when you declare that black people are predisposed to having a temper.. I expect you to then tell us on how much they all love watermellon and fried chicken.. Because your stereotyping is going down that route.

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#134 HaloReachGOTY
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[QUOTE="HaloReachGOTY"]

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

Racism is never justified. Not ever. Not even if you're a little racist. You're generalizing every black person as potential perpetrators and that simply isn't fair.

sSubZerOo

do you know the % of blacks in prison? generalizing a little is good. sure not all black ppl will commit crimes but alot do. black ppl tend to have a short fuse also. like the girl kicking him in the face or this thug destroying this chiniese guy for parking in "his" parking spot.

No sorry this is not just a generalization.. As so much racism especially when you declare that black people are predisposed to having a temper.. I expect you to then tell us on how much they all love watermellon and fried chicken.. Because your stereotyping is going down that route.

i dont know man. trust me im far from racist. i chill with black ppl all the time. im just telling it like it is. and i dont know why black ppl love chicken. but my boy sure did chow down to come chicken thighs my mom made.

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#135 clayron
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[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Are you serious? No, really, are you?

SpartanMSU

I'm very serious. How would they be different?

Different culture...thought that was kind of obvious...

Please expand on the cultural differences that make the two distinct. Quit being vague and avoiding what I am asking.
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#136 SpartanMSU
Member since 2009 • 3440 Posts

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[QUOTE="clayron"]I'm very serious. How would they be different?clayron

Different culture...thought that was kind of obvious...

Please expand on the cultural differences that make the two distinct. Quit being vague and avoiding what I am asking.

I'm not avoiding anything...I made myself pretty clear. Cultural differences. Unless you think black American culture and black African culture are exactly the same...

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#137 clayron
Member since 2003 • 10121 Posts

[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Different culture...thought that was kind of obvious...

SpartanMSU

Please expand on the cultural differences that make the two distinct. Quit being vague and avoiding what I am asking.

I'm not avoiding anything...I made myself pretty clear. Cultural differences. Unless you think black American culture and black African culture are exactly the same...

Just went back and read your OP. You're right. I misread what you posted.
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#138 IAMTHEJOKER88
Member since 2008 • 934 Posts

I respect that guy for keeping his cool and acting as a human shield. Those two other girls were disgraceful. At least one of them seemed to be calm.

What was the dispute about? Did the guy really take her phone and ipod? Anyone know?

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#139 weezyfb
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it looks like some teenage bull.. i would have gotten off at the stop and taken the next one
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#140 arad96
Member since 2009 • 7783 Posts

Yeah, after the beginning of it, I would not have held myself back. I only wonder if he really did take her phone.

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#141 frostybanana
Member since 2010 • 5523 Posts

Yeah, after the beginning of it, I would not have held myself back. I only wonder if he really did take her phone.

arad96
Given his reaction, I would think not.
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#142 entropyecho
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I don't knock out women. I knock them up.

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#143 Gaming-Planet
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I'd feel like pulling gun into their faces.

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#144 Tauruslink
Member since 2005 • 6586 Posts
That guy has a lot of self control, I tell you what.
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#145 -Big_Red-
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To be quite honest... those girls could've easily taken me. They're savage.SolidSnake35

I Am.

I thought I taught you better than that :(.

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#146 -Big_Red-
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I can't hit a woman.

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Why:??
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#147 -Big_Red-
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-My quarterback on my football team was black, and as an offensive lineman I did my best to protect his ass
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Oh I hate offensive lineman:x!! D-LINE FTW:o!!

(I played Nose Tackle)

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#148 Nonstop-Madness
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If they just hit me .... I'd walk away. You hit me AND my pregnant girlfriend ......... I'd punch them until they were all unconscious.
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#149 -Big_Red-
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It looks like the girl who was accusing him of theft didn't lay a hand on him(he looked guilty) and was trying to stop her friends from attacking him. We don't have any back story but honestly if he really did steal her phone I'm OK with them jumping him to get it back.jeremiah06
Not trying to bust you out or anything Jeremiah, but I'm almost certain that if he actually did steal her phone, he would of acted far more aggressively when he was attacked. In the least he would of cussed them out. Just saying ;).
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#150 Treflis
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No, I wouldn't. Instead I'd insist my girlfriend stood at the bottom of the stairs while I'd block the way down to her. Sure they might've slapped, punched, bite and even kicked me but I'd feel like I've done the most important part in that situation. That and I know every buss have surveilance camera's.