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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"] No, it's because this strike is purely symbolic and idiotic. It will be used as propaganda by Assad if the strikes are weak. If they are heavier it will help Al-Qaeda.KC_HokieI suggest you watch the US debate because that came up, and Kerry agreed that Assad will do just that because that is not the purpose of the action,it's only to downgrade his ability.Yea exactly...symbolic strike. Assad has had 2+ weeks to prepare for these strikes too. He's moved everything around. Like this? It boggles the mind we have posters like you defending that scum. ''Syrian regime moves prisoners to likely targets of western military strikes'' http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/syrian-regime-moves-prisoners-to-likely-targets-of-western-military-strikes
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] I suggest you watch the US debate because that came up, and Kerry agreed that Assad will do just that because that is not the purpose of the action,it's only to downgrade his ability.killzowned24Yea exactly...symbolic strike. Assad has had 2+ weeks to prepare for these strikes too. He's moved everything around. Like this? It boggles the mind we have posters like you defending that scum. ''Syrian regime moves prisoners to likely targets of western military strikes'' http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/syrian-regime-moves-prisoners-to-likely-targets-of-western-military-strikesDefending him? No not at all. Announcing a strike 2+ weeks before it happens is extremely stupid and won't be successful. It's symbolic at best.
[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yea exactly...symbolic strike. Assad has had 2+ weeks to prepare for these strikes too. He's moved everything around.KC_HokieLike this? It boggles the mind we have posters like you defending that scum. ''Syrian regime moves prisoners to likely targets of western military strikes'' http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/syrian-regime-moves-prisoners-to-likely-targets-of-western-military-strikesDefending him? No not at all. Announcing a strike 2+ before it happens is extremely stupid and won't be successful. It's symbolic at best. have you never heard of bunker busters?
[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"] No, it's because this strike is purely symbolic and idiotic. It will be used as propaganda by Assad if the strikes are weak. If they are heavier it will help Al-Qaeda.KC_HokieI suggest you watch the US debate because that came up, and Kerry agreed that Assad will do just that because that is not the purpose of the action,it's only to downgrade his ability.Yea exactly...symbolic strike. Assad has had 2+ weeks to prepare for these strikes too. He's moved everything around. Shit man.. that too.. Assad is getting luxury time to move out of the way and prepare.. Or hell, do something really bad while he's listening closely... This strike is a really bad idea.. The civilians of Syria who didn't ask for this are the ones that will be paying ( even worse than they are now ) with their lives if this strike gets the ok.
[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Defending him? No not at all. Announcing a strike 2+ before it happens is extremely stupid and won't be successful. It's symbolic at best.KC_Hokiehave you never heard of bunker busters?Yes but those aren't cruise missiles. Obama is only planning cruise missiles from ships. They can't hit underground targets. That can easily change to a few plane strikes.
[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Defending him? No not at all. Announcing a strike 2+ before it happens is extremely stupid and won't be successful. It's symbolic at best.KC_Hokiehave you never heard of bunker busters?Yes but those aren't cruise missiles. Obama is only planning cruise missiles from ships. They can't hit underground targets. http://www.softwar.net/agm86.html
And?
First off, the house is still voting and so far it's mostly No.
It's not going to happen and even if it does, it's not going to be like Iraq. Seriously did anyone understand what Obama said?
Of course it wont be like Iraq.. It is never is like the previous war, right? ... lolAnd?
First off, the house is still voting and so far it's mostly No.
It's not going to happen and even if it does, it's not going to be like Iraq. Seriously did anyone understand what Obama said?
leviathan91
[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yes but those aren't cruise missiles. Obama is only planning cruise missiles from ships. They can't hit underground targets.KC_HokieThat can easily change to a few plane strikes.They've already stated they won't be using planes. When? I've only seen boots on the ground being out of the question.
Like this? It boggles the mind we have posters like you defending that scum. ''Syrian regime moves prisoners to likely targets of western military strikes'' http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/syrian-regime-moves-prisoners-to-likely-targets-of-western-military-strikesDefending him? No not at all. Announcing a strike 2+ weeks before it happens is extremely stupid and won't be successful. It's symbolic at best. I've also heard that the targets to be hit were leaked, if true Assad, or the rebels for that matter, could move chemical stockpiles to these targets and it'd be the United States fault for the ensuing civilian deaths. Attacking Syria in any capacity is huge quagmire and no one in the administration seems cognizant to it.[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yea exactly...symbolic strike. Assad has had 2+ weeks to prepare for these strikes too. He's moved everything around.KC_Hokie
[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yes but those aren't cruise missiles. Obama is only planning cruise missiles from ships. They can't hit underground targets.KC_Hokiehttp://www.softwar.net/agm86.html
Also, while CNN told me only racist right wing conspiracy nuts hold this thought, does anyone find it funny that the person considering f*cking bombing Syria is a nobel peace prize winner? And that the "most transparent government of all time" does not release the "undeniable" evidence of the regime's involvement? While locking up whistle blowers?MrPraline
Democrats are a funny lot.
For once I hope that somebody employs the filibuster. Every time we try and spend money on building our own country up politicians are all up in arms because we simply don't have the money to do so, but blow this sh!t out of some other country and watch the politicians yell "Murica!"
What is the right thing to do in this situation? If Syria is using chemical weapons against its own people, should we do nothing or should we start bombing? Neither action seems to be a good choice. I say, we should only act if we get an large international consensus. I do not want the US acting by itself. If this is supposedly an atrocity, then the world should step up and come together.
this is actually a good response.. A chemical weapon was used.. this is something the world needs to come together on and talk about.. not individual countries deciding they want start launching missiles on their own.What is the right thing to do in this situation? If Syria is using chemical weapons against its own people, should we do nothing or should we start bombing? Neither action seems to be a good choice. I say, we should only act if we get an large international consensus. I do not want the US acting by itself. If this is supposedly an atrocity, then the world should step up and come together.
sonicare
Talking about atrocities: Have you heard about signature strikes and their collateral damage? I think those atrocities should be punished as well...What is the right thing to do in this situation? If Syria is using chemical weapons against its own people, should we do nothing or should we start bombing? Neither action seems to be a good choice. I say, we should only act if we get an large international consensus. I do not want the US acting by itself. If this is supposedly an atrocity, then the world should step up and come together.
sonicare
[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yes but are launched by bombers over the targets. KC_HokieThey still have a several hundred mile range. So Damascus could be hit from friendly countries by plane launched cruise missiles. No. Range of bunker buster cruise missile is under 90 miles. So you would have to release them over Syrian airspace to hit the majority of targets. More like 600 miles.
Awesome, lets spend more time and money bombing brown people. HoolaHoopManand less money on helping our own people, less money to improve health care, education and less money to help the starving and homeless - which there are a large amount of in the US.
We won't even have the UK with us. Their parliament voted no. France's parliament could vote no as well.[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"]
I have a question.. Why is it when there's something ify in the world.. It's only the U.S and pulling their allies into it. Why does this country have to be the one to do this stuff? if we attack, why can't somebody else take care of it? Do we think we are some chosen god or something?
KC_Hokie
We're doing this alone. Not even a tiny 'coalition of the willing".
weren't there like 40 something countries in Bush's "coalition of the willing" during the Iraq War, and even more countries in the coalition for the Afghan War?[QUOTE="sonicare"]Talking about atrocities: Have you heard about signature strikes and their collateral damage? I think those atrocities should be punished as well... Which is the problem. What do you suggest doing about the chemical attacks, though? Looking the other way. That's a choice, but I don't know if it's the best one. Be nice if Syria's allies condemned them for that. If that occurred, then I doubt they'd do that again.What is the right thing to do in this situation? If Syria is using chemical weapons against its own people, should we do nothing or should we start bombing? Neither action seems to be a good choice. I say, we should only act if we get an large international consensus. I do not want the US acting by itself. If this is supposedly an atrocity, then the world should step up and come together.
curono
[QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="sonicare"]Talking about atrocities: Have you heard about signature strikes and their collateral damage? I think those atrocities should be punished as well... Which is the problem. What do you suggest doing about the chemical attacks, though? Looking the other way. That's a choice, but I don't know if it's the best one. Be nice if Syria's allies condemned them for that. If that occurred, then I doubt they'd do that again. I don't know if you understood my message. Double tap, collateral damage, torture... Those things are OPENLY perpetrated by the U.S. So, by that logic, when are we nuking the pentagon? Should we look the other way? Look Sirya is a terrible problem. Bombing some factories/armies/whatever will not solve the problem, will not make it better and will not make people people happy. In a nutshell, Siryans killed Siryans so the plan is go and kill some more Siryans? Call me crazy if I find concerns....What is the right thing to do in this situation? If Syria is using chemical weapons against its own people, should we do nothing or should we start bombing? Neither action seems to be a good choice. I say, we should only act if we get an large international consensus. I do not want the US acting by itself. If this is supposedly an atrocity, then the world should step up and come together.
sonicare
[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]Awesome, lets spend more time and money bombing brown people. Rattlesnake_8and less money on helping our own people, less money to improve health care, education and less money to help the starving and homeless - which there are a large amount of in the US. That's something that has always scared me about the US general public. People will literally fight tooth and nail against any notion of helping their fellow man. I think its a consequence from the years of communism. If anything even remotely sounds to have some basis in Socialism (which a lot of Americans seem to think is the exact same thing as communism) it is automatically rejected and labeled as being bad. The thing that seperates us from wild animals is that we take care of our weak, we don't just leave them to die. That's why we have hospitals. So I dont see what is so horrible about people who are more fortunate, giving up some of their tax money to help people less fortunate. If I had to have some money removed from my pay check every month and that ensured that another human being somwhere else would get to live another day, that's money well spent. Someone's life is worth more than me getting a bit more money every month.
Yea exactly...symbolic strike. Assad has had 2+ weeks to prepare for these strikes too. He's moved everything around. Shit man.. that too.. Assad is getting luxury time to move out of the way and prepare.. Or hell, do something really bad while he's listening closely... This strike is a really bad idea.. The civilians of Syria who didn't ask for this are the ones that will be paying ( even worse than they are now ) with their lives if this strike gets the ok. on the flip side, if assad is running around trying to hide all his s--t, he's not using it.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] I suggest you watch the US debate because that came up, and Kerry agreed that Assad will do just that because that is not the purpose of the action,it's only to downgrade his ability.The_Lipscomb
Also you guys are clearly idiotic if you think you're getting involved into a random Middle Eastern country for nothing. When was the world ever that simple? "ZOMG brown people are getting gassed by an oppressive dictator! Lets go help!" - said no American (politician) ever.Victorious_Fize:lol:
you really think the crimes committed against Ghadaffis family and Syria minorities even comes remotely close to the crimes committed by those governments?"The world can not be silent" - Barack Obama
Why not?
The world was silent when the rebels were burning Christian villages to the ground.
The world was silent when the rebels were slaughtering Christian children.
The world was silent when these rebels were eating the remains of their human victims.The world was silent when you, President Obama, gave the order that burned Qadaffis grandchildren to death.
So, apparently, the world can be silent. It's silent most of the time.when atrocities are committed, especially the atrocities you commit, Barack.
Born_Lucky
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