The purpose of life is passing information from generation to generation to evolve in every aspect
@schu:
Also, I never said "it is narcissistic to say who can assign meaning to life." You don't seem to understand what you've read. I think that person would be wrong, but not necessarily a narcissist.
What's narcissistic is for a person to think they are powerful or important enough to assign a meaning to such a complex phenomenon as life.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I think it comes naturally and makes perfect sense.
@schu:
It makes sense for every person to assign a meaning to life? What if the meaning that I assign to life contradicts the meaning you assign to life? Who is right?
Meaning is relative to the perceiver of it and even then it can change.
I disagree with the idea that there is an absolute authority that dictates what matters.
Each person's meaning is right for them and it isn't up to anything or anyone else to decide that unless they choose to invite someone else's interpretation into their personal meaning.
@schu:
You're conflating two different things here. You're talking about the meaning of life, but what you seem to mean is the things in ones life that are very important to them.
If I say the meaning of life is "X", and you say the meaning of life is "not X", one of is is wrong. If we are both right, then life is meaningless and this is an utterly pointless discussion.
It is pointless if you don't find interest in what other people find meaningful. This is exactly what the point of the OP was. They wanted to share what they thought was meaningful and then to ask others what they found to be meaningful.
@schu:
What others find meaningful can be interesting, and can make for good conversation. However, that's a very different topic than the meaning of life.
If you think that the meaning of life is dependant on your feelings about what is meaningful to you, you're horribly narcissistic.
I guess by your definition that makes me what you say then. Dunno what else to say really.
@schu:
This about it like this, what if we replace "life" with any other natural phenomenon?
What is the meaning of gravity?
Would it make sense for someone to begin assigning a meaning to gravity that is dependant on their personal, subjective thought about what is meaningful to them?
To me it seems like a strange question to ask what the meaning of gravity is. Gravity is an observation about the effects of things on other things. When you ask "What is the meaning of life?" that isn't the same thing as asking how life works. When someone asks about the meaning of life it means what are people seeking to get out of life, what keeps them getting up out of bed every day, and how they think about the things around them. Asking about meaning implies a conscious beholder of that meaning. I don't think there is an absolute arbiter of meaning, but rather many individual perspectives which happen to often contain a lot of overlap. I can't stand the desire for people to try to define purpose outside of the perspective of the individual and optionally the collective if they choose to share meaning. In my opinion trying to pretend that there is an absolute purpose is in fact an attempt at trying to control people that is no more justified than trying to force an admittedly individual perspective of meaning onto someone else.
So to answer your question, in a way , yes, it would make sense to me that someone would subjectively define the meaning of gravity for themselves because it goes a step beyond discussing the observations of how gravity works and instead focuses on the resulting personal relationship to the phenomena.
Lastly, I would argue that two people could have different personal meanings which are not incompatible, so it isn't necessarily required that one person be right and one person be wrong. I admit that sometimes people's meanings are at odds, though.
I think that meaning in its essence is subjective.
There is no one true meaning of life because we are individuals. Most would say to procreate/reproduce or to not die. Personally I would say the meaning of life is to die. It's one of the only things that everyone does (Waits for the everyone breathes argument). So the meaning of life is to die in order to move on to the next stage. So I just try to be a good personal, make the most of the good things in my life and deal with the bad the best way that I know how to until that eventuality happens.
The meaning of life is for you to be your own individual person, to build your own values and morals (I wouldn't recommend it being something that goes against universal laws of the land such as killing and stealing), be comfortable with who you are and not allow anyone to corrupt you, and when the end is coming, hope that you go out with your dignity still intact in this maelstrom of chaos. That is pretty much the cycle of life outside of simply procreating...
@schu:
"there cannot be meaning without personal interpretation."
Of course there can be (if you believe there is a meaning to life, that is).
You believe there is a meaning to life, correct?
Now, let's pretend that you never existed, you were never born. Is there still meaning to life, even though you were never born?
Your personal interpretation is ridiculously inconsequential when it comes to understanding the nature of phenomena like life. As far as we can tell, the first living organisms didn't have brains. Life existed before living things even had the capacity to personally interprete their existence.
I feel like we're not using the same definition of meaning. I think meaning is fundamentally subjective.
The point of life is what you make of it. Some are hedonists, others live for purpose, most are mixed or swayed between the two in the course of their lives.
But that's just the point of life from an individual perspective. What the point of life is as a whole has yet to be answered.
In my opinion: There is no meaning to life, no purpose. Life is just that... life. There is no god or higher being or fate or anything controlling your existence. When you die, you die and it's a scary thought but its actually what makes me appreciate life more because it has no point and I'm just lucky to be granted life and will make sure I spend every moment remembering that :)
@schu:
So you think that life had no meaning until animals evolved to the point of being able to think that life has a meaning?
What made that first animal with that mental capacity so important?
Why did life have no meaning before that animal came along?
Yes. I think meaning is a construct of the sentient.
“The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” —Mark Twain.
“The only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle.” - Steve Jobs
I believe we all are here for a purpose in life to give back something to this society and to the world and if we don’t take responsibility of that, nobody else could take it. Talent you have is priceless.If you haven't found it yet,keep looking for it.
Life is to love and be loved.
Life is to explore and absorb.
Life is to let go and move on.
Life is to find and create.
Life is precious and so are you.
Life doesn't have a meaning lol no matter how huge something is (like civilizations) it's still insignificant on some higher level
There's not even anything close to a chance humans are gonna live through the whole timeline of the universe we'll be gone someday and nobody's ever gonna even know we were here, I'd call that pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things
Maybe there isn't a purpose for life. Maybe life is parasitic spreading around the universe. What is life is parasitic to the earth like fleas on a dog. Maybe mankind isn't as important to the universe some believe.
Agreed, the universe is naturally chaotic and humans create order (civilizations, law etc) so in a way we're doing the complete opposite of what's natural for the universe
@Ovirew: Some questions don't make sense. Why is spoon? What's the purpose of floods? Same with life. It's what YOU decide that matters.
Wow! Well, I'm glad to see that my thread ended up creating so much discussion and dissection. This is the kind of reasonable debating and thought-sharing that I was hoping would occur. I just hope that at the end of the day, anyone who followed this thread and contributed to it found something worth reading and talking about.
Of course none of us have all of the answers, but then sharing our own thoughts and looking at things in different ways can help us to discover new things about life, and maybe even reconsider or reiterate our own viewpoint. It got people to think and talk and listen. Can't ask for much more than that.
For me 2017 has been a kind of difficult year, both in my personal life and for modern society. So much arguing and debate takes place over issues both big and small nowadays, and it's difficult at times to tell who is right or wrong anymore, and what is real and fabricated. Lots of things keep coming to a head, and I suspect that isn't going to stop anytime soon. I may be hearing about some of these very same issues for the remainder of my life. It's all probably necessary for moving forward, but it's unfortunate how polarizing and uncertain it's all been.
I'm just continuing to live my own life and make sense of it, and hopefully figure out how to live a normal life like everyone else. Then again, maybe I don't want normal.
I don't know what my purpose in life is. But, I rather be alive than dead. That's good enough to keep me going.
I think this question doesn't make sense, when you really think about it. It's like asking "what's the point of this rock?"
Not all questions are good questions, even though those questions may be good for stretching the mind into the metaphysical. While I'd argue there's no "point" or "purpose" of life, I would say that while we are here, there's a moral imperative to reduce suffering and increase joy in both our own and other's lives. I think that's easily quantifiable.
The purpose of life is to be fruitful because living without a purpose is like a body without a soul.
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