The myth of manmade Global Warming

I booked a flight to go home and visit my family back in Pennsylvania through Cheaptickets, and on the final page before I confirmed my ticket they asked if I wanted to contribute money to buy carbon credits and offset the carbon footprint of my flight.

At which point, I fell out of my chair with laughter and enthusiastically clicked the "NO" button.

The myth of manmade Global Warming knows no bounds. I followed the trail of this so called "carbon credit offset" idea and found a website: CarbonCounter.org. There's an actual program where you can calculate your "Carbon footprint" and it conveniently lists how much money you have to give every year to help "save" the planet.:lol:

Manmade Global Warming was a myth created for two reasons: To allow government to over-reach into personal companies and businesses, and to turn CO2 into cash. It's a giant financial scam, I wonder if anyone actually falls for it though.

If you've given money to carbon credit offsets, please sound off and let us know why.

Man has an effect, all be it small on climate change.

It is moronic to attribute all of global warming to mankind. But if anything the government is introducing this to preserve oil, coal and natural gas, not to make money.

yes its a myth.....you are sooooo smart....next president right here fellas!swashbux

You do know that the ocean, forests and animals all produce more CO2 per year than Humans, it's natural and people are too blind to realise and just think "oh my we're producing loads of CO2, not wonder we're ***** the world up it's CO2!"

Hence people being annoyed that people are earning millions by getting money off gullible people who give money and who think turning there TV off for 6 hours is going to save the planet.

Is there global warming? Yes

Does man have anything to do with it? No (for the most part)

should we stop being environmentally conscious? NO.

[QUOTE="swashbux"]yes its a myth.....you are sooooo smart....next president right here fellas!Brainkiller05

You do know that the ocean, forests and animals all produce more CO2 per year than Humans, it's natural and people are too blind to realise and just think "oh my we're producing loads of CO2, not wonder we're ***** the world up it's CO2!"

Hence people being annoyed that people are earning millions by getting money off gullible people who give money and who think turning there TV off for 6 hours is going to save the planet.

Shocking that 1 speices can produce a comparable ammount to every other speices alive.

while global warming can be disputed by some people, the health impact of a polluted planet cannot. are you vain enough to believe that your existence has no impact on the earth? that your actions don't create waste that needs to be dealt with somehow?

i understand that the thought that our very existence is actually destroying the planet is an uncomfortable one, and that laughing at things like the efforts of organizations such as these probably gives you comfort. But it doesn't change the fact that the more of us there are on this planet, the more we need to change our thinking.

these groups calculate how much energy a person is using, and then gives you the option to do something about it. No one is forcing you to partake, but they are giving you the option to live consciously... and maybe actually think about the way you live at the same time.

sometimes it's about more than just money.

You do know that forests produce CO2Brainkiller05

yes its a myth.....you are sooooo smart....next president right here fellas!swashbux

Ho! Ho! Get it? Because he not next president at all! Ho! Ho!

[QUOTE="swashbux"]yes its a myth.....you are sooooo smart....next president right here fellas!Brainkiller05

You do know that the ocean, forests and animals all produce more CO2 per year than Humans, it's natural and people are too blind to realise and just think "oh my we're producing loads of CO2, not wonder we're ***** the world up it's CO2!"

Hence people being annoyed that people are earning millions by getting money off gullible people who give money and who think turning there TV off for 6 hours is going to save the planet.

so, by that logic then... these two things are equal?

[QUOTE="swashbux"]yes its a myth.....you are sooooo smart....next president right here fellas!Brainkiller05

You do know that the ocean, forests and animals all produce more CO2 per year than Humans, it's natural and people are too blind to realise and just think "oh my we're producing loads of CO2, not wonder we're ***** the world up it's CO2!"

Hence people being annoyed that people are earning millions by getting money off gullible people who give money and who think turning there TV off for 6 hours is going to save the planet.

wait doesnt the ocean take in carbon hence the name-Carbon sink, and Trees produce oxygen not carbon.

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]You do know that forests produce CO2dooly420

Interestingly enough, its actually true. Plants actually emit carbon dioxide while respirating, so while they are not growing, they actually release more carbon dioxide than they absorb. However, most forests are still carbon sinks so I doubt that they actually have an overall negative effect on the greenhouse gas effect ( I myself have never cared enough about this to research it...).

[QUOTE="swashbux"]yes its a myth.....you are sooooo smart....next president right here fellas!Brainkiller05

You do know that the ocean, forests and animals all produce more CO2 per year than Humans, it's natural and people are too blind to realise and just think "oh my we're producing loads of CO2, not wonder we're ***** the world up it's CO2!"

Hence people being annoyed that people are earning millions by getting money off gullible people who give money and who think turning there TV off for 6 hours is going to save the planet.

Exactly. And it's people like Al Gore, DiCaprio, Kanye West, Garth Brooks, hundreds upon hundreds of celebrities that act all concerned about the Earth and then fly to events about Global Warming in their Gulfstream private jets. These losers polute more in one month then people like you or I do in an entire year.

Look, Al Gore was worth an estimated 7 million dollars in 2000. He currently has a net worth over 100 mil. It's obvious to see how well he's doing financially because of this bs movie he made. IT ISN'T REAL PEOPLE.

The creator of the Weather Channel along with hundreds of meteorologists are trying to sue Al Gore over his movie and have tremendous data proving how blown out of proportion this whole scam is. Open your eyes already. Either that, or invest in these carbon credit companies.:D

Even if global warming is a myth, carbon emission is still pollution, among the many other problems associated with fossil fuels. Also, your parents are jerks for raising you with such ignorance, it's really sad.Darth_Tyrev

I hate you, I love my current sig, but now I'm thiking about changing...

while global warming can be disputed by some people, the health impact of a polluted planet cannot. are you vain enough to believe that your existence has no impact on the earth? that your actions don't create waste that needs to be dealt with somehow?

i understand that the thought that our very existence is actually destroying the planet is an uncomfortable one, and that laughing at things like the efforts of organizations such as these probably gives you comfort. But it doesn't change the fact that the more of us there are on this planet, the more we need to change our thinking.

these groups calculate how much energy a person is using, and then gives you the option to do something about it. No one is forcing you to partake, but they are giving you the option to live consciously... and maybe actually think about the way you live at the same time.

sometimes it's about more than just money.

-starman-

Not to Al Gore and all his liberal cronies;)

We do have an affect, you can't deny that though the size of that effect is very small

People should be a bit more eco friendly anyway, things like recycling and using less energy are good for your money. The UK goverment seems to have gone completely overboard, all new houses in the near future will have to be carbon neutral and things like that.

The Ocean is actually the biggest "producer" of CO2. And dying vegetation and animals etc. is what produces a lot too.

But the point is that we are pumping in unnecessary extra CO2, and even if it doesn' t contribute that much, it's still polluting our planet.

Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :Pduxup

I thought the only silly people that believed the mis-information produced by 'think-tanks' set up by big polluting businesses, were people over 60 who listen to talk back radio. Not the future generations of supposed socially aware youth.

We do have an affect, you can't deny that though the size of that effect is very small

People should be a bit more eco friendly anyway, things like recycling and using less energy are good for your money. The UK goverment seems to have gone completely overboard, all new houses in the near future will have to be carbon neutral and things like that.

markop2003

Exactly Markop, well put. See, and this is where people constantly try to flame me and say I'm an idiot because I don't believe in the vision of Global Climate Change that the media wants to create. Of course we need to be as eco friendly as possible. But not at the cost of a global economic meltdown, and I'm **** sure not giving my hardearned money to some carbon credit company in the hopes they'll plant some trees for me. I can plant trees myself, I've already started. Landscaping is a lotta fun:D

[QUOTE="duxup"]Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :PFignewton50

He was agreeing with me Fig:P

I booked a flight to go home and visit my family back in Pennsylvania through Cheaptickets, and on the final page before I confirmed my ticket they asked if I wanted to contribute money to buy carbon credits and offset the carbon footprint of my flight.

At which point, I fell out of my chair with laughter and enthusiastically clicked the "NO" button.

The myth of manmade Global Warming knows no bounds. I followed the trail of this so called "carbon credit offset" idea and found a website: CarbonCounter.org. There's an actual program where you can calculate your "Carbon footprint" and it conveniently lists how much money you have to give every year to help "save" the planet.:lol:

Manmade Global Warming was a myth created for two reasons: To allow government to over-reach into personal companies and businesses, and to turn CO2 into cash. It's a giant financial scam, I wonder if anyone actually falls for it though.

If you've given money to carbon credit offsets, please sound off and let us know why.

MarineJcksn

If its not mans fault, then why the big hole in the north pole and the abnormal changes in climate, humidity and weather?

I booked a flight to go home and visit my family back in Pennsylvania through Cheaptickets, and on the final page before I confirmed my ticket they asked if I wanted to contribute money to buy carbon credits and offset the carbon footprint of my flight.

At which point, I fell out of my chair with laughter and enthusiastically clicked the "NO" button.

The myth of manmade Global Warming knows no bounds. I followed the trail of this so called "carbon credit offset" idea and found a website: CarbonCounter.org. There's an actual program where you can calculate your "Carbon footprint" and it conveniently lists how much money you have to give every year to help "save" the planet.:lol:

Manmade Global Warming was a myth created for two reasons: To allow government to over-reach into personal companies and businesses, and to turn CO2 into cash. It's a giant financial scam, I wonder if anyone actually falls for it though.

If you've given money to carbon credit offsets, please sound off and let us know why.

MarineJcksn

If you watch "The Great Global Warming Swindle" it gives you both sides of the story and gives you evidence on why we are not the main culprit behind the heating. I used to fully believe that we caused global warming because there was an apparent consensus that we caused it, but after seeing more evidence i learned that all of this is just a big scam.

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]You do know that forests produce CO2dooly420

If its not mans fault, then why the big hole in the north pole and the abnormal changes in climate, humidity and weather?

Montaya

What abnormal changes in weather? Just because there's irregular weather patterns lately, everyone's quick to cry out "global warming!". How long have people been recording weather patterns for? 200 years, thereabouts? I'm sure there's been plenty of freak weather changes throughout Earth's history, but people are totally ignorant to it.

Take where I live in Australia for example. We're an arid country, but the east cost where I live suffered a drought that lasted some 5 odd years. So what does the media say? This prolonged drought is a sign of global warming. Complete and utter BS. It was nothing more than the El Nino effect (Southern Oscillation) which is a natural phenomena here. The only reason our dams dropped to a critical 30% was because Sydney's population is expanding faster than water supplies can sustain.

And guess what? This past summer we had more rain than any summer in the past 6 years (Which is roughly how long the drought lasted) and was one of the wettest summers I can ever remember (where it's usually stinking hot). So what do people think? Climate change? Wrong again. The drought broke, then the La Nina effect came in to place (the opposite of the drought).

This whole idea of manmade global warming is a sham. That said, we should do everything in our power to reduce pollution, but the media has everyone in hysterics. There are two huge things I notice that people fail to realise:
1. The Medieval warm period, which was long before the industrial revolution and average global temperatures were slightly hotter than they are even now (in fact, recent warming trends are miniscule to Earth's history).
2. An impending ice age, which are reocurring events in history, so perhaps these extra C02 emissions will counter that so we don't all freeze to death from global cooling.

It's pretty much accepted that global warming is happening. The only problem is: How bad will it be.thnickaman13

Don't believe everything you hear in the liberal media. A large portion of the scientific community doesn't accept or agree with it.

The earth's atmosphere is a very very large system. It extends from below the ground a few feet to over 20 miles up. Its volume is staggering. It is affected by things as close as volcanos, to something as far away as the sun. As an engineer, I can tell you that even with the computing capacity we have today, we don't have anywhere near the ability to accurately model the earth's atmosphere. We don't even fully understand all the variables involved that affect it. We don't have any way to measure how much water falls from the sky to the ground around the earth on a given day, week, month. We don't even know how to begin to calculate an approximation of it. Same goes for cloud cover, geothermal energy/gas releases, etc etc. All these things make up just a part of the atmosphere's feedback mechanisms. Furthermore, we have such an extremely limited perspective on the earth's climate from the standpoint of time. Our recorded history goes back maybe 5000 years. That is less than a blink of an eye relative to the earth's age. Yes, we have some ability to look further back than our recorded history via ice cores and the rock record, but that only gives us data points, not context as to what might have been responsible for the data.

My bottom line is this: It is the ultimate arrogance for man to assume that he is even a significant driving force in the overall climate of this planet. That doesn't mean we should all be stupid and irresponsible and pollute as much as we want. It does mean that we can continue to improve our standard of living by harnessing the energy sources available to us, while continuing to decrease the amount of waste we discard back in to nature.

And finally, any group of people that try to convince me that one of the gases I naturally exhale (CO2) is a pollutant gets no respect from me. Either you are an idiot, or you think I am and are trying to take advantage of that fact to abuse me somehow. Mount Pinatubo (spelling?) in the Phillipines erupted back in the late 80's, early 90's. It spewed more CO2 in to the atmosphere in 2 weeks than man has produced since the beginning of the industrial revolution. The result? Increased foliage around the world. Plants thrive on CO2 and emit O2 in return.

I know you younger folks are especially getting this man-made global warming crap rammed down your throats. And it seems appealing to believe it and then go around telling older people how your generation gets it and will save the planet from the previous generation's misuse. Just do yourself a favor and keep an open mind. There are people out there that will mislead you in order to advance their own agenda.

"If you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're 40, you have no brain." - Winston Churchill.

So let me get this straight...Al Gore being rich proves that humans don't contribute to global warming?

Am I the only one who doesn't see how that follows?

So let me get this straight...Al Gore being rich proves that humans don't contribute to global warming?

Am I the only one who doesn't see how that follows?

MrGeezer

Nooooo, him being FAR richer than what he was 8 years ago shows that his pro-environmental campaigning made him a lot of money. And what do you say to the fact that, over several hundreds/thousands of years, the last 50 or so years have been merely a blip in world temperature in history? How do we know for sure that this is mankind's doing?

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

So let me get this straight...Al Gore being rich proves that humans don't contribute to global warming?

Am I the only one who doesn't see how that follows?

ineedanap

Nooooo, him being FAR richer than what he was 8 years ago shows that his pro-environmental campaigning made him a lot of money. And what do you say to the fact that, over several hundreds/thousands of years, the last 50 or so years have been merely a blip in world temperature in history? How do we know for sure that this is mankind's doing?

Uh...so how does Al Gore making money prove that humans aren't contributing to global warming?

Man has an effect, all be it small on climate change.

It is moronic to attribute all of global warming to mankind. But if anything the government is introducing this to preserve oil, coal and natural gas, not to make money.

Samwel_X

best post yet.

[QUOTE="thnickaman13"]It's pretty much accepted that global warming is happening. The only problem is: How bad will it be.MarineJcksn

Don't believe everything you hear in the liberal media. A large portion of the scientific community doesn't accept or agree with it.

Seeing as you guys are against anything that comes from the democratic party, and extremely for any conservative ideal in just about every political topic I see posted.. I don't think any one is going to take you seriously you seem extremely bias and a waste of time to debate with.

I also find it stupid that you guys are immediately putting down the possibility.. We don't have enough research or knownledge in the climatology to make that assertion.. Even then we have alot of reputable science organizations that do say man may be having affects on our climbate.. Even the panel of scientists put together by BUsh to debunk man made global warming, came back and showed the exact opposite that there is the possibility global warming is happening and man may be having som affects on it,

Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :Pduxup

he's not correcting science... the only people who are pushing global warming have an agenda... Real scientists who are actually looking into the facts know it's a farce..

[QUOTE="duxup"]Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :Pjlh47

he's not correcting science... the only people who are pushing global warming have an agenda... Real scientists who are actually looking into the facts know it's a farce..

So basically...the IPCC is wrong, according to you.