The Straight Pride Movement

What's so special about being gay that they get their own parades and festivals? What's with gay pride? Singling out homosexuality and celebrating it specifically, makes it seem like it's some wonderful thing that needs to be cherished. It's just another lifestyle. Nothing special.

I haven othing against gay people at all, it's just that you don't see straight people marching around talking about how great it is to be straight. Straight people don't have any special weekends with parades and festivals. Why not? Would it be considered hateful towards gays? Well, isn't suggesting that straight people shouldn't celebrate their heterosexuality, hateful in itself? Are the straight people now the group being oppressed, just so the gays can have their time in the spotlight? What's the deal?

Because no one desciminates against straights, so there is no need for it...Darth-Caedus

The whole idea of gay pride is to have pride in being gay TO be proud of your sexuality whether it be LGB or T. Its the only day the gay community has to really show the world that they are here and are proud of their sexuality.

I think its a fantastic even't, more power to them.

Why a gay pride movement? Because the number of straight people is fantastically larger than the number of gay people.

All minorities get a pride movement. It's simple.

The whole idea of gay pride is to have pride in being gay TO be proud of your sexuality whether it be LGB or T. Its the only day the gay community has to really show the world that they are here and are proud of their sexuality.

I think its a fantastic even't, more power to them.

While i agree everyone has there own choice of sexuality in life and what you do in the bedroom is nobody else's business...i do agree that "They" do go a bit overboard in terms of trying to get equal rights.

Why dont we get a holiday you say?, well,if they can, so can we right?, No, becuause where not "special" enough in the mainstream media, Straights are on the "OK" radar, we never do anything out of the norm and probably 80% of people are straight, so its nothing unusual, but the problem with that is "They" think they are some kind of special human being, making them unique from everyone else, and thinking that the entire world is aganist them, so they form a "unity" to stress there "Oppression" from the government and regular people..

When in real life, nobody really gives a Flying rats ass what sexuality you are.

please note: by me saying "they" i dont mean it offensively, but GS's censoring is BS so i need some way of saying it without adding numbers to the word.

All minorities get a pride movement. It's simple. UnrighteousFury

When in real life, nobody really gives a Flying rats ass what sexuality you are. Pinkyimp

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

The whole idea of gay pride is to have pride in being gay TO be proud of your sexuality whether it be LGB or T. Its the only day the gay community has to really show the world that they are here and are proud of their sexuality.

I think its a fantastic even't, more power to them.

3-Legged_Man

[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]Because the number of straight people is fantastically larger than the number of gay people. -Sun_Tzu-

I'm suspecting some kind of gay-dar. Of course they could be getting interfeernce from a gay weather balloon.

[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]All minorities get a pride movement. It's simple. 3-Legged_Man

What is there to make sense of? I was simply stating a fact.

As to why they get a pride movement, members of minorities often feel like they are the only ones who belong to that minority, and the point of a pride movement is to show them that they aren't alone and that there are other people like them out there.

[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]Because the number of straight people is fantastically larger than the number of gay people. -Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="UnrighteousFury"]Because the number of straight people is fantastically larger than the number of gay people. 3-Legged_Man

If you think that the number of homosexuals even begins to equal the number of heteros, you're living in delusion.

A lot of people even think that the 10% estimate is too generous.

The whole idea of gay pride is to have pride in being gay TO be proud of your sexuality whether it be LGB or T. Its the only day the gay community has to really show the world that they are here and are proud of their sexuality.

I think its a fantastic even't, more power to them.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"] That's debatable. Many gays are in the closet still.3-Legged_Man

[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] And how do you know they're in the closest?-Sun_Tzu-

probably 80% of people are straightPinkyimp

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Because no one desciminates against straights, so there is no need for it...3-Legged_Man

Im starting to think you do have a problem with the gay community after all...or this is just some huge flame bait to get a 100 + thread....mexicangordo

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"] Not only do I know some men like this personally, but isn't it funny how there seems to be more and more gays every year? It might be closer to being even with heterosexuality than we think. Only the homosexuals will reveal this, over time. There's really no way to statistically corner an accurate representation of the distance between hetero and homosexuality, since many gay people will lie about their orientaion out of shame. 3-Legged_Man

[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] So your data that is 100% unscientific is credible evidence to support the claim that there is a significant number of closeted gays?-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"] Why are you trying to argue scientifically? Just open your eyes, and you will see what I'm saying. Experience shall come to you, if you are patiently open to it. Gay guys come out of the closet all the time. I hear it every now and then. "So and so came out of the closet, did you hear?" Sometimes it's someone you know in private, sometimes i'ts a celebrity. But there's always a big deal made out of it, and I just think, "Why? Who cares ift his person is gay or not? Why is it such a big deal? No one makes a big deal out of anyone being straight." So since it keeps happening, it's safe to assume that there are still many closeted gays, otherwise they'd all be out by now. But you'll see, in a few weeks time, maybe another celebrity will come out of the closet. Maybe Dick Cheney. He seems gay to me.3-Legged_Man

Yes, cause us straight people have been oppressed for so long.muffincakes87

I didn't mean you were trying to have an argument in the sense that you made this title with the intent to aimlessly argue with people. I mean you have a weak argument in the sense that you cannot make a strong argument with the evidence you presented.-Sun_Tzu-

Yes, cause us straight people have been oppressed for so long.muffincakes87

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] I didn't mean you were trying to have an argument in the sense that you made this title with the intent to aimlessly argue with people. I mean you have a weak argument in the sense that you cannot make a strong argument with the evidence you presented.3-Legged_Man

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What's so special about being gay that they get their own parades and festivals? What's with gay pride? Singling out homosexuality and celebrating it specifically, makes it seem like it's some wonderful thing that needs to be cherished. It's just another lifestyle. Nothing special.

I haven othing against gay people at all, it's just that you don't see straight people marching around talking about how great it is to be straight. Straight people don't have any special weekends with parades and festivals. Why not? Would it be considered hateful towards gays? Well, isn't suggesting that straight people shouldn't celebrate their heterosexuality, hateful in itself? Are the straight people now the group being oppressed, just so the gays can have their time in the spotlight? What's the deal?

3-Legged_Man

Well if gay people weren't persecuted for centuries, weren't discriminated against beyond even just the past 20 years, didn't suffer so many hate crimes, and even still put to death in a lot of countries around the world then there'd be no need.

The word starting with f used to describe homosexuals is still thrown around an awful lot these days and people use it more liberally than anyone would dare with the n word used to deride black people. The word *** derives from a bundle of sticks used to start fires, which is what they'd do to homosexuals in medieval times. Throw them in to a fire and burn them alive.

You can just look around OT and see that homophobia is still prevalent, even for the stupidest, inane reasons. We can have 100 pages of threads with people saying that homosexuality is immoral, disgusting, unnatural and is going to land people in hell with all the horrendous stereotypes even when a) homosexuality harms no one and b) Has zero evidence to suggest it's a choice. Racism is a huge no no, but society seems to be pretty indifferent when it comes to deriding homosexuals. So while it continues, so will the gay pride parades. If you don't like it, do what I do and ignore it. It's really not that hard.

[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] I didn't mean you were trying to have an argument in the sense that you made this title with the intent to aimlessly argue with people. I mean you have a weak argument in the sense that you cannot make a strong argument with the evidence you presented.-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"] What is this? Court? 3-Legged_Man

Well, the opposite of pride is shame. The gay pride movement exists because there are gay people who aren't ashamed of their lifestyle, and they want to demonstrate that to the people who stigmatize them every day. Not to mention the governments and voters who are so hell bent on preventing them from getting married.

I think I kind of understand where you're coming from. I am straight, and I believe in being proud of who you are, but I think a straight pride 'movement' is completely unnecessary. We have rights, and we're not frowned upon because we have a different lifestyle. I think that to ask for anything more, socially, would just be plain selfish.

Well if gay people weren't persecuted for centuries, weren't discriminated against beyond even just the past 20 years, didn't suffer so many hate crimes, and even still put to death in a lot of countries around the world then there'd be no need.

The word starting with f used to describe homosexuals is still thrown around an awful lot these days and people use it more liberally than anyone would dare with the n word used to deride black people. The word *** derives from a bundle of sticks used to start fires, which is what they'd do to homosexuals in medieval times. Throw them in to a fire and burn them alive.

You can just look around OT and see that homophobia is still prevalent, even for the stupidest, inane reasons. We can have 100 pages of threads with people saying that homosexuality is immoral, disgusting, unnatural and is going to land people in hell with all the horrendous stereotypes even when a) homosexuality harms no one and b) Has zero evidence to suggest it's a choice. Racism is a huge no no, but society seems to be pretty indifferent when it comes to deriding homosexuals. So while it continues, so will the gay pride parades. If you don't like it, do what I do and ignore it. It's really not that hard.

Red-XIII

Main thing is, I just don't like all the bending over backwards we have to do just to avoid being "politically incorrect".

Well, the opposite of pride is shame. The gay pride movement exists because there are gay people who aren't ashamed of their lifestyle, and they want to demonstrate that to the people who stigmatize them every day. Not to mention the governments and voters who are so hell bent on preventing them from getting married.

I think I kind of understand where you're coming from. I am straight, and I believe in being proud of who you are, but I think a straight pride 'movement' is completely unnecessary. We have rights, and we're not frowned upon because we have a different lifestyle.

When did I say this was a serious business? You are trying to persuade people to conform to your own ideals, or why else make this thread? I'm just saying you have a weak argument; nothing more, nothing less.-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"] That's debatable. Many gays are in the closet still.3-Legged_Man

BINGO! You just proved all our points. There is a stigma that being gay is shameful. Therefore there is gay pride to override this.

/thread

[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] And how do you know they're in the closest?Cwagmire21

BINGO! You just proved all our points. There is a stigma that being gay is shameful. Therefore there is gay pride to override this.

/thread

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]When did I say this was a serious business? You are trying to persuade people to conform to your own ideals, or why else make this thread? I'm just saying you have a weak argument; nothing more, nothing less.3-Legged_Man

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]Im starting to think you do have a problem with the gay community after all...or this is just some huge flame bait to get a 100 + thread....3-Legged_Man

[QUOTE="Cwagmire21"]

[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"] Not only do I know some men like this personally, but isn't it funny how there seems to be more and more gays every year? It might be closer to being even with heterosexuality than we think. Only the homosexuals will reveal this, over time. There's really no way to statistically corner an accurate representation of the distance between hetero and homosexuality, since many gay people will lie about their orientaion out of shame. 3-Legged_Man

BINGO! You just proved all our points. There is a stigma that being gay is shameful. Therefore there is gay pride to override this.

/thread

You mock my choice of words and go off onto another tangent?

Speaking of not "doing anything but make a lot of noise" *points at TC.

[QUOTE="Red-XIII"]

Well if gay people weren't persecuted for centuries, weren't discriminated against beyond even just the past 20 years, didn't suffer so many hate crimes, and even still put to death in a lot of countries around the world then there'd be no need.

The word starting with f used to describe homosexuals is still thrown around an awful lot these days and people use it more liberally than anyone would dare with the n word used to deride black people. The word *** derives from a bundle of sticks used to start fires, which is what they'd do to homosexuals in medieval times. Throw them in to a fire and burn them alive.

You can just look around OT and see that homophobia is still prevalent, even for the stupidest, inane reasons. We can have 100 pages of threads with people saying that homosexuality is immoral, disgusting, unnatural and is going to land people in hell with all the horrendous stereotypes even when a) homosexuality harms no one and b) Has zero evidence to suggest it's a choice. Racism is a huge no no, but society seems to be pretty indifferent when it comes to deriding homosexuals. So while it continues, so will the gay pride parades. If you don't like it, do what I do and ignore it. It's really not that hard.

3-Legged_Man

Main thing is, I just don't like all the bending over backwards we have to do just to avoid being "politically incorrect".

There's a huge difference between using the word f** to describe a cigarette, as is part of British culture, and people using it to insult others. Red-XIII

Methinks TC that you have some issues with yourself you need to sort out if you feel the need to protest so much. Red-XIII

our society has become retarded and needs to put bubble wrap around everything.Red-XIII

If there's one thing you should learn, it's apathy. Red-XIII

You can't change any of these problems by complaining about them and stressing yourself out. Better to just ignore it and do something more productive with your time.Red-XIII

[QUOTE="3-Legged_Man"][QUOTE="Cwagmire21"]

BINGO! You just proved all our points. There is a stigma that being gay is shameful. Therefore there is gay pride to override this.

/thread

Cwagmire21

You mock my choice of words and go off onto another tangent?

Speaking of not "doing anything but make a lot of noise" *points at TC.

I see what you're getting at, but all humans are unique, and if we didn't celebrate what makes us unique it would be a very dull world.Lucien_NTA