The greatest rapper?

nas

lupe

and jay Z

[QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"]

TUpac Shakur is the GOAT, noone comes close

Orlando_Magic

2. Crooked I

tupac is not the best rapper. hes decent but not the best, tupacs fake, im sick of everyone saying hes the hardest rapper ever. He was a ballet dancer for christs sake. I prefer Eazy e.

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"]

TUpac Shakur is the GOAT, noone comes close

R0cky_Racc00n

2. Crooked I

I was mocking Mkavanaugh because every other post he makes in Off The Books is about Crooked I...

tupac is not the best rapper. hes decent but not the best, tupacs fake, im sick of everyone saying hes the hardest rapper ever. He was a ballet dancer for christs sake. I prefer Eazy e.

ConkerAndBerri2

Ballet is one of the cruelest things a person can do to their body. Do not say someone is not hard because he learned how to dance.

Eli porter.D3nnyCrane

I like a lot of the names I have seen but as I have grown older, rap is a complete joke and junk. All these guys are just full of it and sing about BS making themselves sound hard when really these guys are like 5'5" and the only way they can take you out is with their pose. Everybody talks 2pac but what did everybody learn from 2pac? That he gets around and treats women like trash buuuuut Ladies Keep your head up, lol. it is sad when all you can sing about is violence. Worst even that these guys have the right to call themselves pimps and players but the only way they can get a woman is by throwing cash at her at the strip club, lol. Going to the strip club and giving a woman money is not player at all, its sad more than anything. Being a player is getting a woman on your own means. Rappers are ghetto and definately have no knowledge to learn from. All rapper sing about is themselves and selfishness. Lets not forget that orginality of their beats does not exsist since they rip off old songs.

I cant believe nobody mentioned Run DMC.

[QUOTE="ConkerAndBerri2"]

tupac is not the best rapper. hes decent but not the best, tupacs fake, im sick of everyone saying hes the hardest rapper ever. He was a ballet dancer for christs sake. I prefer Eazy e.

clayron

Ballet is one of the cruelest things a person can do to their body. Do not say someone is not hard because he learned how to dance.

I like a lot of the names I have seen but as I have grown older, rap is a complete joke and junk. All these guys are just full of it and sing about BS making themselves sound hard when really these guys are like 5'5" and the only way they can take you out is with their pose. Everybody talks 2pac but what did everybody learn from 2pac? That he gets around and treats women like trash buuuuut Ladies Keep your head up, lol. it is sad when all you can sing about is violence. Worst even that these guys have the right to call themselves pimps and players but the only way they can get a woman is by throwing cash at her at the strip club, lol. Going to the strip club and giving a woman money is not player at all, its sad more than anything. Being a player is getting a woman on your own means. Rappers are ghetto and definately have no knowledge to learn from. All rapper sing about is themselves and selfishness. Lets not forget that orginality of their beats does not exsist since they rip off old songs.

I cant believe nobody mentioned Run DMC.

balindos

I like a lot of the names I have seen but as I have grown older, rap is a complete joke and junk. All these guys are just full of it and sing about BS making themselves sound hard when really these guys are like 5'5" and the only way they can take you out is with their pose. Everybody talks 2pac but what did everybody learn from 2pac? That he gets around and treats women like trash buuuuut Ladies Keep your head up, lol. it is sad when all you can sing about is violence. Worst even that these guys have the right to call themselves pimps and players but the only way they can get a woman is by throwing cash at her at the strip club, lol. Going to the strip club and giving a woman money is not player at all, its sad more than anything. Being a player is getting a woman on your own means. Rappers are ghetto and definately have no knowledge to learn from.balindos

^^ Seriously, guy? Some of what you say has merit, it really does. The bolded underlined statement is completely ignorant, and I believe you know it. You need to move beyond listening to just "Gangster Rap", because that is what I believe you are referring to, and true, a majority of that contains violence and langauge that is often derogatory towards women.

You seem to not take notice of the many rappers that are not negative, or those that have moved away from a negative style they once adopted. Andre 3000 is a great example of the latter. His songs have meaning and are often fairly thought provoking if you truly listen and attempt to understand the lyrics. What about Common, Lupe, Enimen (Many of his songs have a meaning behind the violence. While some, I believe, are not violent at all), Nas, even Young Dro (His names betrays him)? There are many more. Do not say there is nothing to learn. Try not listening to the radio, remember they play what people want to hear, and many people like to hear that kind of music. Instead, try listening to albums most have truly emotional songs, or try listening to rappers with positive messages.

If it seems I attacked you, I apologize. But I believe it is unfair to jugde rappers, as a whole, without having taking the time to listen to their songs which show that there is a thought process behind many rappers.

But, I will concede many rappers are jsut frankly full of crap. Soulja boy, E-40, Hurricane Chris, Huey.

All time- Tupac

Right now- Lil Wayne

[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="ConkerAndBerri2"]

tupac is not the best rapper. hes decent but not the best, tupacs fake, im sick of everyone saying hes the hardest rapper ever. He was a ballet dancer for christs sake. I prefer Eazy e.

ConkerAndBerri2

Ballet is one of the cruelest things a person can do to their body. Do not say someone is not hard because he learned how to dance.

They are two different songs. He and Biggie had personal problems, they genuinely disliked each other, either that or they knew how to create enough tension to sell records. Please explain how you moved from ballet to saying that the messge in 2 different songs conflict.

It is not fake to tell someone the equivalent of "Keep ya head up", and then curse at another individual. I am pretty sure you, and everyone else in existence, do the same thing all the time.

Plus, doesn't every artist do this. Whether it is rap or some other genre of music. R&B, for example. People often sing of losing a lover, then in another song on the same album will sing a love ballad to someone they have supposedly been with, and will love forever. Is that any more fake? Or Rock, where someone wants to consistently party in a song. Then again they will have a love ballad, meant for some women. Is that fake?

People sing different songs for different reasons, to different people.

tupac?
lil wayne?
eminem?
....REALLY?!?

you all must really like garbage pop rap.

sabac red and ill bill > eminem and 50....
ghostface and gza > pac and biggie...
easy e and ice cube > snoop and dre...

go home and listen to immortal technique and de la soul and learn yo self some real hip hop.

I think LL Cool J is one of the greatest of all time. I mean him and Russel simmons are mainly responsible for the elements in rap. "Don't Call it a come back, i been here for years"A_c_E

There it is. Took me most of the thread to find it and it's the guys third post. But a good one.

LL Cool J has staying power. He has been around since the Run DMC days and is a major influence on how rap progressed. Sure, he doesn't come out with new stuff very often but the fact is he is still known. His lyrics are at the center of what I think of when I think of rap. And he hasn't had to reinvent himself. He is pretty much the same for the most part. And his music still has relevance and appeal.

Nasty Nas is my all time favorite, but Blu is the best rapper atm imo.fat_rob

did you ever listen to the Johnson & Jonson album? I haven't.

Tupac is my favorite but I don't think he's as good, technically as other rappers

1.Biggie

2.Rakim

3.Tupac

4.Jay-Z

5.NaS

[QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"]

TUpac Shakur is the GOAT, noone comes close

Orlando_Magic

2. Crooked I

Crooked I is the sh it

i loved his freestyles, he needs to come up with an album

Jay-Z is definitely the G.O.A.T...Hes had more classics than any other artist.

Reasonable Doubt (Greatest album ever made)

Vol. 2 Hard Knock Life

The Dynasty (Album gets hated on so bad)

The Blueprint

The Blueprint 2

The Black Album

Kingdom Come

American Gangster

And The Blueprint 3 coming up this winter...I cant see anybody taking the number 1 spot but him.

tupac?
lil wayne?
eminem?
....REALLY?!?

you all must really like garbage pop rap.

sabac red and ill bill > eminem and 50....
ghostface and gza > pac and biggie...
easy e and ice cube > snoop and dre...

go home and listen to immortal technique and de la soul and learn yo self some real hip hop.

incred_davis

I laughed so hard...seriously, face and gza are good, don't get me wrong. But saying their better than pac and biggie is kinda foolish. And immortal technique is so over rated its not even funny.

Soulja Boy. He get 15 ceyunts if you comment his video! He a rich ass mothaf***a.

Im kidding. My vote probably goes to Eminem or Tupac. The greatest living rapper is probably Eminem, but the greatest ever is Tupa - The king of Rap

Jay-Z is definitely the G.O.A.T...Hes had more classics than any other artist.

Reasonable Doubt (Greatest album ever made)

Vol. 2 Hard Knock Life

The Dynasty (Album gets hated on so bad)

The Blueprint

The Blueprint 2

The Black Album

Kingdom Come

American Gangster

And The Blueprint 3 coming up this winter...I cant see anybody taking the number 1 spot but him.

thebosshank

i'm a jay-z fan and i know he only has 3 tops. Reasonable doubt,blueprint and black album. Blueprint 2 was horrible and kingdom come was wacka s hell

[QUOTE="thebosshank"]

Jay-Z is definitely the G.O.A.T...Hes had more classics than any other artist.

Reasonable Doubt (Greatest album ever made)

Vol. 2 Hard Knock Life

The Dynasty (Album gets hated on so bad)

The Blueprint

The Blueprint 2

The Black Album

Kingdom Come

American Gangster

And The Blueprint 3 coming up this winter...I cant see anybody taking the number 1 spot but him.

a

i'm a jay-z fan and i know he only has 3 tops. Reasonable doubt,blueprint and black album. Blueprint 2 was horrible and kingdom come was wacka s hell

Eh, I liked B2 and I dont see how people didnt like Kingdom Come...and what about American Gangster and Vol2?

[QUOTE="a"][QUOTE="thebosshank"]

Jay-Z is definitely the G.O.A.T...Hes had more classics than any other artist.

Reasonable Doubt (Greatest album ever made)

Vol. 2 Hard Knock Life

The Dynasty (Album gets hated on so bad)

The Blueprint

The Blueprint 2

The Black Album

Kingdom Come

American Gangster

And The Blueprint 3 coming up this winter...I cant see anybody taking the number 1 spot but him.

thebosshank

i'm a jay-z fan and i know he only has 3 tops. Reasonable doubt,blueprint and black album. Blueprint 2 was horrible and kingdom come was wacka s hell

Eh, I liked B2 and I dont see how people didnt like Kingdom Come...and what about American Gangster and Vol2?

casue it was the wack sauce. AG was good but if hov has benn slippin lately. If BP3 is on the black album's level than he really will be G.O.A.T

Soulja Boy. He get 15 ceyunts if you comment his video! He a rich ass mothaf***a.

Im kidding. My vote probably goes to Eminem or Tupac. The greatest living rapper is probably Eminem, but the greatest ever is Tupa - The king of Rap

Gaming_Samurai