The American GOP has finally found a way to reach out to latino voters

..by calling latinos inherently dumber than white "native" Americans!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/08/heritage-study-co-author-opposed-letting-in-immigrants-with-low-iqs/

The article in question uses selective data mixed with assumptions, which concludes that Hispanic immigrants are dumb people, and a drain on 'Murican society. GOP keeps trying to dress this bigotry up, Latino voters will smack it back down.

"The article in question uses selective data mixed with assumptions, which concludes that Hispanic immigrants are dumb people, and a drain on 'Murican society. GOP keeps trying to dress this bigotry up, Latino voters will smack it back down."

I have trouble believing that the dissertation is that bad, especially if it was successfully defended at HKS. One of the professors I work for is at HKS, they don't (usually) let bullsh*t slide.

illegal immigration is one of the best things to happen to America.

illegal immigration is one of the best things to happen to America.

frannkzappa

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illegal immigration is one of the best things to happen to America.

00-Riddick-00

Yup cheap labour, taking jobs not needed in America. Anything illegal immigrants are doing doesn't need to be done by Americans.

if anything illegal immigration is pushing us towards the ideal government (technocracy) by showing the weaknes of the price system.

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illegal immigration is one of the best things to happen to America.

00-Riddick-00

Well, actually, slavery is what made Americas economy in the first place. The only thing better than cheap labour is free labour!

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illegal immigration is one of the best things to happen to America.

00-Riddick-00

on some level he isn't wrong, most economists have come to the conclusion that illegal immigrants are a net benefit to the average American because they are filling jobs that are low wage, but necessary which we are not willing to take.

have a listen to this to learn more

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illegal immigration is one of the best things to happen to America.

Jimn_tonic

Well, actually, slavery is what made Americas economy in the first place. The only thing better than cheap labour is free labour!

we don't need human labour at all.

To be fair, this study was not done by GOP officials, the party leaders, or their think tanks. It was done by someone who was later hired by one of their think tanksmattbbpl

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[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"] You serious?frannkzappa

Well, actually, slavery is what made Americas economy in the first place. The only thing better than cheap labour is free labour!

we don't need human labour at all.

That comment is ridiculous. You clearly have no experience with machinery of any form. First rule of the world we live in: "Everything breaks." Human labour is necessary to counter this. If you cannot tell the difference between a 3/8" open end wrench and a 7/16" open end wrench simply by looking at it, you probably have no idea what you are talking about. Human interraction with machinery and manual labour will be a necessity for decades to come even under the most optimistic technological breakthrough circumstances.

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Well, actually, slavery is what made Americas economy in the first place. The only thing better than cheap labour is free labour!

Chemistian

we don't need human labour at all.

That comment is ridiculous. You clearly have no experience with machinery of any form. First rule of the world we live in: "Everything breaks." Human labour is necessary to counter this. If you cannot tell the difference between a 3/8" open end wrench and a 7/16" open end wrench simply by looking at it, you probably have no idea what you are talking about. Human interraction with machinery and manual labour will be a necessity for decades to come even under the most optimistic technological breakthrough circumstances.

You know very well that i only mean that insofar as production is concerned. The USA has been cappable of Automating the production of consumer goods for decades,

Of courses the automated process will be maintained by humans (in the foreseeable future at least).

maintenance and machinist jobs are not unskilled labour, and thus they are needed. unskilled labour is only needed(in terms of production) because of the shackle that is the price system. The USA is quite capable of becoming self sufficient (as far as production goes) and thus should operate on abundance based economics not scarcity based.

However i do not advocate socialism as it leads to stagnation. To illustrate this i will quote myself from another thread.

"This based on abundance economics which is indeed possible in the USA.

First of all, all means of production will be automated and controlled by the government. Then all citizens will receive a basic package of goods and services which will allow them to live a high standard of living essentially equal to the American middle class. however you are not limited to this, if you want more you can have more. you simply have to make it known to the government that you want something, and then based on your abilities,past service and potential future service you will receive what you desire. In this system the genius is always richer then the idiot and the just man always richer then the in-just. This system also allows any citizen to live a life of luxury should he work for it. we eliminate the poor but keep the productive middle class and allow for the existence of the wealthy (for to be wealthy you must be productive)

Of course these privileges are only given to citizens. You must be either be born in America and go through and complete the educational system or you can immigrate to America and if you are judged to be useful and worth having by the government you can also become a citizen.

This is a USA centered system but it could also potentially be applied to Israel and China."

You are overstating the value of automation, as well as its capabilities, by a long shot. The majority of production based automation efficiency advances have involved production consistencies and labor redundancy. Additionally, the sufficiency you are advocating ignores product individuality and variation. The labor intensity involved in reconfiguring equipment from one job to the next (often referred to as a makeready) is decades away from automation capabilities. As this often requires a size-able workforce, the unskilled laborer is far from obsolete. The Utopia you advocate is worthy of striving for, but unreachable within the coming centuries, at least in so far as my experience.Chemistian

That's all i ask.