The bible is not the only book of religion duh!

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#101 Yongying
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[QUOTE="Yongying"]If you want me to tell you then i will send you my msn and we can have a proper conversation. If you wanna pass on that then what can i say? i believe in god, i believe in spirits, i believe there could be aliens, i believe that human logic is limited, i believe in karma, i beleive in the balance of the universe i believe in many things, and i don't believe in many things, how much detail do you want me to go in?diz360

I was asking why you did not belive something fairly specific... I'll pass on MSN, as I'm discussing in other threads too.

If you beleive in all that stuff, then you must have a reason to. If you can't justify those beliefs, then maybe its time to think hard about what you really do believe.

I believe in the power of the human mind. To me, all those things you believe are functions of human conciousness. The need to define a resolute purpose and destiny in life are really urges from your ego to justify your existance.

The belief in spirits and aliens has no real merit. Despite the many purported visitations of ghosts and ETs, there is absolutely no evidence at all. Curious that... The balance of the universe is rather hard to define as we don't yet know the extent of the universe.

If you'd like to support the many thousands of psychic charlatans that will gladly take your money in your quest for spirits, why not check out the truth behind this fakery. I suggest you read Derren Brown's "Tricks of the Mind", to gain an understanding of how gladly and easily people are fooled.

I believe in spirits from personal experiances with the ouiji board. Call it crazy and untrue, but if i experianced it without being on drugs or alcohol, then why should i think it was just my mind playing tricks on me, because it sound more logical i guess? I believe there could be aliens because the universe is waaay to big for me to believe that we are the only livings things in it.
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#102 diz360
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I believe in spirits from personal experiances with the ouiji board. Call it crazy and untrue, but if i experianced it without being on drugs or alcohol, then why should i think it was just my mind playing tricks on me, because it sound more logical i guess? I believe there could be aliens because the universe is waaay to big for me to believe that we are the only livings things in it.Yongying

Ouija boards can give a freaky experience to people. There is a way to prove that the movement of the pointer is not spiritual though. Its similar to moving a table by laying hands on it. Noone feels like they are inputting any force, but minute involunary movements through the inate desire to see something happen make the table or ouija puck move.

Placing a sheet of glass on the table in a blind test would see the glass move, rather than the table. I've also been to an ouija board session and made up information that was then revealed to all by the board. I have an ouija mouse-mat as well. Is it not true that the puck speeds up after the first few letters have appeared? That's because of the limited amount of words that can be made from the initial letters...

Aliens may well exist, but the nearest star to earth is 4.2 light years away. The distances in space are vast so the likelihood of aliens landing on earth is remote in the extreme. We live in a popular culture of sci-fi, so its not hard to get sucked into this rather over-imagined world of aliens. Importantly, most astronomers don't believe in alien visitation. If aliens do exist, even in the vastness of space, it rather puts the whole religion thing on skids.

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#103 Yongying
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[QUOTE="Yongying"] I believe in spirits from personal experiances with the ouiji board. Call it crazy and untrue, but if i experianced it without being on drugs or alcohol, then why should i think it was just my mind playing tricks on me, because it sound more logical i guess? I believe there could be aliens because the universe is waaay to big for me to believe that we are the only livings things in it.diz360

Ouija boards can give a freaky experience to people. There is a way to prove that the movement of the pointer is not spiritual though. Its similar to moving a table by laying hands on it. Noone feels like they are inputting any force, but minute involunary movements through the inate desire to see something happen make the table or ouija puck move.

Placing a sheet of glass on the table in a blind test would see the glass move, rather than the table. I've also been to an ouija board session and made up information that was then revealed to all by the board. I have an ouija mouse-mat as well. Is it not true that the puck speeds up after the first few letters have appeared? That's because of the limited amount of words that can be made from the initial letters...

Aliens may well exist, but the nearest star to earth is 4.2 light years away. The distances in space are vast so the likelihood of aliens landing on earth is remote in the extreme. We live in a popular culture of sci-fi, so its not hard to get sucked into this rather over-imagined world of aliens. Importantly, most astronomers don't believe in alien visitation. If aliens do exist, even in the vastness of space, it rather puts the whole religion thing on skids.

I have been doing it for some time now by myself, i have enough experiance and confidence to say that a pointer that chooses letters that form words and sentences is not because of gravity or the wind or my mind playing tricks on me. I have never had a freaky experiance either. People that have little expierance with Ouija boards should not do it.

just to add, i do this alone, no group or people.

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#104 MichaeltheCM
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thank you for telling me something i already knew
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#105 Dethshoot
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*sigh* is this mohan in disguise?
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#106 diz360
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The puck does not move itself - you need to touch it. I can not understand why, as it means interference by an "interested" party. I can't see why people without expereince should not do it. I think you're creating some mythos behind what is a fairly easily explained cognitive process, using suggestion.

You would certainly be able to prove communication with the spirit world through interrogating an ouija board. It would be easy to construct valid tests. As yet there has been no evidence produced regarding the information retrieved from such devices whatsoever. If you do have some genuine proof of supernatural occurances, there is a million dollar reward just waiting for you.

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#107 prostar343
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The Vedas are not a religious document in the same sense as the Bible but rather a set of books written over the course of hundreds of years that explains a set of philosophies which is the core for Hinduism. Also the oldest Veda, Rigveda which is thought to have been completed around 1200 B.C. though they stem from older oral tradition thus they are not 5,000 years old. However, they are considered the oldest scripture still used.
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#108 Mumbles527
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Now explain how any book at all, whether its the bible or not, proves anything whatsoever. Theres a lot of books that take place in Middle-Earth, does that mean the Lord of the Rings must be true?