The grave misconception of atheists regarding religion and God!!

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#51 JabbaDaHutt30
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[QUOTE="muthsera666"] I completely disagree. I fall into the agnostic category, though I'm more of a skeptic. I don't believe in God, nor do I not believe in God. I believe in the possibility. But, with my current knowledge base, I cannot know for sure either way. Ergo, agnosticism. muthsera666

Not knowing if God exists is a state of knowledge, not belief. If you're not a theist, then the other single possibility is not to be a theist, therefore having a lack of religion, ergo, atheism - the absence of theism. "I don't believe in God, nor do I not believe in God." You mean "disbelieve in God's existence", I'm sure. Atheists don't have to disbelieve in God's existence, since atheism is merely the lack of religion, hence the 'A'. If you are not in any manner religious, then you are by default an atheist.

If you are undecided about whether something is true or not, then that obviously means you don't believe it's TRUE (yet).

No. My indecision about whether something is true does not mean that I do not believe it is true. I simply do not know if it is true. I believe that there is the possibility of it being true, but I don't know.

Naive. Many religious folk and atheists alike are in doubt, but generally maintain their belief. If a Christian would be religious and wouldn't believe in God, then he'd KNOW God would exist (through miracles of some sort) Even if you say that God is a possibility and don't believe in him, you still qualify as an atheist because you lack a religion. A religious belief concerns itself with what you believe (doh!), therefore any exploration of the possibilities you may acknowledge do not change what you believe in. Agnosticism is a lack of knowledge; atheism is a lack of belief. Many religious people could be considered "agnostic' by that logic, bcause they BELIEVE in God, and don't KNOW God exists. The same could apply to atheists. But in the end, atheists remain atheists and theists remain theists, regardless of their open-mindedness or lack thereof. It's simple: if you're not actively religious, you are without religion.
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#53 bigdrew172
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I think the TC pointed out another reason why its bad for you to be religious. People always ask me what is the harm in believing in religion and now I can add onto the list that it makes you sad that other people don't believe in it.

I know you tried to leave it open to all other religions to feel the same way, but follow me in a thought experiment really fast. Wouldn't you be annoyed/offended if a Muslim came up to you and said, "I feel really bad for you being a christian... I'm not going to see you in heaven." There are enough religions out there that are damning you to hell if you don't believe in that one religion. So there is no reason to ask if people feel bad for athiests when we are the only ones not worried at all.


I feel bad for religious people because if I were to believe in a god I'd be freaking out all the time worrying on whether or not I've picked the correct god. Lets say I'm wrong, I end up in hell for eternity, I can sit there and be kinda excited I get to live for an eternity and I had only thought I'd get 75 years. But how about those christians that are sitting there getting tourtured next to me (assuming the muslim faith is correct), they get to spend eternity thinking they did all this work and praying for a god that doesn't even exist. So really the athiest in this case is much better off.

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#54 Teenaged
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I agree with you but good luck convincing others.
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#55 BumFluff122
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"][QUOTE="Stranger_4"]

No it isnt.

Cancer is more painful than getting buthered alive...it's not even a contest as cancer will gradually kill you with months of misery.

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You obviously know nothing about dying of cancer.

Yes you are right cuz my uncle didnt die from cancer and my mom never fought it for a year before recovering from it.:roll:

yes I am right. Cancer doesn't cause throwing up or sicknesses. It's the treament that does. My grandfather died from cancer as well and, as he was already old and past his prime and it was so far gone he just wanted to die. He didn't get treatment, there was no throwing up or fear. He just wanted to be with his family.
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#56 Stranger_4
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[QUOTE="Stranger_4"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]You obviously know nothing about dying of cancer.BumFluff122
Yes you are right cuz my uncle didnt die from cancer and my mom never fought it for a year before recovering from it.:roll:

yes I am right. Cancer doesn't cause throwing up or sicknesses. It's the treament that does. My grandfather died from cancer as well and, as he was already old and past his prime and it was so far gone he just wanted to die. He didn't get treatment, there was no throwing up or fear. He just wanted to be with his family.

Not everybody is so old that they'll not even get the threatment.:|

And the treatment, the chemeotherapy(spelling) is such a tough thing to go through you have absolutely no idea!!

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#57 dommeus
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Awesome. I havent been here in like 2 years and people are still making religious threads...