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#1 SkinBlues
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The Catholic Church is against the use of condoms which can prevent unwanted pregnancy and STD's such as HIV/AIDS. It says that the only effective way to fight HIV/AIDS is abstinence.

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#2 FragStains
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They are telling people not to have sex willy-nilly.  Not, to have sex willy-nilly and not use condoms. 

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#3 SkinBlues
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They are telling people not to have sex willy-nilly.  Not, to have sex willy-nilly and not use condoms. 

FragStains

I know what they are saying,but people are going to have sex.Isn't it best if they protect themself?

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#4 NathanHawkins
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the catholic church is quite educated on scientific endeavors (look at the methods used on exorcism and other such phenomena)...it opposes the use of birth control in the tradiotional sense. considering certain catholics (not I) who have been less then devout, which categorizes most of us regardless of the religious (or lack thereof) affilliation, the catholic chruch may in some ways be promoting it...however i doubt that your claim or question is worth too much regard.
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#5 Erasorn
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Masterbation is a crime.
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#6 -Karayan-
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Yes, quite obviously.
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#7 jm4847
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Yes, because lots of poor and ignorant people in Africa and South America listen to them blindly. All this happening because Karol Wojtyła wouldn't listen to the experts HE hired that told him the use of condoms and counterconceptives was okay. Most people are too weak to practice abstinence, the catholic church should be more pragmatic.
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#8 nickmag
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Masterbation is a crime.Erasorn
no idea why they came up with that
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They are against promiscuity and casual sex.  That doesnt contribute to the spread of AIDS.

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#10 Verigar
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No mate,that's not right.
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#11 Mercury88
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[QUOTE="FragStains"]

They are telling people not to have sex willy-nilly.  Not, to have sex willy-nilly and not use condoms. 

SkinBlues

I know what they are saying,but people are going to have sex.Isn't it best if they protect themself?

Well if they believe in the Catholic faith strongly enough to not use contraception, I'm sure they will be willing to wait untill they are married. In which case I doubt they will have STD's or will be spreading them.
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#12 romocop33
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the people that are dangerous are those "abstinence rings" guys that talk to high schoolers. i saw an interview with one in one of my classes last semester and he said that condoms didn't work, so if teenages decided to have sex, they might as well not use condoms.
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#13 LoG-Sacrament
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[QUOTE="Erasorn"]Masterbation is a crime.nickmag
no idea why they came up with that

watch "moral Orel." theres a simple way of avoiding that sin.
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#14 yoshi-lnex
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Yes they are against condoms which have been proven effective against spreading aids.
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Not following stupid religious rules FTW
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the people that are dangerous are those "abstinence rings" guys that talk to high schoolers. i saw an interview with one in one of my classes last semester and he said that condoms didn't work, so if teenages decided to have sex, they might as well not use condoms.romocop33


Like that episode of Family Guy... but real... :(
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#17 Def_Jef88
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we could just not have sex....
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#18 foxhound_fox
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we could just not have sex....Def_Jef88


And then not have children...
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#19 Def_Jef88
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[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]we could just not have sex....foxhound_fox


And then not have children...

we have enough of em already.... 

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#20 yoshi-lnex
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we could just not have sex....Def_Jef88
Or we could just burn people, think about, it, are you going to have sex with 3rd degree burns? I doubt it.
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#21 Def_Jef88
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[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]we could just not have sex....yoshi-lnex
Or we could just burn people, think about, it, are you going to have sex with 3rd degree burns? I doubt it.

its genious... :o
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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]we could just not have sex....Def_Jef88
Or we could just burn people, think about, it, are you going to have sex with 3rd degree burns? I doubt it.

its genious... :o

Why havent they made this law yet? :o
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#23 foxhound_fox
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we have enough of em already.... Def_Jef88

Without new children to replace the people dying, the human race will go extinct. 

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#24 Def_Jef88
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[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]we have enough of em already.... foxhound_fox

Without new children to replace the people dying, the human race will go extinct.

no kidding, eh sherlock?
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#25 foxhound_fox
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no kidding, eh sherlock?Def_Jef88

OH! So sarcasm was a factor in this discussion... :oops:

My bad... 

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#26 Erasorn
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[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]we could just not have sex....Bourbons3
Or we could just burn people, think about, it, are you going to have sex with 3rd degree burns? I doubt it.

its genious... :o

Why havent they made this law yet? :o

We should just vote yoshi-Inex into the office to do it for us! :D
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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]we could just not have sex....Erasorn
Or we could just burn people, think about, it, are you going to have sex with 3rd degree burns? I doubt it.

its genious... :o

Why havent they made this law yet? :o

We should just vote yoshi-Inex into the office to do it for us! :D

Burn them all! mwa ha ha ha
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#28 nickdastick
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[QUOTE="FragStains"]

They are telling people not to have sex willy-nilly.  Not, to have sex willy-nilly and not use condoms. 

SkinBlues

I know what they are saying,but people are going to have sex.Isn't it best if they protect themself?

 

I have to say no because like Frag said, they are telling people not to have sex with multiple people and to only have sex with the person you are married to. I think they don't want people to use condoms because they think sex is for having kids only and so if you have sex you need to be able to have kids... why else would they say not to wear that? But yeah, most churches have the stance that you shouldn't have frivolous sex and it should be something for marriage. So they are not promoting the spread of HIV/AIDS, they are hoping that the people of their church follow the correct teachings and don't abuse sex.

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[QUOTE="SkinBlues"][QUOTE="FragStains"]

They are telling people not to have sex willy-nilly.  Not, to have sex willy-nilly and not use condoms. 

nickdastick

I know what they are saying,but people are going to have sex.Isn't it best if they protect themself?

 

I have to say no because like Frag said, they are telling people not to have sex with multiple people and to only have sex with the person you are married to. I think they don't want people to use condoms because they think sex is for having kids only and so if you have sex you need to be able to have kids... why else would they say not to wear that? But yeah, most churches have the stance that you shouldn't have frivolous sex and it should be something for marriage. So they are not promoting the spread of HIV/AIDS, they are hoping that the people of their church follow the correct teachings and don't abuse sex.

actually becouse they are against condoms, chatholics in africa don't use them, and becouse they are human, they have sex anyways, which helps in the spread of aids, and as a result the death toll in Africa is overwhelming, enitire familys dead and children born with the desease who will all die becouse of blunders by the chatholic church, for all intents and purposes, the Chatholic church is basically commiting genocide. The same thing occurs in the U.S. condoms have been proven to prevent the spread of stds and prevent pregnancy better than abstinence alone, and yet I see religious organizations lying to high schoolers about how condoms never work, and becouse most people aren't strong enough to stay abstenent, they have sex anyways and often use "pulling out" or no method at all as method for birth control, as a result pregnancy and std transmission rates go up. They might hope that people will follow their teachings but in the end, it's resulted in them having a hand in generations of africans dying out.
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[QUOTE="SkinBlues"][QUOTE="FragStains"]

They are telling people not to have sex willy-nilly.  Not, to have sex willy-nilly and not use condoms. 

Mercury88

I know what they are saying,but people are going to have sex.Isn't it best if they protect themself?

Well if they believe in the Catholic faith strongly enough to not use contraception, I'm sure they will be willing to wait untill they are married. In which case I doubt they will have STD's or will be spreading them.

  Seeing as the supposed "most faithful" priests and the Pope's themseleves have been discovered to have affairs and sexual relationships through out history which most historians unnamously agree is true.  I would rethink what your saying..

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[QUOTE="nickmag"][QUOTE="Erasorn"]Masterbation is a crime.LoG-Sacrament
no idea why they came up with that

watch "moral Orel." theres a simple way of avoiding that sin.

hahahah i love adult swim 

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#32 bastards12345
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In Catholic countries? Yes. In Africa? No.
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#33 quiglythegreat
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Abstinence programs result in far less condoms and no less sex.
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#34 DrummerJon
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Of course it is, its telling Africans not to use condoms.
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#35 DrummerJon
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In Catholic countries? Yes. In Africa? No.bastards12345
The church effects every catholic person regardless of the nation, so any catholics in Africa are deeply effected by the "condoms are bad" message.
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#36 bastards12345
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Of course it is, its telling Africans not to use condoms.DrummerJon
Catholics are a minority in most African countries. Do you think they have that much influence?:|
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#37 quiglythegreat
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[QUOTE="DrummerJon"]Of course it is, its telling Africans not to use condoms.bastards12345
Catholics are a minority in most African countries. Do you think they have that much influence?:|

That is irrelevent. The Catholic Church could be helping by distributing condoms, or at least not doing any harm at all by not preaching abstinence to those Africans that they do reach.
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[QUOTE="DrummerJon"]Of course it is, its telling Africans not to use condoms.bastards12345
Catholics are a minority in most African countries. Do you think they have that much influence?:|

They set up health and aid agencys all over the place and advise people to not have sex rather than use a condom. Yes, the catholic church is a huge player in this issue. Maybe not many africans are catholic but if people giving you medical assistance are catholic, well that will effect it a great bit no? http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1247745,00.html

 

" There are more English-speaking Catholics in Africa than in all other continents combined."

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:28iTVTJgeoYJ:www.blackpressusa.com/news/Article.asp%3FSID%3D3%26Title%3DNational%2BNews%26NewsID%3D4018+catholics+in+africa&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a

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They are against promiscuity and casual sex.  That doesnt contribute to the spread of AIDS.

sonicare
It seems to me they're against ANY form of Pre-Marital sex.
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#41 quiglythegreat
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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

They are against promiscuity and casual sex. That doesnt contribute to the spread of AIDS.

Hallenbeck77
It seems to me they're against ANY form of Pre-Marital sex.

Seems to them too.
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#42 Hexum-311
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we could just not have sex....Def_Jef88
Try it...it sucks.
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[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]we could just not have sex....yoshi-lnex
Or we could just burn people, think about, it, are you going to have sex with 3rd degree burns? I doubt it.

lol for some reason, when you said this, it reminded me of george carlin:lol:
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#44 Def_Jef88
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[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]we could just not have sex....Hexum-311
Try it...it sucks.

ive been doing it for nearly 15 years... :(
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#45 branketra
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[QUOTE="Erasorn"]Masterbation is a crime.nickmag
no idea why they came up with that

You're killing the unborn children. Even that one that makes it and shuts the rest out of the bubble of truth. Really, the only effective way to fight aids is to kill everyone with it. They seem to be leaving out the part where if my blood (still attached to the rest of my blood line) were to come in contact with someone's with the HIV/AIDS virus, I would get it. I say yeah.
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[QUOTE="bastards12345"]In Catholic countries? Yes. In Africa? No.DrummerJon
The church effects every catholic person regardless of the nation, so any catholics in Africa are deeply effected by the "condoms are bad" message.

But.. I thought it was because condoms were to small and they were painful to wear! :o
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[QUOTE="nickmag"][QUOTE="Erasorn"]Masterbation is a crime.BranKetra
no idea why they came up with that

You're killing the unborn children. .

A majority of a woman's ferterized eggs are flushed out of her body when she has her menstrual cycle. So does that mean that any woman that has more than one period or any guy who pleasures themselves are serial killers?
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#48 Erasorn
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="nickmag"][QUOTE="Erasorn"]Masterbation is a crime.Hallenbeck77
no idea why they came up with that

You're killing the unborn children. .

A majority of a woman's ferterized eggs are flushed out of her body when she has her menstrual cycle. So does that mean that any woman that has more than one period or any guy who pleasures themselves are serial killers?

Hell yeahz. 8)
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They are against promiscuity and casual sex. That doesnt contribute to the spread of AIDS.

sonicare
Telling people that using condoms will send them to hell does.
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#50 firebubbles
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yes, but only because i have heard of missionaries telling their flocks in africa that america is trying to give them aids, that the condoms already have aids in them.