[QUOTE="mexicangordo"][QUOTE="Buddha_basic"] Hmm...do you know more about billy than yourself? I hope not. I think maybe though there is a blurred line in this between being arrogant and being egotistical, both of which most of the time come hand in hand, both of which i think billy is. I'm not saying its bad but lets be honest...what else but for ego food would anyone want to "make the best album ever" so they wont be viewed as another "nobody band".
Anyway i do enjoy smashing pumpkins. Their new stuff (the current reincarnation of SP) i think is a lame attempt to bring back the old and frankly just isnt taht good. Although i did see them here on their first reunion tour at Red Rocks and their new stuff was incredible live and of course the old stuff was bliss.
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Well thats a silly statement, although i can easily say i look up to the man, his music greatly changed my life.Ive said before, he does have an ego but he is not this tall arrogant "im better than the world" kind of guy that most people (even his fans) make him seem. He wanting to make the "best album" means he has an ego now? I guess me wanting to be the best "chef" makes me have a big ego as well, along with anyone else who sets their goals high and dreams big....
I like their new stuff, although I am not blind. I love the band dearly and i know bad music when i hear it. I like that he's moving on and and evolving. Thats a huge level of respect that most bands lose from their fans because they become this Karaoke box. Lets be glad that they wan't change and i honestly hope they make another album.
Ha yea i guess it was...... Having big dreams and goals doesnt scream ego no but having big dreams and goals for the recognition...thats for the ego. Again though i dont think thats bad at all. Everyone has an ego some let it drive them more than others and if it helps you succeed or drive for success then why not? But most rockstars get into the business to become big because they want the "women the drugs the money the house the (dare i say it) god like image" etc etc. Its just the life they choose nothing wrong with that as long as youre happy, but lets not sugar coat it.
Oh yes i def. hope they make another album. Not everyone can **** gold every time they go to the toilet right? Their new stuff isnt horrible but i think billy is just trying very hard (feeling around in the dark maybe?) for that next "siamese dream" type successful album while pushing the buondaries of what people expect or even want to hear from them. It def. has an old school pumpkins taste to it (the solos!! which still rock) but i dont think its the same emotion generating music im used to from them. His solo electronica esque album i think is another example but this i really dont like that much if at all, whereas the new SP (tarantulla and the like) i really enjoyed hearing and seeing played live more so than on album.
Ok now i agree with you.When i said they didn't want to be a "nobody" band, they didn't want to be this mainstream robotic typical band. This is why Billy greatly mocked the Grunge movement in the early 90's. He thought they were all machines and didn't want to lose the band in the machine, that is why they stayed indie the entire time they released their first 2 albums. It wasn't until the surprise hit of Siamese Dream were the industry accepted them and wanted them to become a mainstream fad, and sadly to an extent, that did happen. That is why you get those people who always say, "yea i liked there first albums but the rest is crap."
I agree completely with you on your second statement. Like i said, im not blind, i know that their new material isnt as great as it could be, especially their new work. Thats the problem im having with them right now, their newer work sounds good (for the most part) but its lacking a lot of emotion and lyrical depth. Billy brought heavy emotion to his albums, he was praised for doing so but in their recent work, it seems like they are just "singing". They arn't meaning their lyrics, It really is missing some sort of spark. But seeing them live is fantastic, they are a very good live band.
I really hope Billy pulls through, infact i know he will. He doesn't have to make another Siamese Dream but as long as its a step foward from Zeitgiest, i will be satisfied.
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