The Thing prequel. I'm afraid to watch it.

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#1 m25105
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Because I'm afraid it's going to suck, already from what I've seen of the pictures, we got a hot fresh out of college American chick and a black guy (no I don't have anything against black guys in the film, I'm just questioning why there is a black guy along with a woman in a camp that's suppose to be Norwegian) in the Norwegian camp. Not to mention how young and fresh faced they all look. Then there is the language issue, did the Norwegians forget they can speak English when they landed at the American camp (if you've seen John Carpenter's The Thing you know what I mean), did the Americans in the prequel speak Norwegian, since everything was written in Norwegian at their camp?

I don't know I'm a HUGE the Thing fan, but I'm afraid of where one film was with middle aged scientists frustrated and bored the other film looks like it has teen bubblegum actors that look perfect in every way.

Now call me an asshat for simply not enjoying the film, but I just can't stand the pretty faced actors that Hollywood uses. In John Carpenters thing, we had regular looking dudes. Ah well I'll probably watch it any way, maybe I'm wrong and Hollywood didn't create a popcorn flick that you can forget about right after watching it.

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If it's all CGI then I'll probably hate it.
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I plan on saving my money for more original movie ideas.
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I'll end up watching it one day but as long as it isn't a remake then I wont be too annoyed.
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It doesn't really matter if it's horrible does it? You'll always have Carpenter's film to watch over and over again so why sweat it? The director's last film is fairly well regarded although I must admit having the writer of Final Destination 5 and the horrific Nightmare on Elm Street from 2010 doesn't really bolster my confidence all that much. But hey everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, hated on the idea of Carpenter making The Thing when it was first hitting the theatres in 1982 for daring to remake what people considered to be a classic film namely The Thing From Another World so who knows?

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It doesn't really matter if it's horrible does it? You'll always have Carpenter's film to watch over and over again so why sweat it? The director's last film is fairly well regarded although I must admit having the writer of Final Destination 5 and the horrific Nightmare on Elm Street from 2010 doesn't really bolster my confidence all that much. But hey everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY, hated on the idea of Carpenter making The Thing when it was first hitting the theatres in 1982 for daring to remake what people considered to be a classic film namely The Thing From Another World so who knows?

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That's how I feel. I'm just happy there's a monster movie in theaters soon, even if it's nothing more than a prequel.
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Normally, I'd just write this off as just another crappy horror flick, but for some reason I'm holding out hope for it. It COULD actually be good. I think it's because I love The Thing so much.
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TBH, I thought this movie was just a remake/reimagining...not a prequel. ...hmmm...actually more likely to see now
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The new one is already on Youtube. Given the rules I can't link.
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]TBH, I thought this movie was just a remake/reimagining...not a prequel. ...hmmm...actually more likely to see now

It's supposed to take place shortly before the events in the John Carpenter version. You'd think the studio would give the movie some sort sub-title to avoid confusing people.
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There are four reviews up on Rotten Tomatoes right now. They're all pretty highly mixed reviews, but seen to be fairly consistent. Sounds like The Thing (2011) DOES suck, but there are at least a few things about it that are moderately effective. Overall, it sounds like it's a little bit better than I was expecting, and not nearly as good as I was hoping.
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Big fan of the carpenter film, I'm worried it will suck too. At first it sounds interesting when the director says he's building the film to fit around the scenes of the destroyed norwegian camp in the 82 film, but then it sounds like the film is in a creative bottleneck if they have to check off the numbers of what appeared in both movies.

axe in the door? check. frozen guy bleeding frozen blood all over? check. burnt body in this location? check.

fans of the original already know how it ends. it has to end with the alien escaping and two guys chasing after it in a chopper. the trailer also showed off snippets clear enough to spoil who's an alien and in what situation, if those scenes do appear in the actual movie.

looks like a few kills by the thing are standard horror movie monster jump-outs. oooh, that guy got pulled under that building outside! scary!

will there be any mystery? any tension? I hope so.

and showing the alien's form in the block of ice? really? come on, save something to be ambiguous please.

and having a woman coming into the story and ruining it? that's the last straw! :P

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Because I'm afraid it's going to suck, already from what I've seen of the pictures, we got a hot fresh out of college American chick and a black guy (no I don't have anything against black guys in the film, I'm just questioning why there is a black guy along with a woman in a camp that's suppose to be Norwegian) in the Norwegian camp. Not to mention how young and fresh faced they all look. Then there is the language issue, did the Norwegians forget they can speak English when they landed at the American camp (if you've seen John Carpenter's The Thing you know what I mean), did the Americans in the prequel speak Norwegian, since everything was written in Norwegian at their camp?

I don't know I'm a HUGE the Thing fan, but I'm afraid of where one film was with middle aged scientists frustrated and bored the other film looks like it has teen bubblegum actors that look perfect in every way.

Now call me an asshat for simply not enjoying the film, but I just can't stand the pretty faced actors that Hollywood uses. In John Carpenters thing, we had regular looking dudes. Ah well I'll probably watch it any way, maybe I'm wrong and Hollywood didn't create a popcorn flick that you can forget about right after watching it.

m25105

And that is the big problem I have with it. Every film now has to look like the cast of iCarly / Victorious.

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[QUOTE="m25105"]

Because I'm afraid it's going to suck, already from what I've seen of the pictures, we got a hot fresh out of college American chick and a black guy (no I don't have anything against black guys in the film, I'm just questioning why there is a black guy along with a woman in a camp that's suppose to be Norwegian) in the Norwegian camp. Not to mention how young and fresh faced they all look. Then there is the language issue, did the Norwegians forget they can speak English when they landed at the American camp (if you've seen John Carpenter's The Thing you know what I mean), did the Americans in the prequel speak Norwegian, since everything was written in Norwegian at their camp?

I don't know I'm a HUGE the Thing fan, but I'm afraid of where one film was with middle aged scientists frustrated and bored the other film looks like it has teen bubblegum actors that look perfect in every way.

Now call me an asshat for simply not enjoying the film, but I just can't stand the pretty faced actors that Hollywood uses. In John Carpenters thing, we had regular looking dudes. Ah well I'll probably watch it any way, maybe I'm wrong and Hollywood didn't create a popcorn flick that you can forget about right after watching it.

Johnny_Rock

And that is the big problem I have with it. Every film now has to look like the cast of iCarly / Victorious.

that does sum up how I feel about the actors in this as well.

so we have the same title as carpenter's movie and young american-ish characters. this is marketing to achieve the best chances for ticket sales I guess. do they have confidence in the quality of their project? I don't know.

I heard they are going very light on the CGI though, which helps.

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[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

[QUOTE="m25105"]

Because I'm afraid it's going to suck, already from what I've seen of the pictures, we got a hot fresh out of college American chick and a black guy (no I don't have anything against black guys in the film, I'm just questioning why there is a black guy along with a woman in a camp that's suppose to be Norwegian) in the Norwegian camp. Not to mention how young and fresh faced they all look. Then there is the language issue, did the Norwegians forget they can speak English when they landed at the American camp (if you've seen John Carpenter's The Thing you know what I mean), did the Americans in the prequel speak Norwegian, since everything was written in Norwegian at their camp?

I don't know I'm a HUGE the Thing fan, but I'm afraid of where one film was with middle aged scientists frustrated and bored the other film looks like it has teen bubblegum actors that look perfect in every way.

Now call me an asshat for simply not enjoying the film, but I just can't stand the pretty faced actors that Hollywood uses. In John Carpenters thing, we had regular looking dudes. Ah well I'll probably watch it any way, maybe I'm wrong and Hollywood didn't create a popcorn flick that you can forget about right after watching it.

Mordred19

And that is the big problem I have with it. Every film now has to look like the cast of iCarly / Victorious.

that does sum up how I feel about the actors in this as well.

so we have the same title as carpenter's movie and young american-ish characters. this is marketing to achieve the best chances for ticket sales I guess. do they have confidence in the quality of their project? I don't know.

I heard they are going very light on the CGI though, which helps.

Side note... Love your sig. Limbo was an AWESOME game.

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]TBH, I thought this movie was just a remake/reimagining...not a prequel. ...hmmm...actually more likely to see now

That's what I thought, too.. I think I'll check it out on DVD.
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If it's all CGI then I'll probably hate it. MushroomWig
Yup.. and from the trailers ive seen it looks like the chick is going to be the 'kurt russell' in this film... wtf are you doing Hollywood. (Not Sexist, but the only time ive approved of a female lead was in the aliens franchise and thats probably cause she doesnt act like a chick..and isnt young)
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Just go play the game. It's a much better prequel.

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this is marketing to achieve the best chances for ticket sales I guess. do they have confidence in the quality of their project? I don't know.Mordred19
Quality or not, everything about this movie screams "creatively bankrupt". It looks like they took an established movie and then copied the **** out it except for when they were dumbing it down in the usual predictable ways. From a storytelling point of view, there's absolutely zero reason to make this movie in the first place. That said, early reviews seem to indicate that it isn't horrible. And the early reviews certainly aren't as harsh as I expected them to be, so maybe the movie really isn't that bad. But make no mistake...Carpenter's The Thing had a reason to be made. It was unique, scary as hell, and it's still relevant almost 30 years later. No matter how good this new movie turns out to be, people will have ceased to care about it within 6 months of its release. There appears to be nothing new here, no story that needs to be done, and everything about it screams that it's just another in a long line of forgettable movies that try to cash in on a classic and then make a quick profit before quickly being forgotten. I'll actually watch this movie, but I'm damn sure going to keep my expectations realistic.
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#20 Johnny_Rock
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Just go play the game. It's a much better prequel.

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Is the prequel supposed to be about the swedish scientists?

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[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

And that is the big problem I have with it. Every film now has to look like the cast of iCarly / Victorious.

Johnny_Rock

that does sum up how I feel about the actors in this as well.

so we have the same title as carpenter's movie and young american-ish characters. this is marketing to achieve the best chances for ticket sales I guess. do they have confidence in the quality of their project? I don't know.

I heard they are going very light on the CGI though, which helps.

Side note... Love your sig. Limbo was an AWESOME game.

thanks. adobeartist deserves all the credit.

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Is the prequel supposed to be about the swedish scientists?

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This is a prequel?! *watches trailer and notices Norwegian flag* I'm more interested now.

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#25 Hallenbeck77  Moderator
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Just go play the game. It's a much better prequel.

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Actually, the game was a sequel. But you get the idea.
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Just go play the game. It's a much better prequel.

Hallenbeck77

Actually, the game was a sequel. But you get the idea.

Wouldn't it be a sequel of the prequel since the intention behind the whole thing was to look into the guys who died in the prequel but then led to the location of the original?

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[QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Just go play the game. It's a much better prequel.

THE_DRUGGIE

Actually, the game was a sequel. But you get the idea.

Wouldn't it be a sequel of the prequel since the intention behind the whole thing was to look into the guys who died in the prequel but then led to the location of the original?

You givin' me the double-talk?! :evil: With your fancy words and book learnin'!

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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"] Actually, the game was a sequel. But you get the idea.Hallenbeck77

Wouldn't it be a sequel of the prequel since the intention behind the whole thing was to look into the guys who died in the prequel but then led to the location of the original?

You givin' me the double-talk?! :evil: With your fancy words and book learnin'!

Yes.

Yes I am.

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It looks pretty bad, but I'll be seeing it regardless. :P
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[QUOTE="MrMe1000"]

Is the prequel supposed to be about the swedish scientists?

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"HEY SWEDES!"

"They're not Swedish, Mac, they're Norwegian..."

so does that mean they'll be speaking norwegian or will they magically speak english
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[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

[QUOTE="MrMe1000"]

Is the prequel supposed to be about the swedish scientists?

MrMe1000

"HEY SWEDES!"

"They're not Swedish, Mac, they're Norwegian..."

so does that mean they'll be speaking norwegian or will they magically speak english

Do you really think that for a remake/prequel/whatever of The Thing, that they're actually going to require audiences to READ? Here's the thing...it was a Norwegian station. Do you really think that they made a young/pretty/female/American scientist the main protagonist for reasons relevant to the story? Or do you think that those kinds of decisions were made for the purpose of appealing to American audiences? Here's the problem. The terror that happened in Carpenter's "The Thing" could have been avoided right off the bat if the Norwegian survivors could speak English. So let's make some assumptions. Firstly, I'd probably have difficulty getting assigned to an Antarctic research station in 1982. Mostly because I don't have any skills or knowledge. So I think it's fair to assume that everyone there at that research station DOES have some kind of important skill or knowledge (even if it's not evident in the movie). So...if you're going to bring in experts from a different country where they speak a different language, wouldn't you at least send someone who is able to communicate with the people there. They're obviously Americanizing the **** out of that Norwegian research team, and it sure as **** isn't because that makes logical sense from a storytelling standpoint. Secondly, I've seen a few clips and trailers. Not ONCE did I hear ANYONE say anything that wasn't in English. So no. Aside from probably a few exchanges spoken in whatever-language-Norwegian-people-speak, it's QUITE obvious that the vast majority of the people at there are going to be speaking English.
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I find it sorta a bleak prequel tho i haven't seen it, everyone who saw the thing should be able to get the gist of whats gonna happen. If they give this movie a happy ending then the movie has failed.

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I find it sorta a bleak prequel tho i haven't seen it, everyone who saw the thing should be able to get the gist of whats gonna happen. If they give this movie a happy ending then the movie has failed.

Santesyu
See...that's the thing. We've already seen The Thing, so we pretty much know that everyone dies. If you're gonna do a prequel of that, at least have things play out differently than in the original. Problem is...from the few reviews I've read, they copy John Carpenter's movie so much that it plays out as a bad remake almost as much as it plays out as a prequel. Of all the movies that needed prequels, THIS wasn't it. Hell, a strong case could be made that NO movie needs a prequel (because if it did, they would have started the story there rather than later). But The Thing? Completely pointless and unnecessary. The whole point of finding the Norwegian station at all only served one purpose: to foreshadow the kinds of **** that was about to go down at the American station. In terms of story, there is literally NO REASON for this movie to exist. In order to stay faithful to the original movie, it'd pretty much have to be pretty much a repeat of the original movie in the first place. And from the few reviews I've read, that consistently seems to be one of the flaws which is stated. However, I sort of WOULD be on board with an Aliens prequel that takes place between Alien and Aliens. I think THAT could work (even though still being entirely unnecessary). Only reason it could work is because it could depict something new that has NEVER properly been seen during the entire series: a massive Alien outbreak. Sequel needed? Absolutely not. Could we imagine what must have happened given what we saw in Aliens? Absolutely. But at least the prequel would have a reason to exist. It'd potentially show us something that we've NEVER properly seen.
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Nobody can beat him. The 80's are gone. We are trapped in an era not 10% as cool as what were there before.

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Speaking of The Thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8faq5amdK30&feature=mh_lolz&list=FLxKzZcQdYnTBsIce-Is3JUg

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no matter how hard it sucks,it's not going to ruin carpenter's the thing or something,i don't undestand why everyone is over reactive towards it,i bet this movies would've got some good reviews if carpernter's the thing never had been made for the whole idea of how the alien works in the thing is fantastic and pretty much enough to guarantee it's success as a sci-fi/horror flick.

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Secondly, I've seen a few clips and trailers. Not ONCE did I hear ANYONE say anything that wasn't in English. So no. Aside from probably a few exchanges spoken in whatever-language-Norwegian-people-speak, it's QUITE obvious that the vast majority of the people at there are going to be speaking English. MrGeezer

This is true. Despite being set in a Norwegian camp full of Norwegian people, there are five or so American characters that the film focuses on, and most of the important Norwegians have a surprisingly good grasp of the English language.

Anyway, I just came back from a preview screening, and...sigh, subtlety it dead. :(

If you've seen the original, you'd know what to expect. The set-up is almost exactly the same, some of the scenes are very similar...but it has a facepalm-inducing modern Hollywood vibe that really got on my nerves.

For starters, the monsters looked sweet. They've got some great designs, and the concept of an unstable shape-shifting beast is always going to be sweet - but outside of a couple of scenes, it's mostly CGI. It's pretty sad when a 30 year old film had more convincing aliens than a modern blockbuster film.

Secondly, the tension was gone. The 1982 film was a textbook example of how to build up tension - even at the end we still had little idea of who was a Thing and when. In this one...if anyone is suspected to be a Thing, you usually find out within ten minutes whether or not they're human. Actually, worse than that - we had Vaughn from Community translating all of the really basic science-talk for the audience, and heaps of other characters speaking in Exposition-ese.

The original was creepy because the audience never knew who to trust, and a lot of the action happened off-screen (until the fantastic moments where the Things were revealed). In this one, it's all jump-scares, double-bluffs and explosions for the entire film - cheap thrills, at the expense of a genuinely chilling moment.

The references, while kind of cool, are completely forced. You could tell the directors were like "okay, there was an axe -here- in the original, so we need some plot device to get it there", so...it just didn't gel.

Anyway, I'm rambling. I thought it was entertaining...ish. I mean, it's more of the same, just not done anywhere near as well as the 1982 film.

And yes, I realise that 'the original' was a 1951 film - I've seen that one too, but I still think of the Carpenter one as 'the original'.