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I must say, I can not disagree. Everyone should read The Demon Haunted World and watch Cosmos.bededogThe Demon Haunted World is one of my favorite books, period. I read it about once a year. I'm more comfortable picking my favorites than the greatest, so for me it's a tie between Orson Welles and Frank Zappa.
J.R.R. Tolkien But seriously I don't know. The correct answer is Jesus but yeah, it's been said already
Tupac>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dirt>>>>>> J.R.R Tolkien : p lol jkJ.R.R. Tolkien But seriously I don't know. The correct answer is Jesus but yeah, it's been said already
RobboElRobbo
[QUOTE="TheMadGamer"]
Jesus
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grokh
Who ever lived not mythological figures.
Oh no, not one of you people. Here, read this and get enligtened.
Here's an excerpt: "The scholarly mainstream not only rejects the myth thesisbut identifies serious methodological deficiencies in the approach.As such, professor of divinity James Dunn describes the mythical Jesus theory as a "thoroughly dead thesis"."
I must say, I can not disagree. Everyone should read The Demon Haunted World and watch Cosmos.bededog
Yeah Cosmos is so inspiring, and all the things he said were just as truth then as they are now, and probably will always be appliable to any generation.
Also the way he explained things in such magical way shoving aside dogmatic views and pettyness.
He was definately a visionary, that truly saw the potential in humankind, but did not rush to condemn but rather embrace it and debate it in a civilized manner.
He could make anyone wanna be an astronomer without even trying to influenciate, i mean i remember on cosmos how he said when a kid asks why the grass is green then we should all sit down and take the time to talk about it and analyse it.
He celebrated the human spirit and its imagination as well as its curiosity... I cant think of anyone else that ever celebrated life, imagination, knowledge and mankind this way.
[QUOTE="grokh"]
[QUOTE="TheMadGamer"]
Jesus
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TheMadGamer
Who ever lived not mythological figures.
Oh no, not one of you people. Here, read this and get enligtened.
Here's an excerpt: "The scholarly mainstream not only rejects the myth thesisbut identifies serious methodological deficiencies in the approach.As such, professor of divinity James Dunn describes the mythical Jesus theory as a "thoroughly dead thesis"."
Yes let me get my knowledge from wikipedia because just like the bible god wrote it -_-x.
[QUOTE="grokh"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"]
Jesus
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funsohng
Who ever lived not mythological figures.
so now Jesus never existed? :?Wouldnt you think that a figure so important to humankind would at the very least be mentioned by historians at the time?
And plz dont anyone dear using bible as evidence otherwise we will be discussing if Snakes can talk or not .
Carl Sagan
Damn. It. To. Hell. Ha! Your disappointment fuels me!so now Jesus never existed? :?[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="grokh"]
Who ever lived not mythological figures.
grokh
Wouldnt you think that a figure so important to humankind would at the very least be mentioned by historians at the time?
And plz dont anyone dear using bible as evidence otherwise we will be discussing if Snakes can talk or not .
Are you really arguing that Jesus never existed? :lol:so now Jesus never existed? :?[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="grokh"]
Who ever lived not mythological figures.
grokh
Wouldnt you think that a figure so important to humankind would at the very least be mentioned by historians at the time?
And plz dont anyone dear using bible as evidence otherwise we will be discussing if Snakes can talk or not .
... Roman Historians at the time recorded him.[QUOTE="grokh"][QUOTE="funsohng"] so now Jesus never existed? :?Guppy507
Wouldnt you think that a figure so important to humankind would at the very least be mentioned by historians at the time?
And plz dont anyone dear using bible as evidence otherwise we will be discussing if Snakes can talk or not .
Are you really arguing that Jesus never existed? :lol:Yes, let's not start that... it's been done to death on OT. Jesus is not a myth... get over it.
[QUOTE="grokh"][QUOTE="TheMadGamer"]
Jesus
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funsohng
Who ever lived not mythological figures.
so now Jesus never existed? :? Whether he existed or not, he's far from being the greatest human to ever live, imo.Damn. It. To. Hell. I was under the impression that you were something more than a mere human, xaos. Going by the picture I was under the impression that he was a pod person. (love that film)Carl Sagan
grokh
Oooh, something is brewing quite nicely in this thread.. time to get me some popcorn :)Bloodseeker23Years of plannning.......
[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="grokh"]so now Jesus never existed? :? Whether he existed or not, he's far from from being the greatest human to ever live, imo.Who ever lived not mythological figures.
PernicioEnigma
Who would you rank as the greatest then?
so now Jesus never existed? :? Whether he existed or not, he's far from being the greatest human to ever live, imo.[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="grokh"]
Who ever lived not mythological figures.
PernicioEnigma
HAHAHA Holy **** I can't believe what is being said lol
[QUOTE="TheMadGamer"]
Who would you rank as the greatest then?
Dystopian-X
The ghostbusters!
Funny, I missed that part in the gospels... who knew! :lol:
No, I think it was doomed to fail from that start.This thread had so much promise. Jesus ruins everything.
:evil::(:|:D:P
GodzillavsXenu
[QUOTE="grokh"][QUOTE="funsohng"] so now Jesus never existed? :?funsohng
Wouldnt you think that a figure so important to humankind would at the very least be mentioned by historians at the time?
And plz dont anyone dear using bible as evidence otherwise we will be discussing if Snakes can talk or not .
... Roman Historians at the time recorded him.No they didnt , there is insufficient evidence to conclude that.
Cornelius Tacitus: He was a Roman historian who lived from 55 to 120 CE and wrote a book Annals, circa 112 CE. McDowell and Stewart accept his writings as a strong indicator of Jesus' existence in the early 1st century CE. However, the information could have been derived from Christian material circulating in the early 2nd century.
Suetonius: He was the author of The Lives of the Caesars circa 120 CE. He wrote to "Since the Jews constantly made disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, [Emperor Claudius in 49 CE] expelled them from Rome." This passage is often used to support the historicity of Jesus, assuming that Jesus' title was misspelled. But Chrestus was in fact a common Greek name. It is likely that the reference is to a Jewish agitator in Rome by that name.
Other ancient Roman historians: There were about 40 historians who wrote during the first two centuries.With the exception of the above, none stated that Jesus existed in the 1st century.
and thats all i need to say on the matter.
... Roman Historians at the time recorded him.[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="grokh"]
Wouldnt you think that a figure so important to humankind would at the very least be mentioned by historians at the time?
And plz dont anyone dear using bible as evidence otherwise we will be discussing if Snakes can talk or not .
grokh
No they didnt , there is insufficient evidence to conclude that.
... what?? :?[QUOTE="grokh"][QUOTE="funsohng"] ... Roman Historians at the time recorded him.funsohng
No they didnt , there is insufficient evidence to conclude that.
... what?? :?Cornelius Tacitus: He was a Roman historian who lived from 55 to 120 CE and wrote a book Annals, circa 112 CE. McDowell and Stewart accept his writings as a strong indicator of Jesus' existence in the early 1st century CE. However, the information could have been derived from Christian material circulating in the early 2nd century.
Suetonius: He was the author of The Lives of the Caesars circa 120 CE. He wrote to "Since the Jews constantly made disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, [Emperor Claudius in 49 CE] expelled them from Rome." This passage is often used to support the historicity of Jesus, assuming that Jesus' title was misspelled. But Chrestus was in fact a common Greek name. It is likely that the reference is to a Jewish agitator in Rome by that name.
Other ancient Roman historians: There were about 40 historians who wrote during the first two centuries.With the exception of the above, none stated that Jesus existed in the 1st century.
and thats all i need to say on the matter.
and thats all i need to say on the matter.grokhthat's because until then, Jesus was just a guy who was crucified, like other millions of criminals. at the time when Jesus was alive, Christianity didn't even exist. Moreover, the records did not survive, and a lot of Roman historians were interested in lives of their emperors not, some minor cult at the time. And there is a record of Jesus by a Jewish (not Christian) Historian Josephus, who lived right after Jesus died. How many modern scholars deny the existence of Jesus anyway? I'm sure they have done far better research than both of us.
so now Jesus never existed? :?[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="grokh"]
Who ever lived not mythological figures.
grokh
Wouldnt you think that a figure so important to humankind would at the very least be mentioned by historians at the time?
And plz dont anyone dear using bible as evidence otherwise we will be discussing if Snakes can talk or not .
And yet, historians use B.C and A.CPlease Log In to post.
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