The greatest human who ever lived

[QUOTE="grokh"]and thats all i need to say on the matter.funsohng

At the very least historians and scholars believe he was a good man that preached about the Kingdom of God, loving your neighbor, and some other things that agitated the religious leaders of that day. The vast majority of what secular or non-Christian historians deny are the miracles of Jesus which is more based on their presuppositions and preunderstandings about the impossibility of miracles before they even look at the evidence.

George Carlin is my vote for greatest human of all time...

[QUOTE="grokh"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"] so now Jesus never existed? :?madsnakehhh

Wouldnt you think that a figure so important to humankind would at the very least be mentioned by historians at the time?

And plz dont anyone dear using bible as evidence otherwise we will be discussing if Snakes can talk or not .

I don't want to sound arrogant or anything, but it's me.....I'm the best thing that has happened to this planet since the mass extinction of the dinosaurs.

I don't want to sound arrogant or anything, but it's me.....I'm the best thing that has happened to this planet since the mass extinction of the dinosaurs.

jerk-o-tron2000

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I don't want to sound arrogant or anything, but it's me.....I'm the best thing that has happened to this planet since the mass extinction of the dinosaurs.

TheMadGamer

I'd like to disagree, but I simply can't.

jerk-o-tron2000 /thread

Glad to see someone sees it my way. 8)

George Carlin is my vote for greatest human of all time...

ps3wizard45

Who cares if Jesus existed? You think he cured blindness and arose from the dead when we have no remote idea how to do either 2000 years later (working on blindness, death still tricky)? Chances are he was some cool guy everyone liked whose story turned into this over exaggerated mythology of impossible feats. You think some hillbilly 2000 years ago walked on water and turned water to wine? Sure paints a grim picture for humanities future.

Sagan and Richard Feynman is equal in my opinion.

That's not a scientist!

Now THAT'S a scientist.

Who cares if Jesus existed? You think he cured blindness and arose from the dead when we have no remote idea how to do either 2000 years later (working on blindness, death still tricky)? Chances are he was some cool guy everyone liked whose story turned into this over exaggerated mythology of impossible feats. You think some hillbilly 2000 years ago walked on water and turned water to wine? Sure paints a grim picture for humanities future.

Sagan and Richard Feynman is equal in my opinion.

Human-after-all

Miracle =/= scientific research

L. Ron Hubbard.

Seriously though, Mother Teresa and Gandhi and those countless scientists and philosophers who worked tirelessly to discover the nature of our universe and world were pretty gravy.

Who cares if Jesus existed? You think he cured blindness and arose from the dead when we have no remote idea how to do either 2000 years later (working on blindness, death still tricky)? Chances are he was some cool guy everyone liked whose story turned into this over exaggerated mythology of impossible feats. You think some hillbilly 2000 years ago walked on water and turned water to wine? Sure paints a grim picture for humanities future.

Sagan and Richard Feynman is equal in my opinion.

Human-after-all

That's pretty great dude.

Eh. Carl Sagan didn't save over a billion lives. Norman Borlaug gets my vote.

Napoleon Bonaparte.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="grokh"]

Who ever lived not mythological figures.

grokh

Wouldnt you think that a figure so important to humankind would at the very least be mentioned by historians at the time?

And plz dont anyone dear using bible as evidence otherwise we will be discussing if Snakes can talk or not .

Birds can talk, why can't snakes? :P

prophet mohammad

I would say Einstein and Tesla

prophet mohammad

Harisemo

never you mind he spoke with angels and the like.

[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="grokh"]

Wouldnt you think that a figure so important to humankind would at the very least be mentioned by historians at the time?

And plz dont anyone dear using bible as evidence otherwise we will be discussing if Snakes can talk or not .

TheMadGamer

Yes, let's not start that... it's been done to death on OT. Jesus is not a myth... get over it.

My mom, without her I would not exist. To each of you; your mothers, for the same reason.

Every other response is obviously flawed :)

michelangelo.

My mom, without her I would not exist. To each of you; your mothers, for the same reason.

Every other response is obviously flawed :)

SUD123456

My Father.

Thomas Newcomen

Jesus, first of all, has no confirmed "personality" so I don't see how anyone can logically or factuallychoose him.

He was either;

1) Hardcore ancient Hippy/Ghandi.

2) Jewish freedom fighter who wanted control of the Holy Land/Roman Jewish rebel.

3) Apocalyptic prophet and Jewish mystic who the Romans saw as a threat to civil order.

Anyways, as long as people think that one Human being can be greater than another our problems will never end. Every Human being is equally great.

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

prophet mohammad

SkyWard20

never you mind he spoke with angels and the like.

*yawn* is that it?

Andy Kaufman

This man,

Its Jesus. Though I had a dream where i met 'the greatest man who ever lived' according to the narrator in my dream, and he was pretty cool too.

Gandhi.

Josepth Stalan, not trying to troll but a lot of people died fighting for his cause, be it their will or not, they still died and he owned them. So he wins, for owning more people then any other person alive EVER!

This man,

MystikFollower

[QUOTE="TheMadGamer"]

[QUOTE="grokh"]

Who ever lived not mythological figures.

grokh

Oh no, not one of you people. Here, read this and get enligtened.

Here's an excerpt: "The scholarly mainstream not only rejects the myth thesisbut identifies serious methodological deficiencies in the approach.As such, professor of divinity James Dunn describes the mythical Jesus theory as a "thoroughly dead thesis"."

Yes let me get my knowledge from wikipedia because just like the bible god wrote it -_-x.

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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

prophet mohammad

Harisemo

never you mind he spoke with angels and the like.

*yawn* is that it?

Jesus, Gandhi and Buddha all have points in my book.

I always have a tough time deciding this.

Jesus and Buddha were pretty cool guys, but then again, so is Morgan Freeman, so I can't really decide between those three.

Jesus Christ

Adolf HitlerJazz_Fan

[QUOTE="grokh"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"] so now Jesus never existed? :?Guppy507

Wouldnt you think that a figure so important to humankind would at the very least be mentioned by historians at the time?

And plz dont anyone dear using bible as evidence otherwise we will be discussing if Snakes can talk or not .

It's not whether he existed or not, because he did. The question is if he was just some guy who people wrote about or the son of god. Historical evidence disproves much of what was in the 1st bible. Believe what you will, but please try to look at things through YOUR own eyes and not others.

This man,

MystikFollower

A challenger appears!

[QUOTE="TheMadGamer"]

Jesus

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Who ever lived not mythological figures.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Even if Jesus wasn't the Messiah (which I believe he was), he was still a profoundly influential philosopher, and one of the first people to preach pacifism. That scores major points in my book. As for "he never existed," if we can't trust Tacitus on the matter, does that mean we have to throw out his writings on, say, Nero or Tiberius? After all, by that logic, should Tacitus have been alive "too late?" And of those "40 Historians," I'd like you to go over that list and see how many of them are actually historians, and not, say, geographers and poets?SkyWard20

Jesus came on the scene at a time when the religious establishment was preaching purity above all else, and he basically said "no, **** all that, be compassionate to each other, that's the whole point". His wholesale rejection of the Jewish purity system of his day, which is something that really pervades all of the reliable and consistent accounts of things he said or did, is something that was in my view undeniably positive.

Of course, today the modern Christian establishment seems awfully similar to the Jewish establishment of Jesus' day, but that's a different story. :P

Me.

But I havent died yet so I cant be in the list of the greatest people who have lived.