The myth of manmade Global Warming

[QUOTE="jlh47"]

[QUOTE="duxup"]Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :Pjointed

he's not correcting science... the only people who are pushing global warming have an agenda... Real scientists who are actually looking into the facts know it's a farce..

So basically...the IPCC is wrong, according to you.

Apparently, as well as the Union of concerned Scientists, and other huge well known organizations..

[QUOTE="jlh47"]

[QUOTE="duxup"]Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :Pjointed

he's not correcting science... the only people who are pushing global warming have an agenda... Real scientists who are actually looking into the facts know it's a farce..

So basically...the IPCC is wrong, according to you.

look at everyone saying that we need to change the environment and all that good stuff. they've all made money off of it. do the celebrities still have private jets? yes. are the scientists that "proved" it changing the way they emit carbon? no. the only people changing are these gullable people who follow celebrities like their life depended on it.

we need to be aware of it yes, but to think that we have this much of an impact is just stupid...

Obviously man didn't create all of global warming, but we have had an impact, and we can take steps to try to hault our impact. There is enough proof to show that we are a small part of a big problem, but that doesnt mean we should just ignore it.SaintLeonidas

best.. tv show.. ever..

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="jlh47"]

[QUOTE="duxup"]Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :Pjlh47

he's not correcting science... the only people who are pushing global warming have an agenda... Real scientists who are actually looking into the facts know it's a farce..

So basically...the IPCC is wrong, according to you.

look at everyone saying that we need to change the environment and all that good stuff. they've all made money off of it. do the celebrities still have private jets? yes. are the scientists that "proved" it changing the way they emit carbon? no. the only people changing are these gullable people who follow celebrities like their life depended on it.

we need to be aware of it yes, but to think that we have this much of an impact is just stupid...

Sooo, when are you going to prove your point? :roll:

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="jlh47"]

[QUOTE="duxup"]Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :Pjlh47

he's not correcting science... the only people who are pushing global warming have an agenda... Real scientists who are actually looking into the facts know it's a farce..

So basically...the IPCC is wrong, according to you.

look at everyone saying that we need to change the environment and all that good stuff. they've all made money off of it. do the celebrities still have private jets? yes. are the scientists that "proved" it changing the way they emit carbon? no. the only people changing are these gullable people who follow celebrities like their life depended on it.

we need to be aware of it yes, but to think that we have this much of an impact is just stupid...

Wait could you please explain to eveyr one here how they are making money off global warming.. Because what we have seen to every solution will cost EVERY one money.. And I can't help but think the fossil fuel industry is having a affect on this.. It took a helluva alot of time to prove that tobbacco products were harmful due to the industry making so much information, bribes etc etc.. And some how we do not expect the fossil fuel industries, infinitly more wealthy to not have affect at all..

From what we have seen there is no money to gain from this what so ever... Gore is not some creator of a different fossil fuel.. Nor is he have huge stocks in corporations.. Sure it could be for politicial gain, BUT he has been adovating this for 2 decades.. And he didn't even mention it in his presidential election for crying out loud..

Like I'm going to take your word for it over climatogists....

Well, I see four possible scenerios in the future regarding this topic.

Either it does exist and we recognize this threat and deal with it, and as a result have minimal damage.

We do something and it turns out not to be real, no real consequences there other than getting off of forein oil and leading in technologies.

It turns out not to be real, and we do nothing, so we end up fine.

It turns out to be real and we do nothing. As a result, we face untold climate changes, deserts will grow, sea levels will rise, certain ecosystems will no longer be able to support certain species of animals and plants, severly damaging our food supply. Millions would starve, wars would break out over dwindling money and resorces, economies would collapse under the strain, ect ect.

When we consider the consequences, I think the only logical thing to do here is to try to solve the problem. Pretending it doesn't exist for political reasons won't help anybody.

scientists are wrong or lying because other people people make money from it?

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="jlh47"]

[QUOTE="duxup"]Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :Pjlh47

he's not correcting science... the only people who are pushing global warming have an agenda... Real scientists who are actually looking into the facts know it's a farce..

So basically...the IPCC is wrong, according to you.

look at everyone saying that we need to change the environment and all that good stuff. they've all made money off of it. do the celebrities still have private jets? yes. are the scientists that "proved" it changing the way they emit carbon? no. the only people changing are these gullable people who follow celebrities like their life depended on it.

we need to be aware of it yes, but to think that we have this much of an impact is just stupid...

MarineJcksn, unless you have at least a Masters degree in any biological or chemical science, you are not allowed to have a reliable opinion. I just want to throw it out there for you to know. (I'm assuming you don't).

But regardless of your lack of belief for a completely credible and evidence based study, I'm gonna go ahead and take the opinions of these people seriously. Quit being distorted from the bible bashing, warmongers and look at things from a distance and call things down the middle rather than remaining in your corner of the ring. ;)

[QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="jlh47"]

[QUOTE="duxup"]Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :PsSubZerOo

he's not correcting science... the only people who are pushing global warming have an agenda... Real scientists who are actually looking into the facts know it's a farce..

So basically...the IPCC is wrong, according to you.

look at everyone saying that we need to change the environment and all that good stuff. they've all made money off of it. do the celebrities still have private jets? yes. are the scientists that "proved" it changing the way they emit carbon? no. the only people changing are these gullable people who follow celebrities like their life depended on it.

we need to be aware of it yes, but to think that we have this much of an impact is just stupid...

Wait could you please explain to eveyr one here how they are making money off global warming.. Because what we have seen to every solution will cost EVERY one money.. And I can't help but think the fossil fuel industry is having a affect on this.. It took a helluva alot of time to prove that tobbacco products were harmful due to the industry making so much information, bribes etc etc.. And some how we do not expect the fossil fuel industries, infinitly more wealthy to not have affect at all..

From what we have seen there is no money to gain from this what so ever... Gore is not some creator of a different fossil fuel.. Nor is he have huge stocks in corporations.. Sure it could be for politicial gain, BUT he has been adovating this for 2 decades.. And he didn't even mention it in his presidential election for crying out loud..

al gore has made 90 million dollars from this... how much has he spent to help it? none...

all i see are celebrities saying you need to donate this much money to save the environment. do you see them doing anything about it? no.

http://www.infowars.com/?p=805

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="jlh47"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="jlh47"]

[QUOTE="duxup"]Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :Pjlh47

he's not correcting science... the only people who are pushing global warming have an agenda... Real scientists who are actually looking into the facts know it's a farce..

So basically...the IPCC is wrong, according to you.

look at everyone saying that we need to change the environment and all that good stuff. they've all made money off of it. do the celebrities still have private jets? yes. are the scientists that "proved" it changing the way they emit carbon? no. the only people changing are these gullable people who follow celebrities like their life depended on it.

we need to be aware of it yes, but to think that we have this much of an impact is just stupid...

Wait could you please explain to eveyr one here how they are making money off global warming.. Because what we have seen to every solution will cost EVERY one money.. And I can't help but think the fossil fuel industry is having a affect on this.. It took a helluva alot of time to prove that tobbacco products were harmful due to the industry making so much information, bribes etc etc.. And some how we do not expect the fossil fuel industries, infinitly more wealthy to not have affect at all..

From what we have seen there is no money to gain from this what so ever... Gore is not some creator of a different fossil fuel.. Nor is he have huge stocks in corporations.. Sure it could be for politicial gain, BUT he has been adovating this for 2 decades.. And he didn't even mention it in his presidential election for crying out loud..

al gore has made 90 million dollars from this... how much has he spent to help it? none...

all i see are celebrities saying you need to donate this much money to save the environment. do you see them doing anything about it? no.

http://www.infowars.com/?p=805

He has made it with a documentry which he has used to donate to organizations.. That being said most rational people don't listen to celebrities and think global warming is true.. FOr instance I think global warming may be a possibility with what alot of renowned organizations and scientists through research have found..

Actually, I feel like throwing myself into the ring too. You see this global warming thing? Even if it is not true, or even if humans do not play a significant part of the global warming process, don't you think that shouldn't matter?

Wouldn't you LIKE to pay less on your gas and electricity bills in the long run with better insulated homes?

Wouldn't you like a flourishing, plant & animal rich Amazon rainforest rather than furlongs or desolation?

Rather than huge, ugly holes in the ground from aluminium, tin and copper extraction, wouldn't it just be better to recycle unused metals?

It just makes more sense to be greener.

[QUOTE="thnickaman13"]It's pretty much accepted that global warming is happening. The only problem is: How bad will it be.MarineJcksn

Don't believe everything you hear in the liberal media. A large portion of the scientific community doesn't accept or agree with it.

Wait...are people still doubting the fact that industrial emissions have a large impact on climate change?jointed

They have an impact on the earth but the farce of man-made global warming is filled with outright lies. Look at the ocean floor studies just conducted by NASA scientists recently where they found unargueable truth that the ocean hasn't risen in temperature. Look at the studies by scientists who conclude that global warming ended 10 years ago? Look at the historical data.

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[QUOTE="thnickaman13"]It's pretty much accepted that global warming is happening. The only problem is: How bad will it be.yoshi-lnex

Don't believe everything you hear in the liberal media. A large portion of the scientific community doesn't accept or agree with it.

Are you Al Gore in disguise? He actually said the amount of people who don't believe in man-made global warming is "Probably as small as the amount of people who think the US faked the moon landing."

6% of the US said they think the moon landing was a fake.

63% said they didn't believe in man-man global warming having the effect on the earth that they're hyping. This number includes hundreds of scientists, meteorologists, large majorities of NASA.

Ooops. Pwned:lol:

while global warming can be disputed by some people, the health impact of a polluted planet cannot. are you vain enough to believe that your existence has no impact on the earth? that your actions don't create waste that needs to be dealt with somehow?

i understand that the thought that our very existence is actually destroying the planet is an uncomfortable one, and that laughing at things like the efforts of organizations such as these probably gives you comfort. But it doesn't change the fact that the more of us there are on this planet, the more we need to change our thinking.

these groups calculate how much energy a person is using, and then gives you the option to do something about it. No one is forcing you to partake, but they are giving you the option to live consciously... and maybe actually think about the way you live at the same time.

sometimes it's about more than just money.

-starman-

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[QUOTE="thnickaman13"]It's pretty much accepted that global warming is happening. The only problem is: How bad will it be.sSubZerOo

Don't believe everything you hear in the liberal media. A large portion of the scientific community doesn't accept or agree with it.

Seeing as you guys are against anything that comes from the democratic party, and extremely for any conservative ideal in just about every political topic I see posted.. I don't think any one is going to take you seriously you seem extremely bias and a waste of time to debate with.

I also find it stupid that you guys are immediately putting down the possibility.. We don't have enough research or knownledge in the climatology to make that assertion.. Even then we have alot of reputable science organizations that do say man may be having affects on our climbate.. Even the panel of scientists put together by BUsh to debunk man made global warming, came back and showed the exact opposite that there is the possibility global warming is happening and man may be having som affects on it,

Hmm, maybe because hundreds of scientific studies dis-prove it? Look at the research on both ends, rather then just watching The Robot's powerpoint "movie"

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="jlh47"]

[QUOTE="duxup"]Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :PsSubZerOo

he's not correcting science... the only people who are pushing global warming have an agenda... Real scientists who are actually looking into the facts know it's a farce..

So basically...the IPCC is wrong, according to you.

Apparently, as well as the Union of concerned Scientists, and other huge well known organizations..

Not only did many scientists sue to get their names removed from the report but here is a link to petition from almost 20,000 scientists trying to get man-made global warming declared as a hoax.

http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p1845.htm

[QUOTE="swashbux"]yes its a myth.....you are sooooo smart....next president right here fellas!Brainkiller05

You do know that the ocean, forests and animals all produce more CO2 per year than Humans, it's natural and people are too blind to realise and just think "oh my we're producing loads of CO2, not wonder we're ***** the world up it's CO2!"

That doesn't mean that we don't have an effect, think about contributions say over a century, these little yearly focused calculators tell us nothing. If there isn't even one scientist out there that would agree that humans have no affect whatsoever on global warming, we are the rulers of the land, and we are slowly killing off species and forests to the point where they won't any scapegoats to blame the earth's condition...Your assessment is indeed irrelevant, even if you are correct, and if I remember correctly plants take in take in a lot more CO2 than they give out.

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[QUOTE="thnickaman13"]It's pretty much accepted that global warming is happening. The only problem is: How bad will it be.MarineJcksn

Don't believe everything you hear in the liberal media. A large portion of the scientific community doesn't accept or agree with it.

Are you Al Gore in disguise? He actually said the amount of people who don't believe in man-made global warming is "Probably as small as the amount of people who think the US faked the moon landing."

6% of the US said they think the moon landing was a fake.

63% said they didn't believe in man-man global warming having the effect on the earth that they're hyping. This number includes hundreds of scientists, meteorologists, large majorities of NASA.

Ooops. Pwned:lol:

I'm not a fan of this nutty conservative belief that so long as 1% of scientists ignore global warming, then it doesn't exist.

and you claimed that conservatives used more logic than liberals, give me a break. Ignoring evidence for political gain isn't logical on your part. Acknowledging that global warming exists is.

[QUOTE="jointed"]Wait...are people still doubting the fact that industrial emissions have a large impact on climate change?MarineJcksn

They have an impact on the earth but the farce of man-made global warming is filled with outright lies. Look at the ocean floor studies just conducted by NASA scientists recently where they found unargueable truth that the ocean hasn't risen in temperature. Look at the studies by scientists who conclude that global warming ended 10 years ago? Look at the historical data.

It's pretty easy to find information for global warming, but I never see any evidence disputing it...hmmmm

those charts were produced by nasa, and we all know that marine jackson knows much more about science than people with phd.s from the best universities in the nation....as you put it...pwned.

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

[QUOTE="thnickaman13"]It's pretty much accepted that global warming is happening. The only problem is: How bad will it be.yoshi-lnex

Don't believe everything you hear in the liberal media. A large portion of the scientific community doesn't accept or agree with it.

Are you Al Gore in disguise? He actually said the amount of people who don't believe in man-made global warming is "Probably as small as the amount of people who think the US faked the moon landing."

6% of the US said they think the moon landing was a fake.

63% said they didn't believe in man-man global warming having the effect on the earth that they're hyping. This number includes hundreds of scientists, meteorologists, large majorities of NASA.

Ooops. Pwned:lol:

I'm not a fan of this nutty conservative belief that so long as 1% of scientists ignore global warming, then it doesn't exist.

and you claimed that conservatives used more logic than liberals, give me a break. Ignoring evidence for political gain isn't logical on your part. Acknowledging that global warming exists is.

George Bush even had to own up that Global Warming does exist, whether or not we are to blame is irrevelant, because changes indeed do have to be made.

To think that man has nothing to do with global warming is ridiculous. nintendorocks

Exactly, why are people still questioning this?

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

[QUOTE="thnickaman13"]It's pretty much accepted that global warming is happening. The only problem is: How bad will it be.HiResDes

Don't believe everything you hear in the liberal media. A large portion of the scientific community doesn't accept or agree with it.

Are you Al Gore in disguise? He actually said the amount of people who don't believe in man-made global warming is "Probably as small as the amount of people who think the US faked the moon landing."

6% of the US said they think the moon landing was a fake.

63% said they didn't believe in man-man global warming having the effect on the earth that they're hyping. This number includes hundreds of scientists, meteorologists, large majorities of NASA.

Ooops. Pwned:lol:

I'm not a fan of this nutty conservative belief that so long as 1% of scientists ignore global warming, then it doesn't exist.

and you claimed that conservatives used more logic than liberals, give me a break. Ignoring evidence for political gain isn't logical on your part. Acknowledging that global warming exists is.

George Bush even had to own up that Global Warming does exist, whether or not we are to blame is irrevelant, because changes indeed do have to be made.

1) Al Gore said in his movie that 1% of the scientists that HE surveyed disagree. FYI a person can make data seem like anything.

2) Of course George Bush said that it exists. If any politician disagrees with it, they wont be any more popular, why? The media has made global warming into a huge scare.

3) I do agree that things need to change.

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

[QUOTE="jointed"]Wait...are people still doubting the fact that industrial emissions have a large impact on climate change?yoshi-lnex

They have an impact on the earth but the farce of man-made global warming is filled with outright lies. Look at the ocean floor studies just conducted by NASA scientists recently where they found unargueable truth that the ocean hasn't risen in temperature. Look at the studies by scientists who conclude that global warming ended 10 years ago? Look at the historical data.

It's pretty easy to find information for global warming, but I never see any evidence disputing it...hmmmm

those charts were produced by nasa, and we all know that marine jackson knows much more about science than people with phd.s from the best universities in the nation....as you put it...pwned.

Funny how you haven't provided a link to the study by Nasa indicating that the oceans are in fact not warming, due to the fact they've sent robotics into the ocean to take temperature readings and compaired it with historical data.

Next I'll suppose you'll point to the recent ice shelf that broke off in antarctica as "proof" of man-made global warming:lol:

My biggest beef with the whole idea is how its portrayed as a solely US problem, and the US needs to lead the world in solving it. China and India produce more polution then any other nations on Earth, why isn't the global warming crowd outraged at them?

My biggest beef with the whole idea is how its portrayed as a solely US problem, and the US needs to lead the world in solving it. China and India produce more polution then any other nations on Earth, why isn't the global warming crowd outraged at them?

MarineJcksn

Why do you think they aren't? China has been under increasing global pressure to imrpove it's industrial pollution. The government is only letting scientists to come in and try to help very recently.

Have you seen all the steps China is taking to improve their air quality and pollution levels to prepare for the Olympics?

[QUOTE="Fignewton50"][QUOTE="duxup"]Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :PMarineJcksn

He was agreeing with me Fig:P

Ha, no he wasn't.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="jlh47"]

[QUOTE="duxup"]Once again some guy on the Gamespot OT forum successfully corrects all of science... :Pjehuty12

he's not correcting science... the only people who are pushing global warming have an agenda... Real scientists who are actually looking into the facts know it's a farce..

So basically...the IPCC is wrong, according to you.

Apparently, as well as the Union of concerned Scientists, and other huge well known organizations..

Not only did many scientists sue to get their names removed from the report but here is a link to petition from almost 20,000 scientists trying to get man-made global warming declared as a hoax.

http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p1845.htm

Dude, get your facts straight before you post that BS. Those aren't scientists at all. It's supposedly anyone with atleast a college degree in a physical science major. Nice try though... :lol:

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

My biggest beef with the whole idea is how its portrayed as a solely US problem, and the US needs to lead the world in solving it. China and India produce more polution then any other nations on Earth, why isn't the global warming crowd outraged at them?

Fignewton50

Why do you think they aren't? China has been under increasing global pressure to imrpove it's industrial pollution. The government is only letting scientists to come in and try to help very recently.

Have you seen all the steps China is taking to improve their air quality and pollution levels to prepare for the Olympics?

Nice try Gore, I knew you were behind these posts!:lol: