The most despicable people known to man.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

I know this has been mentioned before on these boards. But I felt like talking about it again. If you read about some of the things they did to innocent people, it just makes me sick to the stomach. They are truly the sickest group of people in history. I know the Holocaust was terrible and killed millions more people, Unit 731 beats it in sheer brutality. I can't believe this isn't more known. Most textbooks don't even mention it. So my question is, have you heard of them before? What do you think of their "experiments"? And can you think of any person or group that was more evil?

ps There is a Chinese movie about it called the Men Behind the Sun. You can look it up on Youtube. It's very graphic and disturbing.

[Edit] I should clarify that I'm not saying the Japanese people are evil. I mean to say that specifically Unit 731 is.

Yes I have heard of it and there's also an epic Russian film dealing with Unit 731 called "Philosophy of a Knife". The director attempts to expose the viewer to very long scenes of incredibly brutality in an attempt to explain how a human being can become numb to the whole process of horribly torturing another human being.

The saddest part is that the U.S. provided immunity from prosecution to the people that ran these camps in exchange for rather large amout of technical information that they had accrued during their various experiments heaped upon their victims. War does indeed blur the line between the good and the bad.

Who cares. USA FTW.

Who cares. USA FTW.

Johnny-n-Roger

I don't really feel like reading a wiki article this late in the night, so I'll just throw in my two cents and say to me, the Inquisition was the most despicable group of people in human history, just thinking about it makes me sick.

I'll probably read the article later, though, perhaps it'll change my mind?

I don't really feel like reading a wiki article this late in the night, so I'll just throw in my two cents and say to me, the Inquisition was the most despicable group of people in human history, just thinking about it makes me sick.

I'll probably read the article later, though, perhaps it'll change my mind?

black_cat19

and yet I almost feel as though WW2 was so messed up that I understand the concept of trying out extremely disgusting things on humans. It is certainly valuable as it is sickening.

The US let them go because they don't want the knowledge of bio-warfare fall into Soviet hands.

Who cares. USA FTW.

This is absolutely disgusting.

yes, the Japanese matched the SS both in sheer brutality to conquered people and complete indifference to the suffering they caused

Who cares. USA FTW.

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goth_bacon

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="nimatoad2000"] what is the purpose of this post?nimatoad2000

[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

I don't really feel like reading a wiki article this late in the night, so I'll just throw in my two cents and say to me, the Inquisition was the most despicable group of people in human history, just thinking about it makes me sick.

I'll probably read the article later, though, perhaps it'll change my mind?

nimatoad2000

Hmm, you're right, that didn't take long.

Somehow I still feel like killing and torturing people because of ideology is less justifiable than doing so for experimentation. Don't get me wrong, both are horrible and disgusting, but it's just the sheer stupidity of the Inquisition's motives that make their actions worse than the Unit's in my eyes.

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="black_cat19"]

I don't really feel like reading a wiki article this late in the night, so I'll just throw in my two cents and say to me, the Inquisition was the most despicable group of people in human history, just thinking about it makes me sick.

I'll probably read the article later, though, perhaps it'll change my mind?

black_cat19

Hmm, you're right, that didn't take long.

Somehow I still feel killing and torturing people because of ideology is less justifiable than doing so for experimentation. Don't get me wrong, both are horrible and disgusting, but it's just the sheer stupidity of the Inquisition's motives that make their actions worse than the Unit's in my eyes.

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="black_cat19"]

I don't really feel like reading a wiki article this late in the night, so I'll just throw in my two cents and say to me, the Inquisition was the most despicable group of people in human history, just thinking about it makes me sick.

I'll probably read the article later, though, perhaps it'll change my mind?

black_cat19

Hmm, you're right, that didn't take long.

Somehow I still feel killing and torturing people because of ideology is less justifiable than doing so for experimentation. Don't get me wrong, both are horrible and disgusting, but it's just the sheer stupidity of the Inquisition's motives that make their actions worse than the Unit's in my eyes.

I bet when the Nazi's read up on this... They looked at the person next to them and went "Damn.... Theses guys are more ****ed up than we are."

I bet when the Nazi's read up on this... They looked at the person next to them and went "Damn.... Theses guys are more ****ed up than we are."

Raikoh_

Nazi's had their messed up human experiments too. Don't know if they were more cruel or not though.

[QUOTE="Raikoh_"]

I bet when the Nazi's read up on this... They looked at the person next to them and went "Damn.... Theses guys are more ****ed up than we are."

Nifty_Shark

Nazi's had their messed up human experiments too. Don't know if they were more cruel or not though.

[QUOTE="black_cat19"]

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"] read the list of what they did right now. itll not take more than 3 minutes. just go down to what experiments they did. i have not heard anything even close to this magnitude. goth_bacon

Hmm, you're right, that didn't take long.

Somehow I still feel killing and torturing people because of ideology is less justifiable than doing so for experimentation. Don't get me wrong, both are horrible and disgusting, but it's just the sheer stupidity of the Inquisition's motives that make their actions worse than the Unit's in my eyes.

I think it does. Unit 731 was simply the triumph of cold science over ethics, and their experiments were that way because that's how science operates. It's just like experimentation on animals, cold science only cares about gathering data and then decoding that data to get results, until ethics come into the picture and remind us that as human beings we can't forsake the well-being of the subjects just for the sake of results.

It's the same with the inquisition, the triumph of dogma over freedom. They are equally inhumane and pragmatic, it's just that pure science has that quality of cold detatchment that seems so unnatural to us as human beings, and I bet if the inquisition had had the kind of resources the Unit was granted, the ensuing brutality would have been just as appaling.

I just think the Inquisition is less justifiable because they just killed people over lack of tolerance, while the unit, even if arguably more inhumane, killed people to gather data and achieve scientific results, so in the end, it is the Inquisition that comes off as killing people for no justifiable reason. At least that's what I think.

Thats insane. I had no clue. Ill have to check that film out. Thanks TC.

You can argue which motive for human torture/extermination is more justified, but the bottom line is that either party's disregard for human life and sufferingis not justifiable by any means. I don't see the argument here.

You guys should check out the film Men Behind The Sun, it's a pretty brutal movie about Unit 731

You can argue which motive for human torture/extermination is more justified, but the bottom line is that either party's disregard for human life and sufferingis not justifiable by any means. I don't see the argument here.

Johnny-n-Roger

You can argue which motive for human torture/extermination is more justified, but the bottom line is that either party's disregard for human life and sufferingis not justifiable by any means. I don't see the argument here.

Johnny-n-Roger

You can argue which motive for human torture/extermination is more justified, but the bottom line is that either party's disregard for human life and sufferingis not justifiable by any means. I don't see the argument here.

Johnny-n-Roger

I'm not arguing which is more jusified (neither can really be justified), I'm just arguing which one is more stupid, which in turn would make that particular case of extermination more disgusting in my eyes.

You can only objectively establish from a human point of view that human torture/extermination is not justifiable under any circumstances, anything beyond that is merely a value judgement based on the person's views, which is why I say that in MY eyes, the Inquisition was worse than Unit 731. I would also say that the Holocaust was worse than Unit 731 for pretty much the same reasons, and it's still only MY value judgement, nothing more.

Asians can be really scary especially the women.

(I can say this I am asian after all)

thst ****** up

yet interesting to read at the same time but still ****** up

Compare this to what US/France/Britain did to their own soldiers just after WW II.

Sure Japanese were more brutal towards POW and such,Russians were the same

but because they fought for '' Freedom '' their transgressions are somewhat different (i think not).

This was different time,ppl in general were different/tougher and prepared to do things that we look at and say hell no.

Geez, those guys were kinda mean...

Compare this to what US/France/Britain did to their own soldiers just after WW II.

Sure Japanese were more brutal towards POW and such,Russians were the same

but because they fought for '' Freedom '' their transgressions are somewhat different (i think not).

This was different time,ppl in general were different/tougher and prepared to do things that we look at and say hell no.

pecanin

Geez, those guys were kinda mean...

DJ-Lafleur

i think thats kind ofan understatement:P

Wow. That is messed up. I had never heard of them before. However, I think the most despicable person ever was Dr. Josef Mengele. Better known as the angel of death, and for good reason.

That is but one of the groups of people who practiced genocid or casual mass murder. Many dictatorships and more specifically U.S backed south american governments and The U.S army conducted chemical warfare (korea and vietnam being most famous wars in which chemicals were used*) and used depleted uranium shells in wars (the shells may be depleted but they do taint the ground and people around them significantly.) Also the U.S research teams were very fond of trying out their newest chemicals on U.S soldiers (and P.O.Ws of other nations) and Cubans mainly. also There were the incidents

Quote from a 600 scientific investigation team: "The peoples of China and Korea have indeed been the objectives of bacteorological weapons. these have been employed by units of the U.S.A armed forces using a great variety of different methodws for the purpose." (Just to prove Im not some conspiracy nutjob -_- Americans have been blind because of patriotism for over half a century.)

Fun fact: "agent orange, which is made up from a nearly indestructible pollutant (dioxin) that is regarded as one of the most toxic substances in the world. At least as toxic as nerve gas and highly carcinogenic...Three ounces in the water is enough to wipe out the population of New York City." The amount of agent orange used in Vietnam was "19 million gallons of Agent Orange were used in South Vietnam during the war..."

The U.S supported Pol Pot (leader of the Khmer Rouge) on his bid to take back cambodia from vietnam (the khmer rouge kept on massacring vietnamese towns on the borders causing Vietnam to invade cambodia.)

'From Haiti's infamous Duvaliers, to Cuba's Batista, there were no dictators too wretched, too violent, too vicious for the U.S. to support."

Stuff like that happened all throughtout the 20th century and half (at least) wouldn't have happened without the american foreign policy...

Those scientists should have been used for bio weapon, chemical weapon and firearm testing. Scum shouldn't go unpunished.

I noticed this a while back, it is truly disturbing, I can't understand how people can actually think of doing this. :?

That is but one of the groups of people who practiced genocid or casual mass murder. Many dictatorships and more specifically U.S backed south american governments and The U.S army conducted chemical warfare (korea and vietnam being most famous wars in which chemicals were used*) and used depleted uranium shells in wars (the shells may be depleted but they do taint the ground and people around them significantly.) Also the U.S research teams were very fond of trying out their newest chemicals on U.S soldiers (and P.O.Ws of other nations) and Cubans mainly. also There were the incidents

Quote from a 600 scientific investigation team: "The peoples of China and Korea have indeed been the objectives of bacteorological weapons. these have been employed by units of the U.S.A armed forces using a great variety of different methodws for the purpose." (Just to prove Im not some conspiracy nutjob -_- Americans have been blind because of patriotism for over half a century.)

Fun fact: "agent orange, which is made up from a nearly indestructible pollutant (dioxin) that is regarded as one of the most toxic substances in the world. At least as toxic as nerve gas and highly carcinogenic...Three ounces in the water is enough to wipe out the population of New York City." The amount of agent orange used in Vietnam was "19 million gallons of Agent Orange were used in South Vietnam during the war..."

The U.S supported Pol Pot (leader of the Khmer Rouge) on his bid to take back cambodia from vietnam (the khmer rouge kept on massacring vietnamese towns on the borders causing Vietnam to invade cambodia.)

'From Haiti's infamous Duvaliers, to Cuba's Batista, there were no dictators too wretched, too violent, too vicious for the U.S. to support."

Stuff like that happened all throughtout the 20th century and half (at least) wouldn't have happened without the american foreign policy...

lyeti

Who cares. USA FTW.

Johnny-n-Roger

Wow and I thought that nothing can top SS experiments in Auchwitz and Danzig.

I don't see how this is any worse than Auschwitz, Nagasaki and Hiroshima, The Inquisition etc.