The majority of people in the US Pro-Life for the first time in 15 years.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/More-Americans-Pro-Life-Than-Pro-Choice-First-Time.aspx

This is kind of ironic becuase we, by we I mean other people in the US, just elected the most pro-aboriton (he is, some people may be pro-choice but he is pro abortion) president ever, and possibly the most pro-abortion person in washington.

EDIT: Just so you know where I am comming from with this pro-abortion stuff: I believe that obama has at least one situation where he supported the woman getting an aboriton, and beucase he supports an abortion he is pro-abortion. Just like I believe that everyone that says that a baby that cannot be supported by his parents should be aborted are all pro-abortion.

Interesting. Well I'm still uhhh "pro-choice", although Im Canadian.

well Obama is on record of saying he would like to reduce teen pregnancy rates. Also the election comes down to more than just being pro-choice or pro-life.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/More-Americans-Pro-Life-Than-Pro-Choice-First-Time.aspx

This is kind of ironic becuase we, by we I mean other people in the US, just elected the most pro-aboriton (he is, some people may be pro-choice but he is pro abortion) president ever, and possibly the most pro-abortion person in washington.

Jacobistheman

In what way is Obama pro-abortion? He's pro-choice, certainly.

And, I personally am disappointed to see the results of this poll. Luckily, the Supreme Court has assured women this right.

Hah, you need to stop watching Fox ne- Oh...fidosim

Regardless of the fact that this poll doesn't have to do with FN (I know you know that), that's still good advice :P.

[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/More-Americans-Pro-Life-Than-Pro-Choice-First-Time.aspx

This is kind of ironic becuase we, by we I mean other people in the US, just elected the most pro-aboriton (he is, some people may be pro-choice but he is pro abortion) president ever, and possibly the most pro-abortion person in washington.

chessmaster1989

In what way is Obama pro-abortion? He's pro-choice, certainly.

And, I personally am disappointed to see the results of this poll. Luckily, the Supreme Court has assured women this right.

Yeah they are pro at taking rights away.

Mistakes happen, deformaties can occur, some people don't want to have children, etc. Taking potential life isn't the same as simply taking life, especially when it's just an embryo... The end. A fetus should not be entitled to rights, the same way my sperm isn't entitled to rights. It doesn't have a conscious. It only has rights once it has matured into a human being.

Hah, you need to stop watching Fox ne- Oh...fidosim

I don't see the laws changing. But optimism is admirable, too bad once the children are born welfare programs to assist them will be opposed by the same people that seemingly begged for their right to birth. So give them life but not assistance once they have it? "Morality" seems to have some contradictions in priority there. :?

Hah, you need to stop watching Fox ne- Oh...fidosim

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/More-Americans-Pro-Life-Than-Pro-Choice-First-Time.aspx

This is kind of ironic becuase we, by we I mean other people in the US, just elected the most pro-aboriton (he is, some people may be pro-choice but he is pro abortion) president ever, and possibly the most pro-abortion person in washington.

Jacobistheman

In what way is Obama pro-abortion? He's pro-choice, certainly.

And, I personally am disappointed to see the results of this poll. Luckily, the Supreme Court has assured women this right.

Link. And context. Please.

And, saying that he wants babies to die is probably one of the stupidest opinions I've ever heard.

sad isnt it.SaintLeonidas

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]sad isnt it.blackngold29

[QUOTE="fidosim"]Hah, you need to stop watching Fox ne- Oh...blackngold29

I don't see the laws changing. But optimism is admirable, too bad once the children are born welfare programs to assist them will be opposed by the same people that seemingly begged for their right to birth. So give them life but not assistance once they have it? "Morality" seems to have some contradictions in priority there. :?

warbmxjohn

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/More-Americans-Pro-Life-Than-Pro-Choice-First-Time.aspx

This is kind of ironic becuase we, by we I mean other people in the US, just elected the most pro-aboriton (he is, some people may be pro-choice but he is pro abortion) president ever, and possibly the most pro-abortion person in washington.

Jacobistheman

In what way is Obama pro-abortion? He's pro-choice, certainly.

And, I personally am disappointed to see the results of this poll. Luckily, the Supreme Court has assured women this right.

LOL. And why would Obama (or anyone else) "want babies to die"?

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]sad isnt it.BR1NG3R

Yeah they are pro at taking rights away.

Mistakes happen, deformaties can occur, some people don't want to have children, etc. Taking potential life isn't the same as simply taking life, especially when it's just an embryo... The end. A fetus should not be entitled to rights, the same way my sperm isn't entitled to rights. It doesn't have a conscious. It only has rights once it has matured into a human being.

BR1NG3R

I wish Pro-Life wasn'tequivalent with angry, narrow-minded and bigoted, but, sadly, in general it is. On the flip-side of that coin there is clueless, overly altruistic and equally bigoted Pro-Choicers. There is always a middle ground. We shouldn't be aborting 8 month old fetuses but we should also give women the right of choice.

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]sad isnt it.blackngold29

[QUOTE="BR1NG3R"][QUOTE="blackngold29"] If you consider keeping unborn babies alive sad, then yep it is.blackngold29

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]sad isnt it.SaintLeonidas

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"] If you consider keeping unborn babies alive sad, then yep it is.blackngold29

If you consider keeping unborn babies alive sad, then yep it is.blackngold29

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"] yes because from the moment of conception they are babies with thoughts, feelings and a conscience :roll: I think maybe you should do a little research on the growth process of the egg to a baby.BR1NG3R

[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]

I don't see the laws changing. But optimism is admirable, too bad once the children are born welfare programs to assist them will be opposed by the same people that seemingly begged for their right to birth. So give them life but not assistance once they have it? "Morality" seems to have some contradictions in priority there. :?

Jacobistheman

[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

In what way is Obama pro-abortion? He's pro-choice, certainly.

And, I personally am disappointed to see the results of this poll. Luckily, the Supreme Court has assured women this right.

chessmaster1989

Link. And context. Please.

And, saying that he wants babies to die is probably one of the stupidest opinions I've ever heard.

[QUOTE="BR1NG3R"][QUOTE="blackngold29"] Perhaps your definition of baby is different than mine....blackngold29

I wish Pro-Life wasn'tequivalent with angry, narrow-minded and bigoted, but, sadly, in general it is. On the flip-side of that coin there is clueless, overly altruistic and equally bigoted Pro-Choicers. There is always a middle ground. We shouldn't be aborting 8 month old fetuses but we should also give women the right of choice.

my_mortal_coil

There is only one definition. It's not an opinion. BR1NG3R

[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]

I don't see the laws changing. But optimism is admirable, too bad once the children are born welfare programs to assist them will be opposed by the same people that seemingly begged for their right to birth. So give them life but not assistance once they have it? "Morality" seems to have some contradictions in priority there. :?

warbmxjohn

I don't see the laws changing. But optimism is admirable, too bad once the children are born welfare programs to assist them will be opposed by the same people that seemingly begged for their right to birth. So give them life but not assistance once they have it? "Morality" seems to have some contradictions in priority there. :?

Chalk it up to reactionary right-wing sentiment. They just had a Democrat black dude elected, so what left are their avenues?! Freak out about fundamentalist BS...

well Obama is on record of saying he would like to reduce teen pregnancy rates. Also the election comes down to more than just being pro-choice or pro-life.

Serraph105

[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

In what way is Obama pro-abortion? He's pro-choice, certainly.

And, I personally am disappointed to see the results of this poll. Luckily, the Supreme Court has assured women this right.

TBoogy

LOL. And why would Obama (or anyone else) "want babies to die"?

Good. Hopefully Roe vs. Wade will be overthrown and abortion (that is, as a method of retro-active birth control) will become illegal.

Proving once and for all that the terms "pro-life" and "pro-choice" are meaningless rhetoric, considering that 76% of respondants said that abortion should be legal in all or certain circumstances.

Good. Hopefully Roe vs. Wade will be overthrown and abortion (that is, as a method of retro-active birth control) will become illegal.

foxhound_fox

Roe vs. Wade, HAHA, no one has or wants an abortion beyond seven months. They are committed by that point, or have aborted long ago!

Roe vs. Wade, HAHA, no one has or wants an abortion beyond seven months. They are committed by that point, or have aborted long ago!

spoofnutz

[QUOTE="spoofnutz"]Roe vs. Wade, HAHA, no one has or wants an abortion beyond seven months. They are committed by that point, or have aborted long ago!

foxhound_fox

More than likely, that person didnt change their mind about having a baby. They never wanted it, but could not afford an abortion. They are not free...

http://www.thoughtzone.net/this-is-what-happens-when-abortion-is-illegal/

Haha.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"] No he is pro abortion. He supported a bill in the Illinois state senate, he was the ONLY one, that made would have made legal for mothers to let their babies die after birth. This isn't an abortion but just shows you how much he wants babies to die. Jacobistheman

Link. And context. Please.

And, saying that he wants babies to die is probably one of the stupidest opinions I've ever heard.

I think you should do a little more research.

http://www.nysun.com/national/obama-facing-attacks-from-all-sides-over-abortion/84059/

[QUOTE="spoofnutz"]Roe vs. Wade, HAHA, no one has or wants an abortion beyond seven months. They are committed by that point, or have aborted long ago!

foxhound_fox

Abortion is not retro-active. Abortion legally takes place in the first three months of pregnancy, before the foetus is deemed sentient.

[QUOTE="spoofnutz"]Roe vs. Wade, HAHA, no one has or wants an abortion beyond seven months. They are committed by that point, or have aborted long ago!

foxhound_fox

I support partial birth abortions too. Call it what you will killing a fetus is not the same or even closeas mudering a human being.

Just because I support a womans right to choose doesn't mean I think abortion is cool. Its a painfull thing that is sometimes necesssary. I'm sure you disagree but at the moment I don't see anybody being tried for infantcide just because they terminated a pregancy. I hope it stays this way.